February 12, 20241 yr If they can net a 2nd in the upcoming draft and a conditional 4th in the 2025 draft (could move up to a 2nd based on games played, sacks, etc.) I’d do it. Reddick, while an awesome player, is getting old, and we’re not likely to improve enough to win a superbowl next year. Take the draft compensation and move on.
February 12, 20241 yr The only thing that would bother me about trading Reddick is that it'll leave another hole on a defense with too many holes as is. Unless they trade him for another quality player that fills a different need, it just creates more need. As for the player, I like Reddick and certainly wouldn't mind having him back. But when thinking of what he will bring to the team over the course of the next couple of years, I just don't see it as being worth spending big money on him. He's basically a one-trick pony.
February 12, 20241 yr Surely they can’t think Smith is ready to take over for Reddick yet right? I also can’t see the compensation being good enough to take on a 20mil dead cap hit can it? I ready someplace where the Eagles could have 9 new defensive starters. My goodness that much changeover does not bode well for Sirianni next season.
February 12, 20241 yr 40 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Surely they can’t think Smith is ready to take over for Reddick yet right? I also can’t see the compensation being good enough to take on a 20mil dead cap hit can it? I ready someplace where the Eagles could have 9 new defensive starters. My goodness that much changeover does not bode well for Sirianni next season. Dead cap is a little different since he’s on his last year. You’d configure the team cap similarly regardless of his $20m dead cap or his $22m cap hit on the team.
February 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: Exercising Smiths 5th year option would cost a shade over $15million fully guaranteed, that sounds cheap (ish) for a reliable ~90 catch 1k yard #1A receiver but as a comparison AJ hasn't had a cap hit that high his 2 years here. They might exercise Smith's 5th year to protect their position but they won't go into 2025 with him on that deal, he will have to be paid an extension. The problem with keeping Smith on a 5th year option is that all the money will count towards that year's cap. You can't prorate it over time.
February 12, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said: Dead cap is a little different since he’s on his last year. You’d configure the team cap similarly regardless of his $20m dead cap or his $22m cap hit on the team. Best case scenario cap-wise is a post 6/1 trade as it results in the following: -$5.8M dead cap hit in 2024. - It frees up $16M in 2024 cap space, but realistically $14.8M of that amount should be set aside to carryover to 2025 to absorb the dead money charge the trade will cause.
February 12, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, time2rock said: They'll have the 5th year option at their disposal if they want to wait another year. But Dickerson on the other hand is going to need a new deal - he is also entering the final year of his rookie contract and no 5th year option available since he was a 2nd rd pick. The problem is that the 5th year option for Devonta would count about $18M against the cap. You can't prorate it. You can extend Devonta, Dickerson and Reddick, but you'd have to do a post 6/1 cut on Josh Sweat b/c you can't have play in 2024 and risk the $21M dead cap hit in 2025 (which can't be reduced) if he doesn't resign. Here's a way to do it. Internal moves: Resign these FAs w/ contract projections (void years not included): -Mann - 3 years/$2M Signing Bonus/$3.125 fully g'teed -Lovato - 3 years/$1M SB/$2.12M full g'teed -BG - 1 year/$2M SB/$3.5M fully g'teed Extend these FA's w/ contract projections (void years not included) -Elliott - 4 yrs/$8M SB/$16M fully g'teed -Dickerson - 5 yrs/$30M SB/$55M fully g'teed -Smith - 4 yrs/$28M SB/$46M fully g'teed -Reddick - 4 yrs/$30M SB/$52M fully g'teed (they may restructure and just convert his salary into SB. If that happens, that means they're resigning Sweat) Cut -Byard -Maddox Cut with 6/1 designation Bradberry - If Cox isn't retiring then cut him with the the 6/1 designation and simply wait till after 6/1 to officially cut or trade Bradberry. Sweat - This assumes Reddick is extended. If not, then Sweat gets an extension. Retire -Kelce -Cox (if he's not retiring then cut him w/ a 6/1 designation) Both will submit their papers after 6/1 so their dead cap hits could be spread over 2 years. The downside of these moves is that you really aren't going to be able to sign any big name FA's in 2024. Why not? Even though these moves will leave them with about $30M in available cap space in 2024 (after taking into account signing the draft class and setting aside $5M to practice squad guys) they'll need to carryover much of the cap space to 2025 b/c these moves only leave them with $1.1M in cap space in 2025 (actually it would be negative b/c they'll need space to sign draft picks). The only way to free up 2025 cap space is to extend or restructure AJ Brown b/c all other players would be getting paid minimum salaries.
February 12, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, erformc said: The problem with keeping Smith on a 5th year option is that all the money will count towards that year's cap. You can't prorate it over time. And he’ll cost even more in a year.
February 12, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said: And he’ll cost even more in a year. OTC are calculating his 5th year at a shade over $15million but that seems light to my eye (the calculation is an average of WR salaries from 3rd to 20th for the position) I'd guess nearer $17mill.
February 12, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said: And he’ll cost even more in a year. Not what I said. I said that having him play on the 5th year option would result in his entire salary (around $18M) count against the cap in that season. They don't have near enough cap space (nor can they make enough cap space through other restructurings) to do that. There's a reason that the Eagles have never, and will never so long as Howie is there, have a 1st round pick play the season on a 5th year option.
February 12, 20241 yr If we can get decent compensation for him, I'd be happy to see him find another team. He's played well for us, but he has long stretches where he completely disappears. He'll be on the wrong side of 30 soon, and I can't see us extending him after next season anyway. May as well get a draft pick for him.
February 12, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Kz! said: If we can get decent compensation for him, I'd be happy to see him find another team. He's played well for us, but he has long stretches where he completely disappears. He'll be on the wrong side of 30 soon, and I can't see us extending him after next season anyway. May as well get a draft pick for him. I can certainly see that line of thought. If, however, if you let Reddick go you almost have to sign Josh Sweat an extension. There are 2 reasons for this: 1. Nolan Smith is the only edge rusher under contract after 2024.. 2. If you don't extend Sweat and he walks after this season, he would count as $21M dead money against the 2025 cap, which is a figure that can't be reduced. Given that, here's my question. Realistically Sweat is going to be looking for a deal that pays him about $25M at signing and guarantees him about $50-55M. Do you pay him that or do you shall out a bit more for Reddick?
February 12, 20241 yr 38 minutes ago, erformc said: Not what I said. I said that having him play on the 5th year option would result in his entire salary (around $18M) count against the cap in that season. They don't have near enough cap space (nor can they make enough cap space through other restructurings) to do that. There's a reason that the Eagles have never, and will never so long as Howie is there, have a 1st round pick play the season on a 5th year option. I didn’t say you said that. It’s what I said.
February 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, erformc said: I can certainly see that line of thought. If, however, if you let Reddick go you almost have to sign Josh Sweat an extension. There are 2 reasons for this: 1. Nolan Smith is the only edge rusher under contract after 2024.. 2. If you don't extend Sweat and he walks after this season, he would count as $21M dead money against the 2025 cap, which is a figure that can't be reduced. Given that, here's my question. Realistically Sweat is going to be looking for a deal that pays him about $25M at signing and guarantees him about $50-55M. Do you pay him that or do you shall out a bit more for Reddick? Yeah, I'd be OK with extending Sweat for the simple fact that he's a few years younger. Regardless, I expect getting an edge rusher to be a priority in this year's draft.
February 12, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Kz! said: Yeah, I'd be OK with extending Sweat for the simple fact that he's a few years younger. Regardless, I expect getting an edge rusher to be a priority in this year's draft. Few years younger but his knees aren't.
February 12, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, erformc said: I can certainly see that line of thought. If, however, if you let Reddick go you almost have to sign Josh Sweat an extension. There are 2 reasons for this: 1. Nolan Smith is the only edge rusher under contract after 2024.. 2. If you don't extend Sweat and he walks after this season, he would count as $21M dead money against the 2025 cap, which is a figure that can't be reduced. Given that, here's my question. Realistically Sweat is going to be looking for a deal that pays him about $25M at signing and guarantees him about $50-55M. Do you pay him that or do you shall out a bit more for Reddick? You don't throw money at Sweat when he doesn't have the numbers or the health to back it up. If they are in a situation where they have to go out and get all new ones in a year then so be it.
February 12, 20241 yr Sweat had a bad year. People say that Reddick disappeared but sweat was much worse. i do fear for the team next season and I think we have to consider that we’re not going to be contenders and in a relative rebuild. Howie really needs to nail this draft which is worrying because he’s had more misses than hits recently
February 12, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, GoEagles614 said: Dead cap is a little different since he’s on his last year. You’d configure the team cap similarly regardless of his $20m dead cap or his $22m cap hit on the team. Still feels like a big number. Just feels like Howie would be taking somewhat of a Gap Year in regards using the cap to build up the roster. Not the best time for that to happen for Sirianni in the final year of his contract.
February 12, 20241 yr No way you extend Sweat. He's a candidate to hit the road. Hopefully Nolan will light it up in the 3-4 on the edge playing next to JC who should wreck at end.
February 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: You don't throw money at Sweat when he doesn't have the numbers or the health to back it up. If they are in a situation where they have to go out and get all new ones in a year then so be it. He absolutely has the health to back it up. I am getting sick of reading these strange myths. Just because you are afraid he may get hurt, doesn't mean he has been struggling with injuries. As for his production, it was down just like every single player on the defense. During his late season sackless spell, there were a couple intentional groundings he forced which are exactly the same result. I'm not worried about Sweat.
February 12, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, brkmsn said: He absolutely has the health to back it up. I am getting sick of reading these strange myths. Just because you are afraid he may get hurt, doesn't mean he has been struggling with injuries. As for his production, it was down just like every single player on the defense. During his late season sackless spell, there were a couple intentional groundings he forced which are exactly the same result. I'm not worried about Sweat. His knee is on borrowed time.
February 13, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Surely they can’t think Smith is ready to take over for Reddick yet right? I also can’t see the compensation being good enough to take on a 20mil dead cap hit can it? I ready someplace where the Eagles could have 9 new defensive starters. My goodness that much changeover does not bode well for Sirianni next season. A 29 year old Reddick isn't ready to take over for 2022 Reddick either.
February 13, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, eagle45 said: A 29 year old Reddick isn't ready to take over for 2022 Reddick either. He’s still a better option than Smith.
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