I'll start with this one:

46 minutes ago, Procus said:

I'll start with this one:

So he wants to join the Seahawks?  

Seriously, this is the kind of player I hope we would have interest in.  Only 24 and just entering his prime.  I don't want a 32 year old Jordan Poyer or any other players at that stage of their career.  We had great success when tapping into the free agent market with players in their prime at the position ... McLeod and Jenkins were both excellent additions.  Hope to repeat that this year.

John Runyan Jr. could solidify the middle of our oline for the next 10 years. Do it Howie.

2 minutes ago, CheesesteakNBeer said:

John Runyan Jr. could solidify the middle of our oline for the next 10 years. Do it Howie.

I don't want to sign somebody for his name.  His production has been good - but certainly not pro bowl level.  And he regressed in 2023. 

It seemed like the Eagles had interest in Chinn early last season after he fell out of favor on the Panthers, but his injury before the trade deadline seemed to stop something from happening. There seems to be no hype about his availability in any NFL news which could mean he'd be an affordable FA. I'd probably prefer him at his current market value over CJGJ at his current market value.

18 minutes ago, Procus said:

I don't want to sign somebody for his name.  His production has been good - but certainly not pro bowl level.  And he regressed in 2023. 

2 words.  

Stoutland. University.

1 hour ago, Procus said:

I don't want to sign somebody for his name.  His production has been good - but certainly not pro bowl level.  And he regressed in 2023. 

He dealt with multiple injuries last year and split time with another player.. he also played some of his best ball at the end of the season.. unless he commands a high contact I’m all for getting him In here learning under stout and see what happens.

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

It seemed like the Eagles had interest in Chinn early last season after he fell out of favor on the Panthers, but his injury before the trade deadline seemed to stop something from happening. There seems to be no hype about his availability in any NFL news which could mean he'd be an affordable FA. I'd probably prefer him at his current market value over CJGJ at his current market value.

Seen a few sources claiming they had interest and also that we were gonna draft him but ended up drafting Hurts instead. I like Chinn and think he could fill a role for sure.

11 hours ago, brkmsn said:

It seemed like the Eagles had interest in Chinn early last season after he fell out of favor on the Panthers, but his injury before the trade deadline seemed to stop something from happening. There seems to be no hype about his availability in any NFL news which could mean he'd be an affordable FA. I'd probably prefer him at his current market value over CJGJ at his current market value.

We don’t have any real idea of what either of their current market values are.  

49 minutes ago, time2rock said:

We don’t have any real idea of what either of their current market values are.  

CJGJ's market value based on last season with a much lower cap was $7-8M / season. Chinn was on a rookie deal, fell out of favor with his team and saw his snaps continually decrease on a team that sucked. His market value is that of a player that will likely sign a prove it deal. If it's anything beyond a 1-year deal, the average will be in the $3-4M/year range with little guaranteed. In his situation it would make no sense to sign anything beyond 1 year. 

 You're correct that we don't know what the actual numbers will be, but we do have a pretty good idea of what to expect.

16 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

CJGJ's market value based on last season with a much lower cap was $7-8M / season. Chinn was on a rookie deal, fell out of favor with his team and saw his snaps continually decrease on a team that sucked. His market value is that of a player that will likely sign a prove it deal. If it's anything beyond a 1-year deal, the average will be in the $3-4M/year range with little guaranteed. In his situation it would make no sense to sign anything beyond 1 year. 

 You're correct that we don't know what the actual numbers will be, but we do have a pretty good idea of what to expect.

So if we go what we think is going to be (what is likely to be) the cheaper route (for 2024) and Chinn plays well then we are looking at either needing to pay him market value (which would then likely be similar to what CJGJ will command or move on and the revolving door continues at the position.  I'd be more interested in signing a proven player in his prime (or nearing it) "current market value" this year (similar to the moves we've made in the past with signing McLeod or Jenkins) and have some continuity there.  Just have to identify the right player (not saying it should be CJGJ ... perhaps it is someone like Xavier McKinney or someone else).  

24 minutes ago, time2rock said:

So if we go what we think is going to be (what is likely to be) the cheaper route (for 2024) and Chinn plays well then we are looking at either needing to pay him market value (which would then likely be similar to what CJGJ will command or move on and the revolving door continues at the position.  I'd be more interested in signing a proven player in his prime (or nearing it) "current market value" this year (similar to the moves we've made in the past with signing McLeod or Jenkins) and have some continuity there.  Just have to identify the right player (not saying it should be CJGJ ... perhaps it is someone like Xavier McKinney or someone else).  

I feel like Blankenship is set at 1 safety position. Had we kept Byard, he was solid as the other safety. Now, is "solid" worth $13M? Absolutely not. So we released him which opened up a need at that position. Chinn is nearing his prime, is coming off a rookie deal, but doesn't have the leverage to command a big payday. Now, just because he's unlikely to sign more than a 1-year deal does not mean the Eagles can't extend him later if they like what they see.

The problem with FAs like McKinney is that he will get a lot of interest and the team that signs him will have to pay more than his market value. If you are going to make somebody that hasn't played in your system the top paid player at his position, that's a huge risk and it limits what you can do at other areas on the team. We have players like Dickerson and Smith that need extensions soon and still have big question marks at LB, CB, OG, RB and DL, WR depth. 

My suggestion doesn't deviate from the way the Eagles traditionally build the roster. 

18 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I feel like Blankenship is set at 1 safety position. Had we kept Byard, he was solid as the other safety. Now, is "solid" worth $13M? Absolutely not. So we released him which opened up a need at that position. Chinn is nearing his prime, is coming off a rookie deal, but doesn't have the leverage to command a big payday. Now, just because he's unlikely to sign more than a 1-year deal does not mean the Eagles can't extend him later if they like what they see.

The problem with FAs like McKinney is that he will get a lot of interest and the team that signs him will have to pay more than his market value. If you are going to make somebody that hasn't played in your system the top paid player at his position, that's a huge risk and it limits what you can do at other areas on the team. We have players like Dickerson and Smith that need extensions soon and still have big question marks at LB, CB, OG, RB and DL, WR depth. 

My suggestion doesn't deviate from the way the Eagles traditionally build the roster. 

Neither McLeod nor Jenkins were the top players at their position in their free agency classes (Byrd was the year we signed Jenkins, I can't recall ATM who it was the year we signed McLeod).  Both of those moves worked out great for us.  Signing a similar type player would not be deviating from the way the way we traditionally build the roster as obviously we've done that in the past as just pointed out.  

52 minutes ago, Procus said:

For the right price I'd be interested but this would be a luxury acquisition regardless 

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Is Eskin ever right? I wouldn't be opposed to a 1 year prove it deal. Doubt that's what he wants. Honestly thought Swift would still be here.

5 hours ago, Portyansky said:

Is Eskin ever right? I wouldn't be opposed to a 1 year prove it deal. Doubt that's what he wants. Honestly thought Swift would still be here.

I'm as tired of rotating RBs every year as much as I am safeties and LB.  Hoping we just spend a 2nd on a really good prospect like Corum who we'd be able to control for the next 4 years on a cheaper rookie contract and give us some continuity there.  Then round out the DC with a lower tier inexpensive FA plus some UDFAs.

10 hours ago, time2rock said:

Neither McLeod nor Jenkins were the top players at their position in their free agency classes (Byrd was the year we signed Jenkins, I can't recall ATM who it was the year we signed McLeod).  Both of those moves worked out great for us.  Signing a similar type player would not be deviating from the way the way we traditionally build the roster as obviously we've done that in the past as just pointed out.  

True. But we were able to do that when we didn't have a franchise QB contract on the books.

Regarding Chinn, the Eagles had interest in drafting him in 2020. They were high on him. After day 1 of the 2020 draft they supposedly swayed from that direction and chose Hurts instead. Then last year, the Eagles were at least in talks with Carolina about acquiring him before his injury made him unavailable for several weeks. So, there has been real interest by the Eagles in Chinn as a player. He's only 26 years old and they can get him now without draft capital and likely for a very affordable price --- even if that's only for 1 season on a prove-it deal. 

Chinn kind of fits that mold you are describing. He's not the top FA safety available, but they may (based on their interest) see him as a fit in their defensive plans. The Eagles loved how Jenkins could be used in a hybrid LB role as well as play safety. Chinn can do that too. If we're paying attention, the Eagles have an unnatural love for hybrid S/LB players. They used Jenkins moderately in that role. They drafted Nate Gerry to convert him from college S to NFL LB. They signed Kyzir White (same thing) a couple years ago and N. Morrow (same thing) last season.  

IDK, to me this seems much more likely than some big FA splash signing or the signing of some player hovering around the age of 30 fresh off a cap related release. 

22 hours ago, NJWolverEagle11 said:

For the right price I'd be interested but this would be a luxury acquisition regardless 

luxury? they have one playable RB signed. 

I think the Eagles will be in on McKinney but will see if they get priced out, kinda like they did with Marcus Williams 2 years ago.  Justin Simmons and CJGJ will be strong targets as well. One of those 3 guys will be in Philly soon...and I'm calling that a lock.  The may also double-dip at the S position...if so, I can see the 2nd guy being someone like Chinn.  

I can take or leave Barkley....would depend on the contract, but as for the player, I still think he can produce well enough for at least another year or 2.

I'd be good with bringing in Jon Runyan Jr.  I imagine G will be lower on the FA priority list if they feel Steen will be ready.  If they do sign a G like Runyan, that likely means they don't have faith in Steen at RG.

Ultimately, I hope we come out of FA with a S, LB and slot WR...all 3 of decent quality that will be notable additions.  

21 hours ago, time2rock said:

I'm as tired of rotating RBs every year as much as I am safeties and LB.  Hoping we just spend a 2nd on a really good prospect like Corum who we'd be able to control for the next 4 years on a cheaper rookie contract and give us some continuity there.  Then round out the DC with a lower tier inexpensive FA plus some UDFAs.

I disagree with this.  The Eagles offense worked very well with a RB by committee approach.  The key is to have different running styles for each RB.  Who can forget how well this worked in 2017 even after Sproles went down.  And later, remember how strong the Eagles record was when Jordan Howard was healthy and came in during the 2nd half to close out game?

49 minutes ago, Procus said:

I disagree with this.  The Eagles offense worked very well with a RB by committee approach.  The key is to have different running styles for each RB.  Who can forget how well this worked in 2017 even after Sproles went down.  And later, remember how strong the Eagles record was when Jordan Howard was healthy and came in during the 2nd half to close out game?

I don't disagree with the RBBC approach in fact I am a proponent of it.  But it would be nice to have the same stable of RBs together for a few years and not have them change every year.

On 3/6/2024 at 3:36 PM, time2rock said:

So he wants to join the Seahawks?  

Or Cardinals. 🤣

14 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

Or Cardinals. 🤣

Or Falcons