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1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

95% of the country understand the issue Dave.  The only ones that don't get it are you idiot wokesters.

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On 12/9/2023 at 10:50 AM, Arthur Jackson said:

This whole post of yours was just this...

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I currently live in Bel Air. Just saying…

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

I currently live in Bel Air. Just saying…

yeah right like that's a real place :rolleyes:

 

 

She cites their work then discusses their findings using some of their words.  Academics don’t really get butt-hurt about that although it is kind of lame.  Conversely, some guy at a law firm copied one of my wife’s articles word-for-word and didn’t credit her at all.  That’s what academics do get pissed about.  

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19 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

She cites their work then discusses their findings using some of their words.  Academics don’t really get butt-hurt about that although it is kind of lame.  Conversely, some guy at a law firm copied one of my wife’s articles word-for-word and didn’t credit her at all.  That’s what academics do get pissed about.  

What are you babbling about Dave?  This woman was appointed as president of Harvard.  Are you saying that the standard we should judge her behavior by is whether the typical academic would get pissed about it?

Harvard’s board: We unanimously stand in support of President Gay

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Embattled Harvard President Claudine Gay has gained the unanimous support of the university’s board, Harvard’s highest governing body said in a statement Tuesday, giving Gay significant cover to remain in her position after a tumultuous week in which many donors and politicians have called for her ouster.

"As members of the Harvard Corporation, we today reaffirm our support for President Gay’s continued leadership of Harvard University,” the statement from the Harvard Corporation said. "Our extensive deliberations affirm our confidence that President Gay is the right leader to help our community heal and to address the very serious societal issues we are facing.”

The Harvard Corporation, which includes the school’s board of overseers, announced the decision Tuesday morning following the conclusion of the board’s meeting on Monday. The Harvard Crimson, the university’s student newspaper, was first to report the news Tuesday morning.

"In this tumultuous and difficult time, we unanimously stand in support of President Gay,” the Corporation added in its statement.

But strong criticism of Gay remains, and the board’s statement of support may not be the final word on the matter. Gay has been on the hot seat ever since her widely criticized testimony on antisemitism at American universities before a House committee a week ago. Since then, UPenn President Liz Magill, who testified alongside Gay, resigned, and some high-profile donors and politicians called for Gay’s ouster.

Still, an outpouring of support for Gay Monday from hundreds of faculty and alumni could have tipped the board’s decision in her favor.

More than 700 Harvard faculty members have signed a petition backing Gay. According to the 2023 Harvard annual report, the university has 1,068 tenured faculty plus 403 tenure-track faculty.

The Executive Committee of Harvard University’s Alumni Association on Monday announced its unreserved support for Gay. And over 800 Black alumni have announced their "unequivocal support” for Gay and her efforts to "build a stronger, more inclusive community at our alma matter while balancing the critical principals of free thought and free speech.”

"I’m glad the Corporation made their own decision to keep Claudine Gay rather than outsourcing it to others,” said Harvard economic policy professor Jason Furman, who served as a top economic adviser to President Obama, in a statement Tuesday. "I also hope they are pressing Claudine Gay and schools to continue the process of fixing our mistakes and moving forward in a better way.”

A disastrous hearing
At the consequential December 5 hearing before a House committee, Gay struggled to answer questions about whether calls for genocide against Jews would violate Harvard’s code of conduct. She and other university presidents failed to explicitly say calls for genocide of Jewish people constituted bullying and harassment on campus. The exchanges went viral and prompted a flurry of business leaders, donors and politicians to demand Gay, Magill and MIT President Sally Kornbluth step down.

The three presidents soon after attempted to clarify their testimony, publicly saying that they were giving academic answers to questions of safety, and they believe calls for genocide would violate school rules.

MIT’s board quickly said it supported Kornbluth. Gay apologized last week in an interview with the Crimson. Magill, who resigned along with Penn board chair Scott Bok, still has not apologized.

In its statement, the Corporation said Gay should have been more firm in her response to the House committee’s questioning.

"So many people have suffered tremendous damage and pain because of Hamas’s brutal terrorist attack, and the University’s initial statement should have been an immediate, direct, and unequivocal condemnation,” it said in a statement. "Calls for genocide are despicable and contrary to fundamental human values. President Gay has apologized for how she handled her congressional testimony and has committed to redoubling the University’s fight against antisemitism.”

Harvard, like many other schools across the country, has encountered difficulty combating a rise in antisemitic incidents on campus following the terror attacks by Hamas on October 7 and Israel’s subsequent strikes on Gaza. Harvard is also among 14 colleges under investigation by the Department of Education since the attacks "for discrimination involving shared ancestry” an umbrella term that covers both Islamophobia and antisemitism.

New York Democratic Rep. Daniel Goldman told CNN Tuesday he’s disappointed by the decision and argued Harvard is failing to protect its students facing threats of violence.

"If they are unable to enforce their code of conduct, then they either need to get a new code of conduct or they need to get a new president,” Goldman said. "I hope there is a significant change at Harvard if Dr. Gay is going to stay.”

Critics seize on Gay’s testimony

Still, Gay faces a number of critics calling for her ouster.

"One down. Two to go,” Republican Rep. Elise Stefanik of New York wrote on X, after Magill stepped down Saturday, with "two” being a reference to Gay and Kornbluth. "In the case of @Harvard, President Gay was asked by me 17x whether calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard’s code of conduct. She spoke her truth 17x. And the world heard.”

Stefanik, along with a group of 71 bipartisan lawmakers, sent a letter to the governing boards of Harvard, Penn, and MIT last week urging them to remove their university leaders.

A conservative nonprofit plans to send four mobile billboard trucks to Harvard President Claudine Gay’s home on Tuesday and Wednesday, the group’s president told CNN. One of the trucks will feature a picture of the Harvard leader with the message: "Claudine Gay: the best friend Hamas ever had.” Another simply calls for Gay to resign.

Billionaire hedge fund CEO Bill Ackman, a Harvard graduate, has been among Gay’s most vocal critics. In an letter to Harvard’s board on Sunday Ackman wrote that Gay, who was inaugurated in July, "has done more damage to the reputation of Harvard University than any individual in our nearly 500-year history.”

Ackman has also questioned Gay’s academic integrity and values, posting on social media content that implies Gay, who is the first Black woman to lead Harvard, was hired to fulfill diversity metrics. In his letter, he attacked Harvard’s diversity, equity and inclusion practices as a "major contributing source of discriminatory practices on campus.”

Ackman alleged Gay plagiarized elements of her academic writings, an accusation Gay denied.

"I stand by the integrity of my scholarship,” Gay responded to Ackman in a statement. "Throughout my career, I have worked to ensure my scholarship adheres to the highest academic standards.”

The Harvard Corporation Tuesday said it ordered an independent review of Gay’s writings, which revealed inadequate citations in a few instances but "no violation of Harvard’s standards for research misconduct.”

"President Gay is proactively requesting four corrections in two articles to insert citations and quotation marks that were omitted from the original publications,” the Corporation said.

 

 

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

 

OMG Really?

Hey, did you guys hear that Harvard's board stands in solidarity with their Gay president? 

Yes, wokeness will kill the Republic. It is the real danger.

Be afraid.

It isn't as if one of the major candidates for office, once tried to destroy the Constitution, and has promised to do so again, if elected.

38 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Yes, wokeness will kill the Republic. It is the real danger.

Be afraid.

It isn't as if one of the major candidates for office, once tried to destroy the Constitution, and has promised to do so again, if elected.

Both are highly problematic though one is more urgently so. 

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Both are highly problematic though one is more urgently so. 

Agreed plus there will be a subset of voters that are repelled by the far left and swing to Trump, a third party, or disgusted enough to stay home.  I know it seems foreign to a lot of us but it has happened before and can happen again, especially in rural areas.  There are plenty of people who will view the threats posed by a second Trump term differently than many of us view it and will be swung by their perception of the extreme left, especially in light of the blurred line of support for Palestine/Hamas, whether perceived or real.  

34 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Both are highly problematic though one is more urgently so. 

I'd favour the overt evil over the insidious one, tho I could do without either

23 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Agreed plus there will be a subset of voters that are repelled by the far left and swing to Trump, a third party, or disgusted enough to stay home.  I know it seems foreign to a lot of us but it has happened before and can happen again, especially in rural areas.  There are plenty of people who will view the threats posed by a second Trump term differently than many of us view it and will be swung by their perception of the extreme left, especially in light of the blurred line of support for Palestine/Hamas, whether perceived or real.  

Agreed

I've decided to attend the faculty holiday party as Zwarte Piet

43 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I've decided to attend the faculty holiday party as Zwarte Piet

Dressed as?

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On 12/11/2023 at 12:13 AM, Dave Moss said:

She cites their work then discusses their findings using some of their words.  Academics don’t really get butt-hurt about that although it is kind of lame.  Conversely, some guy at a law firm copied one of my wife’s articles word-for-word and didn’t credit her at all.  That’s what academics do get pissed about.  

Dr. Carol Swain disagrees and is not happy her work was plagiarized

 

The libruls are defending these people the same way MAGA folk defend Trump.

 

Disgusting.

Politics always seems to trump morality.

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Billionaire megadonor suspends donations to Harvard

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Billionaire Len Blavatnik is joining the list of frustrated Harvard donors closing their checkbooks to the university.

Blavatnik’s family foundation has suspended donations to Harvard in the wake of President Claudine Gay’s disastrous testimony before Congress, a person familiar with the matter confirmed to CNN. Blavatnik is holding back donations to Harvard until the university addresses antisemitism on campus, the source said.

The Harvard Business School graduate, whose fortune is estimated at $32 billion by Forbes, has a history of generous giving to the Ivy League school as well as to support Jewish causes. Blavatnik’s family foundation has donated at least $270 million to Harvard, the source said. Born in Ukraine and Raised in Russia, Blavatnik made his early fortune on investments in Russian oil companies, according to Forbes.

News of Blavatnik’s decision to pause giving to Harvard was first reported by Bloomberg. Harvard did not comment on the news. Blavatnik’s foundation declined to comment.

Harvard and other universities have faced a backlash from some donors following their response to the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks on Israel. Later that month, more than 1,600 Harvard alumni vowed to withhold donations until stronger action was taken to fight antisemitism on campus.

That backlash grew in intensity after Gay and the presidents of the University of Pennsylvania and MIT struggled to answer questions from lawmakers at a hearing earlier this month about whether calls for the genocide of Jews violates university rules. Facing calls for her firing, Gay apologized for her testimony.

Blavatnik’s decision deals a significant blow to Harvard. In 2018, he promised to give Harvard Medical School a record-setting $200 million.

Blavatnik, who was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 2017, has a history of giving money to universities as well as politicians. He reportedly donated money to both Pete Buttigieg’s presidential campaign as the Trump inaugural committee.

The news comes as Harvard continues to face pressure over its handling of antisemitism and as Gay has come under fire for plagiarism. Harvard said on Thursday that Gay will issue corrections to her 1997 PhD. dissertation to address "inadequate citation.”

Last week, Harvard disclosed figures that showed early applications fell by 17% to four-year lows.

 

 

2 minutes ago, paco said:

He reportedly donated money to both Pete Buttigieg’s presidential campaign as the Trump inaugural committee.

That's an interesting combination

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