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I can fully see whatshisface Colts backup QB playing good enough for Wentz to not get the starting job back, at that point where would his career even go?

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1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

I can fully see whatshisface Colts backup QB playing good enough for Wentz to not get the starting job back, at that point where would his career even go?

That may be a stretch, Eason has a cannon arm but his accuracy is spotty apart from one season and he lost his first college starting job to Jake Fromm. Ehlinger is more accurate but has a noodle arm.

If they're in contention they could trade next year's first for someone though 😬

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Wentz is injury prone. No way he plays the required % of snaps for a 1st rounder. It'll be a 2nd.

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7 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

We're not free of worry. I worry that we'll spend the next 10 years looking for a QB. Maybe Hurts is here for a decade, but maybe we're doomed to toil like we did in the years after Randall. 

As for Carson's situation right now, I have no idea what's going on. I barely even knew that camp had started. I just happened to look at the date and thought "this is around the time that camps start... I wonder when ours starts". That was about 15 hours after camp started. 

Pre-Season will be here and our first one will be 2 minutes from ending and I'll think... 'I wonder when pre-season starts..." lol

After last season I was worried we’d be stuck with Wentz and that contract for at least another 4 years. I’m not worried about who their quarterback will be though. If Hurts bombs they’re likely be in a spot to draft a guy. Most of the Wentz apologists were saying he even needed more talent around him so why obsess over the next quarterback anyways when the Eagles need more talent? If anything I’m more concerned over how poorly Roseman has done drafting than I am worrying about who the quarterback will be for the next ten years. 

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1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

I can fully see whatshisface Colts backup QB playing good enough for Wentz to not get the starting job back, at that point where would his career even go?

I care nothing about his career after this season, but that clearly would end the Eagles chances of that first round pick. The Wentzamaniacs might all be on suicide watch though. 

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17 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

That pretty much nails it. I'm just relieved he's no longer our problem. I never really expected him to net us a 1st, and for a long time, it's just felt like the same never-ending depressing story with him. It's at least better to be watching this trainwreck from the sidelines for a change.

Overall I’m glad he’s gone, because it seems like his cult followers are completely brainwashed when it comes to that guy. I mean we had McNabb here and everyone calls him a choke, but the dude has more playoff wins than anyone else to wear an Eagles uniform and took us to five NFC Championship games wile their demigod Wentz hasn’t even won one playoff game. He’s basically had one good season that he didn’t even finish and these guys are crying over this guy after having one of the worst seasons a quarterback had in modern day football. Worrying about who the next quarterback will be over the next ten years instead of being glad it’s not this dude anymore. The worst part of all this is that we likely won’t get that first, but in the end that could also be a good thing as it could keep Roseman from making the mistake of trading all of his assets away for Watson. 

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1 hour ago, PoconoDon said:

Wentz is injury prone. No way he plays the required % of snaps for a 1st rounder. It'll be a 2nd.

Agreed but the trade still tilts the Eagles way now that he’s injured again and the Birds are out from under his cap hit.

And the Bears are looking to move Nick Foles. How much irony would there be in that?

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16 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Agreed but the trade still tilts the Eagles way now that he’s injured again and the Birds are out from under his cap hit.

And the Bears are looking to move Nick Foles. How much irony would there be in that?

It's at the point that both of their careers are over 

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12 hours ago, Moderator6 said:

 

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That's British sign language for the middle finger.

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1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

I care nothing about his career after this season, but that clearly would end the Eagles chances of that first round pick. The Wentzamaniacs might all be on suicide watch though. 

As much as you seem to obsess about Wentz, pardon my skepticism about that statement.

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1 hour ago, eglz1 said:

As much as you seem to obsess about Wentz, pardon my skepticism about that statement.

Naw I’m good. Once he fails to get the Eagles that first I’m pretty much done with guy. 

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1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/colts-considering-surgery-qb-carson-200714611.html
 

Feels like more news is coming out about this foot and it doesn’t sound as good for the Eagles as hoped. Sounds like he may need surgery. 

2nd round pick it is close this stupid thread down. 

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13 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

2nd round pick it is close this stupid thread down. 

Still I gotta give credit to Howie for getting 4 picks in the first two rounds in the draft next year. Gives the Eagles a lot of options as long as he doesn’t screw up and give all those options to the Texans. On a side note I already feel vindicated even if this wasn’t directly related to covid. Close it down. I was right. 😂

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4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

The worst part of all this is that we likely won’t get that first, but in the end that could also be a good thing as it could keep Roseman from making the mistake of trading all of his assets away for Watson. 

If Howie only has one brain cell left I hope it directs him to keep all picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3, it's a unique opportunity to plug all holes that with good coaching should make the Eagles contenders the remainder of the decade.

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10 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

2nd round pick it is close this stupid thread down. 

I'll gladly take the second, Eagles still came out on top in the trade.

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3 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

If Howie only has one brain cell left I hope it directs him to keep all picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3, it's a unique opportunity to plug all holes that with good coaching should make the Eagles contenders the remainder of the decade.

Eagles seem to be (at least according to the media) quarterback thirsty. After all this is the "quarterback factory” isn’t it? Personally I’d rather they keep their own picks and draft a guy and other talent rather than use them to get a guy on an older roster that lacks young talent. Best case scenario if Hurts pans out and that’s one less pick used on that position. 

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5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Eagles seem to be (at least according to the media) quarterback thirsty. After all this is the "quarterback factory” isn’t it? Personally I’d rather they keep their own picks and draft a guy 

Right, if they feel Hurts isn't the guy then draft one without trading up, one of the top three (Rattler, Howell and Willis) should be available when they pick.  

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2 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Right, if they feel Hurts isn't the guy then draft one without trading up, one of the top three (Rattler, Howell and Willis) should be available when they pick.  

Start fresh with a new guy and not a guy who already wants to walk away from his team and is covered in bad baggage. 

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Obviously this sucks but two firsts and two seconds is still a really nice haul of picks. This also goes to show why Wentz wasn't worth crap, because in addition to being the worst starting QB in the league last season he simply can't stay healthy. Hopefully this at least results in the Colts not being as good as though this year and the pick being a mid 2nd rather than late.

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19 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Obviously this sucks but two firsts and two seconds is still a really nice haul of picks. This also goes to show why Wentz wasn't worth crap, because in addition to being the worst starting QB in the league last season he simply can't stay healthy. Hopefully this at least results in the Colts not being as good as though this year and the pick being a mid 2nd rather than late.

It’s not completely written in stone it’s over (though I highly doubt we get that first too) for the first, but this does make it clear the Eagles are better off without Wentz. Carson did them a favor and bailed Howie out by crying his way out of town. 

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I will always wonder if people just love to worry about the worst case scenario happening. He isn't even on our team and people are reacting like the bad outcome has already taken place. 

 

I'm curious what the actual injury is. I've been dealing with sesamoiditis  for a couple years. I guess it's similar to turf toe, but the pain comes on through use and goes away through rest. It can be extremely painful to run when it flares up, but adrenaline can mask that during a play. After the play is over, you will probably limp as you try to adjust where you put pressure on the big toe. In my experience, it hasn't really healed on its own very fast. So a professional athlete should get the surgery rather than hope for natural healing during a season where you will continue to aggravate the area. 

Again, we don't know what he actually has, but if they recommend the surgery, he should do it and wait for it to heal before playing on it. I'm not going to worry about the pick we get until we get the pick. 

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45 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I will always wonder if people just love to worry about the worst case scenario happening. He isn't even on our team and people are reacting like the bad outcome has already taken place. 

 

I'm curious what the actual injury is. I've been dealing with sesamoiditis  for a couple years. I guess it's similar to turf toe, but the pain comes on through use and goes away through rest. It can be extremely painful to run when it flares up, but adrenaline can mask that during a play. After the play is over, you will probably limp as you try to adjust where you put pressure on the big toe. In my experience, it hasn't really healed on its own very fast. So a professional athlete should get the surgery rather than hope for natural healing during a season where you will continue to aggravate the area. 

Again, we don't know what he actually has, but if they recommend the surgery, he should do it and wait for it to heal before playing on it. I'm not going to worry about the pick we get until we get the pick. 

Lol why would you "worry” about a pick you have? That makes no sense whatsoever. With that being the case this topic began about the new NFL, the Colts lack of vaccinations, Wentz possibly not being vaccinated, and how this all could possibly impact the Eagles selection. It’s a topic of discussion not a spot of worry. Really the "worry” didn’t kick in till Wentz got hurt (again), but many have just accepted the Eagles are more likely to get a 2nd than a first. There’s nothing to "worry” about here, because the Eagles a guaranteed a 1st or 2nd round pick.

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According to Brandon Pirna, here is Wentz's foot specialist:

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