We were giving this guy props, but the gameplan against the Cowboys was on some year one Gannon stuff. That was brutal 

41 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

We were giving this guy props, but the gameplan against the Cowboys was on some year one Gannon stuff. That was brutal 

We're not getting enough pressures and sacks for the 40+ times teams throw against us.  Safe to say a DE will be the 1st round pick in April with Barnett gone and BG undoubtedly retired.  We have 2 good outside corners but the entire middle of the field is weak for us.  We don't have any cover lbs and our slot corners are whoever is healthy enough.  Howie has got to invest some 4th and 5th round picks in cover LBs and another slot cb

Just now, weko said:

We're not getting enough pressures and sacks for the 40+ times teams throw against us.  Safe to say a DE will be the 1st round pick in April with Barnett gone and BG undoubtedly retired.  We have 2 good outside corners but the entire middle of the field is weak for us.  We don't have any cover lbs and our slot corners are whoever is healthy enough.  Howie has got to invest some 4th and 5th round picks in cover LBs and another slot cb

I really think we need to address the secondary with higher picks. It’s been way too long. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

I really think we need to address the secondary with higher picks. It’s been way too long. 

agreed You get outside corners in the first 2 rounds so maybe with one of our two 2s this draft

3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

We were giving this guy props, but the gameplan against the Cowboys was on some year one Gannon stuff. That was brutal 

Gave up 6 points in the second half. Just saying.

 

Also got the sacks and stops when we had to have em.

6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

We were giving this guy props, but the gameplan against the Cowboys was on some year one Gannon stuff. That was brutal 

What was the game plan? Allow Lamb to have his way with us? Don’t identify the crucial match ups that will give us an advantage? 

On another day Dallas easily win the game. They had a lot of drops and 2 TDs that were inches away from counting. 
 

the defence is poor, only the game against Miami did we look good 

Allowing any receiver nearly 200 yards means something isn’t right 

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

and 2 TDs that were inches away from counting

You realize our defense is the reason they were short right? Well the first one anyone. The 2 pt one is because dummy Dak reached to early when he still had room. 

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

Allowing any receiver nearly 200 yards means something isn’t right 

He had zero TD catches. Bend don't break. I don't care if we give up 700 yards as long as at the end of the game we come out on top. 

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

Allowing any receiver nearly 200 yards means something isn’t right 

I think it probably means we're running out UDFA's and rookie Safeties at slot corner against one of the top 10 receivers in the league.

Every team ever has the odd squeaker, the defense will be fine once Byard settles in properly and they get Roby back as a slot.

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

What was the game plan? Allow Lamb to have his way with us? Don’t identify the crucial match ups that will give us an advantage? 

I will give him somewhat of an excuse. Once again everyone he’s put in the slot has either gotten hurt or were t very good. He’s now stuck to using overmatched safeties out there. Hopefully Roby gets healthy enough to play very soon because this is a real problem. Byard so far hasn’t quite looked like the veteran defender we hoped he would be. I wonder if they’re using him incorrectly. Instead of being more of an in the box safety they’re asking him to be mostly a deep cover guy. So many one on one opportunities given to Lamb this last game just made no sense. Meanwhile the Cowboys pretty much bracket covered Brown all game. Desai got some late game heroics to go with some Dallas screwups to help win this one in the end. 

2 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

He had zero TD catches. Bend don't break. I don't care if we give up 700 yards as long as at the end of the game we come out on top. 

Bud you’re the same guy who created this thread with Gannon who right? Bend don’t break is straight out of Gannon’s playbook and you know it. 😂

11 hours ago, weko said:

We're not getting enough pressures and sacks for the 40+ times teams throw against us.  Safe to say a DE will be the 1st round pick in April with Barnett gone and BG undoubtedly retired.  We have 2 good outside corners but the entire middle of the field is weak for us.  We don't have any cover lbs and our slot corners are whoever is healthy enough.  Howie has got to invest some 4th and 5th round picks in cover LBs and another slot cb

DE in the 1st? I don't see that. They need to compile some CBs and Safeties with relatively high picks. I wish they cared about LBs. Because ours are so overmatched, all the time. 

9 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

Gave up 6 points in the second half. Just saying.

 

Also got the sacks and stops when we had to have em.

We gave up almost 375 yds and 3 TDs (almost 4) to Dak Prescott. Reducing the outlook to just the pts given up in the 2nd half is a bit myopic. The trend to being very vulnerable through the air is not an encouraging one.

This is an unpopular opinion, but Desai is overrated at the moment. He did a heck of a job against the Dolphins but the Eagles look pretty average on D at the moment and are middle of the pack. Next 5 weeks are hard and I think we will see how good he really is.

The guy who was never properly appreciated here was Schwartz. He did a good job with limited talent and no draft investment. The one year he had decent talent he produced a top 5 D. Even with the Super Bowl he held teams to an average of 17 points per game in the playoffs. Currently running the number 1 D in Cleveland. Wish he was still with us.

Juan Castillo was a great D coordinator.

On 11/6/2023 at 11:24 PM, ManchesterEagle said:

This is an unpopular opinion, but Desai is overrated at the moment. He did a heck of a job against the Dolphins but the Eagles look pretty average on D at the moment and are middle of the pack. Next 5 weeks are hard and I think we will see how good he really is.

The guy who was never properly appreciated here was Schwartz. He did a good job with limited talent and no draft investment. The one year he had decent talent he produced a top 5 D. Even with the Super Bowl he held teams to an average of 17 points per game in the playoffs. Currently running the number 1 D in Cleveland. Wish he was still with us.

Yeah at the time i wasn't happy with him, but looking back it was clear that he had one hand tied behind his back. With the offence misfiring it made things seem worse.

 

At least he blitzed

On 11/6/2023 at 11:24 PM, ManchesterEagle said:

This is an unpopular opinion, but Desai is overrated at the moment. He did a heck of a job against the Dolphins but the Eagles look pretty average on D at the moment and are middle of the pack. Next 5 weeks are hard and I think we will see how good he really is.

The guy who was never properly appreciated here was Schwartz. He did a good job with limited talent and no draft investment. The one year he had decent talent he produced a top 5 D. Even with the Super Bowl he held teams to an average of 17 points per game in the playoffs. Currently running the number 1 D in Cleveland. Wish he was still with us.

Hey hey Manchester Eagle is firing his Jim Schwartz appreciation marathon back up. I thought it was over when Jim left 3 years ago but hot damn if he hasn't found a way to shoe horn some more posts in.

I'll never forget Manchester's steadfast defence of Jim and his willingness to post how underappreciated Jim was (but not by Manchestereagle, no sir) in every single Monday morning game discussion. Good to see it back.

On Desai, I think he's done a stellar job with what he has on the back end, he's trying to win with a 4 man rush and a secondary that can't maintain coverage for crap, you could put any DC in history in charge of our defense and they couldn't make players like Scott, Goodrich, Brown and Ricks into NFL caliber slot corners right now.

We're not 8-1 as a bad team.

The man has been forced to deploy udfa and rookie dbs out there. The cupboard is bare. Hope they start getting guys back post bye or it will likely be more of the same.

13 minutes ago, judunno said:

The man has been forced to deploy udfa and rookie dbs out there. The cupboard is bare. Hope they start getting guys back post bye or it will likely be more of the same.

Whilst thats not helped i dont think its the main cause. To me its a combination of that and the scheme. 

 

20 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

Whilst thats not helped i dont think its the main cause. To me its a combination of that and the scheme. 

 

Hard to properly run any scheme when the rooks and new pieces are out of position making countless mistakes. For the most part they're preventing the big plays as designed. The mental breakdowns and teams exposing guys who really shouldn't be out there is why they can't get off the field.

On 11/8/2023 at 6:51 AM, judunno said:

The man has been forced to deploy udfa and rookie dbs out there. The cupboard is bare. Hope they start getting guys back post bye or it will likely be more of the same.

Still for the life of me don’t understand why so many of those prospect corners made the roster. They have been scrambling trying to fill the void all season. 

36 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Still for the life of me don’t understand why so many of those prospect corners made the roster. They have been scrambling trying to fill the void all season. 

They just look lost out there. Guess they're getting some valuable experience but Im sure it's not ideal 

On 11/8/2023 at 7:05 AM, rrfierce said:

Whilst thats not helped i dont think its the main cause. To me its a combination of that and the scheme. 

 

Hard to run a scheme when nobody seems to know what the hell they're doing. My biggest gripe is why the hell they aren't matching up personell groupings at times.