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28 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Thanks, just submitted a few myself. 

Was it super hard and time consuming? 

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Breakthrough data from Minnesota:

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Massachusetts numbers from a week ago:

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Massachusetts health officials on Tuesday reported nearly 4,000 new breakthrough cases over the past week, and 32 more deaths.

Also Tuesday, the death toll from COVID in Massachusetts topped 18,000.

In the last week, 3,919 new breakthrough cases -- infections in people who have been vaccinated -- were reported, with 61 more vaccinated people hospitalized, Massachusetts Department of Public Health officials said Tuesday. That brings the totals to 27,777 cases and 194 deaths in people with breakthrough infections.

 4K cases in the vaccinated in a single week.

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Michigan breakthrough cases as of 9/16:

25K cases

1,043 hospitalizations

330 deaths

 

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Illinois:

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15 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Michigan breakthrough cases as of 9/16:

25K cases

1,043 hospitalizations

330 deaths

 

hey dip$***, stop posting nominal figures. they don't mean anything without context. edit: and also stop posting numbers without sources.

in Michigan 5.1 million are fully vaccinated. this translates to less than 7 per 100k deaths. 

there's been 1,300 total deaths since June 1, so let's just be generous and say all 330 deaths amongst vaccinated are from this timeframe and 970 deaths are among the unvaccinated. even with this very generous back of the napkin analysis, which ignores that the high risk population overlaps with the vaccinated population quite a bit, you're almost 3x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. 

deeper analysis that actually takes into account vaccination rates among different age groups and the ages of the deaths reported shows that you're at least 7x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. 

so again, you don't have to keep showing how stupid you are. we know man. we know.

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6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

hey dip$***, stop posting nominal figures. they don't mean anything without context. edit: and also stop posting numbers without sources.

in Michigan 5.1 million are fully vaccinated. this translates to less than 7 per 100k deaths. 

there's been 1,300 total deaths since June 1, so let's just be generous and say all 330 deaths amongst vaccinated are from this timeframe and 970 deaths are among the unvaccinated. even with this very generous back of the napkin analysis, which ignores that the high risk population overlaps with the vaccinated population quite a bit, you're almost 3x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. 

deeper analysis that actually takes into account vaccination rates among different age groups and the ages of the deaths reported shows that you're at least 7x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. 

so again, you don't have to keep showing how stupid you are. we know man. we know.

You typed all of that you already KNOW it will make no difference to it.

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5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

hey dip$***, stop posting nominal figures. they don't mean anything without context. edit: and also stop posting numbers without sources.

in Michigan 5.1 million are fully vaccinated. this translates to less than 7 per 100k deaths. 

there's been 1,300 total deaths since June 1, so let's just be generous and say all 330 deaths amongst vaccinated are from this timeframe and 970 deaths are among the unvaccinated. even with this very generous back of the napkin analysis, which ignores that the high risk population overlaps with the vaccinated population quite a bit, you're almost 3x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. 

deeper analysis that actually takes into account vaccination rates among different age groups and the ages of the deaths reported shows that you're at least 7x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. 

so again, you don't have to keep showing how stupid you are. we know man. we know.

Raw data is still valuable. These numbers come directly from those state's health departments. The sheer number of breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is pretty eye-opening. Just proves that everyone should still be careful, regardless of vaccination status. 

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Just now, Kz! said:

Raw data is still valuable. These numbers come directly from those state's health departments. The sheer number of breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is pretty eye-opening. Just proves that everyone should still be careful, regardless of vaccination status. 

Very true.  Be safe out there, everyone.  I would put the # of masks you should wear at a MINIMUM of two.

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12 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Illinois:

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https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-breakthrough

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because you're a troll posting incomplete information and specifically cut it off at the percentages that make you look like a total moron.

 

total deaths to COVID in Illinois are 25k. 9k since Jan 1. so during the "vaccine era" there have been about 20x more deaths among unvaccinated than vaccinated.

if we generously shorten that timeframe to when most high risk individuals (who still make up most of the deaths) who are getting vaccinated DID get vaccinated, we're looking at about 5,000 deaths among the unvaccinated vs 432 among vaccinated with comparable populations in each (around when the state was 50/50, and the high risk population was about 70% vaccinated) 

YOU ARE STILL A MORON. can't wait for you to invoke riot kitchen like it means something :roll:

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Raw data is still valuable. These numbers come directly from those state's health departments. The sheer number of breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is pretty eye-opening. Just proves that everyone should still be careful, regardless of vaccination status. 

No, it isn't. Not without context. You fall for the base rate fallacy because you want to. 

You are a moron with a stupid narrative looking for any evidence to support it and ignoring or rejecting any evidence that does not.

Congrats, you've attained peak useful idiot status.

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Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-breakthrough

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because you're a troll posting incomplete information and specifically cut it off at the percentages that make you look like a total moron.

 

total deaths to COVID in Illinois are 25k. 9k since Jan 1. so during the "vaccine era" there have been about 20x more deaths among unvaccinated than vaccinated.

if we generously shorten that timeframe to when most high risk individuals (who still make up most of the deaths) who are getting vaccinated DID get vaccinated, we're looking at about 5,000 deaths among the unvaccinated vs 432 among vaccinated with comparable populations in each (around when the state was 50/50, and the high risk population was about 70% vaccinated) 

YOU ARE STILL A MORON. can't wait for you to invoke riot kitchen like it means something :roll:

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Busted

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1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-breakthrough

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because you're a troll posting incomplete information and specifically cut it off at the percentages that make you look like a total moron.

 

total deaths to COVID in Illinois are 25k. 9k since Jan 1. so during the "vaccine era" there have been about 20x more deaths among unvaccinated than vaccinated.

if we generously shorten that timeframe to when most high risk individuals (who still make up most of the deaths) who are getting vaccinated DID get vaccinated, we're looking at about 5,000 deaths among the unvaccinated vs 432 among vaccinated with comparable populations in each (around when the state was 50/50, and the high risk population was about 70% vaccinated) 

YOU ARE STILL A MORON. can't wait for you to invoke riot kitchen like it means something :roll:

Relax, Mr. Kitchen. No one is saying the vaccines aren't amazing. I'm just posting raw data to help keep my vaccinated cvon friends safe. Tens of thousands of vaccinated individuals are being infected on a daily basis and many thousands have died. Wash your hands. 

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1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Relax, Mr. Kitchen. No one is saying the vaccines aren't amazing. I'm just posting raw data to help keep my vaccinated cvon friends safe. Tens of thousands of vaccinated individuals are being infected on a daily basis and many thousands have died. Wash your hands. 

Serious question.  Are you personally cropping graphics to keep yourself from looking like an idiot or did those come from Prison Planet/Catturd?

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5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

No, it isn't. Not without context. You fall for the base rate fallacy because you want to. 

You are a moron with a stupid narrative looking for any evidence to support it and ignoring or rejecting any evidence that does not.

Congrats, you've attained peak useful idiot status.

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree that raw data isn't important when discussing this subject. 

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7 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Very true.  Be safe out there, everyone.  I would put the # of masks you should wear at a MINIMUM of two.

Three if you're attending a Hanson concert.

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I was at a super spreader event Sunday - lots of disappointed maskless folks at the Link :sad: 

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6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Serious question.  Are you personally cropping graphics to keep yourself from looking like an idiot or did those come from Prison Planet/Catturd?

Similar data out of Washington state. Almost all had symptoms, around 3 thousand were hospitalized. wow wow wow

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Just now, Kz! said:

Similar data out of Washington state. Almost all had symptoms, around 3 thousand were hospitalized. wow wow wow

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So it was Catturd? :lol:

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4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I was at a super spreader event Sunday - lots of disappointed maskless folks at the Link :sad: 

Darwin award candidate right here, folks!

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

So it was Catturd? :lol:

Oregon:

Over 21,000 breakthrough cases

915 hospitalizations

172 deaths

Source: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/Documents/DataReports/Breakthrough-Case-Report.pdf

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11 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I was at a super spreader event Sunday - lots of disappointed maskless folks at the Link :sad: 

What was happening and why were the folks dissapointed ??  Not familiar with that venue.

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