joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Buffalo was sixth in rushing last season Sixth in rushing and the best defense….poor QB Atlanta was 31st in rushing last year.. Their RBs ran for 1360 yards ... the Bills RBs ran for 1343 yards. Context matters. Not really a hard concept to grasp. People who don't use the stats within context are lazy. Stats themselves don't tell the whole story. An example, Singletary, much like Sanders,has a big run or two to make his average look good. But any Bills fan will tell you, their run game was very ineffective as far as scoring or running out the clock. They relied on Allen to do everything. 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Buffalo was sixth in rushing last season Sixth in rushing and the best defense….poor QB Atlanta was 31st in rushing last year.. Their RBs ran for 1360 yards ... the Bills RBs ran for 1343 yards. Context matters. Not really a hard concept to grasp. People who don't use the stats within context are lazy. Stats themselves don't tell the whole story. An example, Singletary, much like Sanders,has a big run or two to make his average look good. But any Bills fan will tell you, their run game was very ineffective as far as scoring or running out the clock. They relied on Allen to do everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Buffalo was sixth in rushing last season Sixth in rushing and the best defense….poor QB Atlanta was 31st in rushing last year.. Their RBs ran for 1360 yards ... the Bills RBs ran for 1343 yards. Context matters. Not really a hard concept to grasp. People who don't use the stats within context are lazy. Stats themselves don't tell the whole story. An example, Singletary, much like Sanders,has a big run or two to make his average look good. But any Bills fan will tell you, their run game was very ineffective as far as scoring or running out the clock. They relied on Allen to do everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 40 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Another think to note even without Hurts we would still be top 13 rush team pretty far drop sure from #1 but you take away Allen from the Bills and they are a bottom 3 rushing team. Surprised their would be 2 teams worse. Wonder if you took both Allen and the WR rushing stats away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 24 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Really? Again, ask Amy Bills fan about their rushing (non Allen ) you'll get the real story. Still doesn’t explain the dominant defense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 Those dang running QBs just kill a team though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Still doesn’t explain the dominant defense Again... we both agree Buffalo could be the best team in the league. My point remains... their running game ( without the QB ) is an issue. My explanation... they have a good defense and a great QB... very good pass blocking OL, and very good receiving targets. Those reasons are why they are a top team in the league.. . If they can hand the ball off to RBs and have any success , they can easily be the best team in the league. You follow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 Me... if the Sixers had a bench they could win a championship Ham: well then tell me why Joel Embiid is so great. Me= WTF Your typical conversation on this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 Me = the Chargers moved to LA for money reasons Ham: No Mas are you saying LA has a better zoo than San Diego? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Those dang running QBs justill a team though Allen isn't a good enough passer for you? Hurts in your opinion is anywhere close to Allen as a passer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stine 4,070 Posted June 29 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Those dang running QBs just kill a team though A good Running QB helps any team. Problem is when they get hurt. Then the teams suffers. RG1, Newton, Cunningham, Vick, Culpepper and others were great runners! Problem is when they got hurt.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 4 hours ago, joemas6 said: Again... we both agree Buffalo could be the best team in the league. My point remains... their running game ( without the QB ) is an issue. My explanation... they have a good defense and a great QB... very good pass blocking OL, and very good receiving targets. Those reasons are why they are a top team in the league.. . If they can hand the ball off to RBs and have any success , they can easily be the best team in the league. You follow I do follow. I see your point. Believe they are the best anyway. Hard for anybody to have everything in today’s NFL. A point more fans need to realize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 Our Oline had some struggles pass blocking but thrived when we unleashed them run blocking. Well that and just experience…along with Lane getting his head straight. Or some fans believe our opponents just got so easy it made our Oline look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 4 hours ago, joemas6 said: Me = the Chargers moved to LA for money reasons Ham: No Mas are you saying LA has a better zoo than San Diego? San Diego Zoo is incredible. Polar Bear ate somebody the week after I was there many years ago. Well attacked them…not completely ate them hahaha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 Allen threw for 2,074 yards with 10 TDs with 12 interceptions his first season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: I do follow. I see your point. Believe they are the best anyway. Hard for anybody to have everything in today’s NFL. A point more fans need to realize. I agree in thinking they are the best team... not disagreeing that it's hard for a team to have everything. My point was a simple one... has nothing to do with anything else except the fact that Buffalo struggled to run the ball with their RBs. Just that one and only point I was making the whole time. Sometimes people actually say what they mean about just one thing without implying anything else. " I'm simply implying that at present Col. Markinson is dead" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: I do follow. I see your point. Believe they are the best anyway. Hard for anybody to have everything in today’s NFL. A point more fans need to realize. Correct... that's why the 2017 Eagles had the best roster and dominated from start to finish ....despite Mills and Darby. Because there are so many aspects to a football roster.... still it's legit to point out the Buffalo running game and the Eagles CBs in 2017. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 Jalen Ramsey, L.A. Rams Xavien Howard, Miami Dolphins J.C. Jackson, L.A. Chargers Marshon Lattimore, New Orleans Saints Trevon Diggs, Dallas Cowboys Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns Kenny Moore II, Indianapolis Colts Tre’Davious White, Buffalo Bills A.J. Terrell, Atlanta Falcons Marlon Humphrey, Baltimore Ravens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 The listing by CBS of Corners. Many Eags fans aren’t happy with being snubbed. I’m not sure I can really complain though. Those ten guys are really good corners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cunninghamtheman 9,273 Posted June 29 20 minutes ago, joemas6 said: I know….kid really has no idea 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 29 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: The listing by CBS of Corners. Many Eags fans aren’t happy with being snubbed. I’m not sure I can really complain though. Those ten guys are really good corners. Why are we snubbed? Those guys are better than anyone we have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjkline1958 6,753 Posted June 29 https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/29/philadelphia-eagles-news-espn-pff-nfl-roster-rankings-jalen-hurts-x-factor/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjkline1958 6,753 Posted June 29 Peter King ranks us 4th in the NFC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemas6 1,751 Posted June 30 2 hours ago, mjkline1958 said: Peter King ranks us 4th in the NFC I didn't look...but I'm thinking Tampa, Green Bay and LA are the 3 ahead of us... which seems right with all these offseason moves. I believe he stated that's with Hurts playing a C- level. Which I agree. We should take the next step and win a playoff game this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stine 4,070 Posted June 30 OK - So Let's assume Hurts throws for 3600 yards with 22 TD's and 7 INT's. Is this good enough for you to keep him with a new contract? Because if he accomplishes all of this, he would have won you cash betting the over in Las Vegas for TDs and yards.... My point is, no one is expecting him to light up the field with his arm. This is with a superb supporting cast....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
