March 16, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, eagle45 said: Well I guess 2023 #30 was a wasted first round pick. Frankly, Smith showed nothing last year. People said he should have played more to get experience but he didn't show anything to play more and when he did play he did nothing. Way too early to say he was a wasted pick but he needs to show major improvement this year. The DE coach last year and this year is Jeremiah Washburn and he needs to coach Smith hard. Maybe Clint Hurtt can help.
March 16, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: Definitely because of his age. # 7 is on the wrong side of 30. Can't be on the wrong side of 30 when your not even 30 😜 yes I know he turns 30 soon lol
March 16, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Eagles1960 said: Frankly, Smith showed nothing last year. People said he should have played more to get experience but he didn't show anything to play more and when he did play he did nothing. Way too early to say he was a wasted pick but he needs to show major improvement this year. The DE coach last year and this year is Jeremiah Washburn and he needs to coach Smith hard. Maybe Clint Hurtt can help. Honestly with the flustercluck we had at leadership of the defense … Desai was terrible and then the late season switch to Patricia which was a stupid decision and ended up leading to even worse results … I don’t know how any player can be properly evaluated. Clean slate. Let’s see what they look like now under the leadership of someone who has proven himself for a long time.
March 16, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Can't be on the wrong side of 30 when your not even 30 😜 yes I know he turns 30 soon lol He’s on the wrong side of 29 1/2!
March 16, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, time2rock said: Honestly with the flustercluck we had at leadership of the defense … Desai was terrible and then the late season switch to Patricia which was a stupid decision and ended up leading to even worse results … I don’t know how any player can be properly evaluated. Clean slate. Let’s see what they look like now under the leadership of someone who has proven himself for a long time. This. The Eagles had a brand new DC running the show, and then a washed up 'has been' running it. I still can't believe they went into last season with those two new Coordinators. I'm glad they learned their lesson. Regarding the topic, ehh, meh. I don't think Sweat even touched a QB over the final 5 or 6 games?? He's too streaky, not consistent enough.
March 16, 20241 yr I think the thing that killed the Eagles was that Bills game that went into overtime at home. They won, but seemed to lose a lot of steam thereafter. Defense had way too many snaps up to that game and then toppled over after being on the field the entire game. Kinda was the knock out blow as the dee was bending, but not breaking til that point. Squad seemed depleted after that and then injuries started to mount and that was it. Everything literally dominoed with the injuries, finger pointing and terrible coaching. Everyone should be refreshed next year and am willing to give all those who crashed at the end, a clean slate. Think we see a different story this year, with more depth as well on the edge. They've loaded up, so should be less snaps for each guy. Sweat wasn't the only guy who crashed and lost his way.
March 17, 20241 yr On 3/16/2024 at 8:28 PM, jojodancer said: I think the thing that killed the Eagles was that Bills game that went into overtime at home. They won, but seemed to lose a lot of steam thereafter. Defense had way too many snaps up to that game and then toppled over after being on the field the entire game. Kinda was the knock out blow as the dee was bending, but not breaking til that point. Squad seemed depleted after that and then injuries started to mount and that was it. Everything literally dominoed with the injuries, finger pointing and terrible coaching. Everyone should be refreshed next year and am willing to give all those who crashed at the end, a clean slate. Think we see a different story this year, with more depth as well on the edge. They've loaded up, so should be less snaps for each guy. Sweat wasn't the only guy who crashed and lost his way. Agreed. It's pretty clear Reddick and Sweat benefit from playing less snaps. They played too much the start of the year. Even if Smith wasn't ready, they should have played Barnett more (as soon as he got meaningful snaps in Houston he was good). This year hopefully they won't make the same mistake.
March 18, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said: Agreed. It's pretty clear Reddick and Sweat benefit from playing less snaps. They played too much the start of the year. Even if Smith wasn't ready, they should have played Barnett more (as soon as he got meaningful snaps in Houston he was good). This year hopefully they won't make the same mistake. The entire second unit provided little to nothing on the pass rush end all season. They also provided little assistance to the run stop game. On top of that they were devastated at linebacker and safety with injuries. Keeping that stiff Barnett around wasn’t the answer to fixing their many defensive issues.
March 18, 20241 yr On 3/15/2024 at 1:46 PM, Miami said: Oops. Howie telegraphed the trade and killed the market. Can't get them all right. Would be a real shame to see Reddick leave. Has been terrific, much better than this guy. On 3/15/2024 at 4:17 PM, Lman said: Not a fan of this move. Howie played a poor hand. He should have traded him covertly and fleeced some DE needy team. Wait, what is this notion that signaling a willingness to trade someone somehow kills their value? "Telegraphed the trade." "Should have traded him covertly." These statements make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I mean, if anything, you want all 31 other GMs aware that a player is available so that they can compete with one another to acquire him, thus driving up his value. Now I'm just enjoying the thought of Howie trying to "covertly" trade someone to get maximum value. Howie: *whispering into the phone to another GM* hey, I'm trying to trade Josh Sweat, but I'm not letting anyone else know he's available. What do you think, do we have a deal? Other GM: You're absolutely sure no one else knows he available? Only me? Howie: Yep, only you. Other GM: Hot damn, if that's the case how do three first round picks sound!?
March 18, 20241 yr On 3/16/2024 at 11:54 AM, time2rock said: Honestly with the flustercluck we had at leadership of the defense … Desai was terrible and then the late season switch to Patricia which was a stupid decision and ended up leading to even worse results … I don’t know how any player can be properly evaluated. Clean slate. Let’s see what they look like now under the leadership of someone who has proven himself for a long time. How long do they get with Fangio?
March 19, 20241 yr On 3/18/2024 at 11:41 AM, Mike030270 said: How long do they get with Fangio? 2 seasons?
March 20, 20241 yr On 3/16/2024 at 12:52 PM, Bwestbrook36 said: Can't be on the wrong side of 30 when your not even 30 😜 yes I know he turns 30 soon lol I think his point was that he will be 30 in September and if he were to get the massive extension he is looking for he would be playing at 31, 32, and possibly 33 years old under that depending on how many years he is looking for. With another year or Sweat and Huff and Smith in the mix long term it wouldn't be wise to give him a long term deal. I can see an argument for keeping him for the last year of his deal and then letting him walk but we don't know exactly what is going on behind closed doors. Good on Sweat though for restructuring to stick around and hopefully it motivates him to get a new deal somewhere with a big season in 2024.
March 20, 20241 yr On 3/16/2024 at 1:28 PM, jojodancer said: I think the thing that killed the Eagles was that Bills game that went into overtime at home. They won, but seemed to lose a lot of steam thereafter. Defense had way too many snaps up to that game and then toppled over after being on the field the entire game. Kinda was the knock out blow as the dee was bending, but not breaking til that point. Squad seemed depleted after that and then injuries started to mount and that was it. Everything literally dominoed with the injuries, finger pointing and terrible coaching. Everyone should be refreshed next year and am willing to give all those who crashed at the end, a clean slate. Think we see a different story this year, with more depth as well on the edge. They've loaded up, so should be less snaps for each guy. Sweat wasn't the only guy who crashed and lost his way. Yeah I agree. That is one case of losing by winning. I think if they just outright lost that game things might not have ended up as disappointing.
March 27, 20241 yr On 3/16/2024 at 4:28 PM, jojodancer said: I think the thing that killed the Eagles was that Bills game that went into overtime at home. They won, but seemed to lose a lot of steam thereafter. Defense had way too many snaps up to that game and then toppled over after being on the field the entire game. Kinda was the knock out blow as the dee was bending, but not breaking til that point. Squad seemed depleted after that and then injuries started to mount and that was it. Everything literally dominoed with the injuries, finger pointing and terrible coaching. Everyone should be refreshed next year and am willing to give all those who crashed at the end, a clean slate. Think we see a different story this year, with more depth as well on the edge. They've loaded up, so should be less snaps for each guy. Sweat wasn't the only guy who crashed and lost his way. That next game against SF was the real knockout blow ... a 1-2 punch between that Buffalo game (for all the reasons you stated) and then the complete demolition by the 9ers did them in. After all the chirping SF did leading up to that game and to allow them to come in to our home and completely embarrass us that way, I knew then we were cooked.
April 1, 20241 yr On 3/18/2024 at 12:20 AM, EazyEaglez said: The entire second unit provided little to nothing on the pass rush end all season. They also provided little assistance to the run stop game. On top of that they were devastated at linebacker and safety with injuries. Keeping that stiff Barnett around wasn’t the answer to fixing their many defensive issues. Having a body to give them a breather that wasn't a total liability would have beneficial if not Barnett someone. The good edge rushers were missing their typical extra gear and explosiveness because they were wasted from all of the snaps.
April 1, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, judunno said: Having a body to give them a breather that wasn't a total liability would have beneficial if not Barnett someone. The good edge rushers were missing their typical extra gear and explosiveness because they were wasted from all of the snaps. All of their backups and starters underperformed down the stretch. They had serious depth at DT, but they were just as quiet as the edge rushers. They also started giving Nolan Smith more time once they got rid or Barnett. They still had extra bodies, but it just didn’t amount to much.
April 1, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: All of their backups and starters underperformed down the stretch. They had serious depth at DT, but they were just as quiet as the edge rushers. They also started giving Nolan Smith more time once they got rid or Barnett. They still had extra bodies, but it just didn’t amount to much. They didn't play those extra bodies is the point. Sweat and Reddick played way more snaps than usual in what used to be a nice Eagles DL rotation. They wore down significantly by the end especially when the secondary and LBs couldn't cover a new born baby with that blanket that seems to be at every hospital. If a little more fresh at least they may have had a fighting chance. They looked like they were running in those busted dunes at the Jersey Shore towards the end.
April 1, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, judunno said: They didn't play those extra bodies is the point. Sweat and Reddick played way more snaps than usual in what used to be a nice Eagles DL rotation. They wore down significantly by the end especially when the secondary and LBs couldn't cover a new born baby with that blanket that seems to be at every hospital. If a little more fresh at least they may have had a fighting chance. They looked like they were running in those busted dunes at the Jersey Shore towards the end. I think the plan was to give Reddick and Sweat 70-75% of the defensive snaps, but the assumption was that the defense would make plays and get itself off the field and that the offense would be more efficient as well, giving the defense more rest. So they expected 70-75% to be a lot less than 820+ snaps. I think late in those close games, they wanted their best players out there --- so it was a culmination of everything that didn't go as planned.
April 2, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, brkmsn said: I think the plan was to give Reddick and Sweat 70-75% of the defensive snaps, but the assumption was that the defense would make plays and get itself off the field and that the offense would be more efficient as well, giving the defense more rest. So they expected 70-75% to be a lot less than 820+ snaps. I think late in those close games, they wanted their best players out there --- so it was a culmination of everything that didn't go as planned. Dumb plan that deviated from what made them successful.
April 2, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, judunno said: They didn't play those extra bodies is the point. Sweat and Reddick played way more snaps than usual in what used to be a nice Eagles DL rotation. They wore down significantly by the end especially when the secondary and LBs couldn't cover a new born baby with that blanket that seems to be at every hospital. If a little more fresh at least they may have had a fighting chance. They looked like they were running in those busted dunes at the Jersey Shore towards the end. I don’t think they expected as many injuries as the got between the linebackers and the safeties, and the combination of Desai and Patricia was a disaster. With that being the case Barnett’s time on the field began to significantly drop. I’m not sure why, but I have to believe if they thought he was a viable asset he would have gotten more snaps. That’s not to say Howie and the crew always make the right moves, because that’s clearly not true especially when you consider how this Reddick issue played out.
April 2, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: With that being the case Barnett’s time on the field began to significantly drop. And then went up when he went to Houston, where he played really well.
April 3, 20241 yr 15 hours ago, jsb235 said: And then went up when he went to Houston, where he played really well. Perhaps that had something to do with coaching or maybe he didn’t want to be here to begin with. Maybe those teams didn’t have much film on him. In any case he sucked here,
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