1 hour ago, judunno said:

Yeah... like that will ever happen again. And with a guy like Fields to boot. Plenty of people are complaining about not having Fields on this board. A lot of I rather have Fields pretty much every where Pickett is mentioned.

For the price Fields seems like the better option and maybe the backup never wins it all around here again, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that as early as the Cunningham era the backup quarterback has been an essential part of Eagles football.

25 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

For the price Fields seems like the better option and maybe the backup never wins it all around here again, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that as early as the Cunningham era the backup quarterback has been an essential part of Eagles football.

Fields wasn't an option. His handlers wouldn't let him go to Philly where he has absolutely no shot of seeing the field.  He has a better shot against a 35 year old Russel Wilson. Eagles have a backup locked up for 2 years for essentially a pick swap. I'm fine with that. We'll see how well he does in Moore's offense but I'm going to venture a guess that he'll be better than that ish show in Pittsburgh with Canada. 

5 minutes ago, judunno said:

Fields wasn't an option. His handlers wouldn't let him go to Philly where he has absolutely no shot of seeing the field.  He has a better shot against a 35 year old Russel Wilson. Eagles have a backup locked up for 2 years for essentially a pick swap. I'm fine with that. We'll see how well he does in Moore's offense but I'm going to venture a guess that he'll be better than that ish show in Pittsburgh with Canada. 

Possibly, but in the grand scheme of things the best option will be him getting mop up duty after a blowout or playing in meaningless games at the end of the season after the Eagles have the conference locked up. All in all we are just hoping that a guy who got benched for Mason Rudolf is worth that pick swap that took us out of the third round and into the 4th. 

8 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Possibly, but in the grand scheme of things the best option will be him getting mop up duty after a blowout or playing in meaningless games at the end of the season after the Eagles have the conference locked up. All in all we are just hoping that a guy who got benched for Mason Rudolf is worth that pick swap that took us out of the third round and into the 4th. 

They have plenty of ammunition to get back in the 3rd if they so desire if there's a target there. They have 3 5ths and 2 2nds..

4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Perhaps the name was too big, but basically Fields was an abject failure in Chicago. It was so bad he went for a 6th and when the Bears were shopping him during the combine nobody wanted him. Right now this looks a little bit like Howie got took, but at least he has a controllable asset as a backup quarterback. Most likely Pickett will need to play in some games. Jalen’s injury history has shown in the past he will miss some games so Pickett and all his attitude better be ready to go. McKee I still think he’s very raw and they probably view him that way too. If McKee makes a huge jump this year then perhaps (with some good performances under his belt) Pickett could be flipped for something more later. 

The Bears don’t have the best record when it comes to QBs. I think they just wanted too much if your name was "Howie Roseman” not that I wanted him any way…he fits right where he’s at. I don’t see Pickett being any better than McKee…just more hype surrounding his name and circumstances.

2 hours ago, judunno said:

They have plenty of ammunition to get back in the 3rd if they so desire if there's a target there. They have 3 5ths and 2 2nds..

And if the only had to give up a conditional 6th just imagine how much more ammo they would have. Nevertheless we are stuck with small hands and hoping he can be the guy if needed. At least he’s an asset they have for more than one season even if he might suck.

41 minutes ago, D.WATSfromda757 said:

The Bears don’t have the best record when it comes to QBs. I think they just wanted too much if your name was "Howie Roseman” not that I wanted him any way…he fits right where he’s at. I don’t see Pickett being any better than McKee…just more hype surrounding his name and circumstances.

When it comes to Pickett we are all just hoping he’s good enough to get us a game or two if needed. Minshew all over again. Hopefully he’s at least as good as that. 

4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

And if the only had to give up a conditional 6th just imagine how much more ammo they would have. Nevertheless we are stuck with small hands and hoping he can be the guy if needed. At least he’s an asset they have for more than one season even if he might suck.

He was stuck in a bad offense under Matt Canada so it is hard to get a complete and true evaluation of him (the same with many of our players last year under BJ or under Desai/Patricia on defense).  I don't know what to expect but am open-minded ... waiting to see what he looks like when called upon.  Hoping we get out to some big early leads where they can afford to sit Hurts and showcase him a bit (if he looks good perhaps they can parlay that into a draft pick that is better than what we gave up for him which is the equivalent of a mid 4th).  

Assuming Pickett "accepts" his new role as a backup, this really isn't a bad move.  He's played 2 seasons in a crap offense...we have to remember that the situation players are drafted into go a long way in how successful they turn out to be.  

Pickett has upside and should, at the least, be a little better than Minshew and Mariota.

14 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

Assuming Pickett "accepts" his new role as a backup, this really isn't a bad move.  He's played 2 seasons in a crap offense...we have to remember that the situation players are drafted into go a long way in how successful they turn out to be.  

Pickett has upside and should, at the least, be a little better than Minshew and Mariota.

Him and his wife seem to be happy about going to Philly (grew up an Eagles fan) and being closer to home for what it's worth.

1 hour ago, EaglesAddict said:

Assuming Pickett "accepts" his new role as a backup, this really isn't a bad move.  He's played 2 seasons in a crap offense...we have to remember that the situation players are drafted into go a long way in how successful they turn out to be.  

Pickett has upside and should, at the least, be a little better than Minshew and Mariota.

Despite having a year of starting experience and largely the same supporting cast (ie WR1, WR2, RB and TE) he was worse his second year in Canada's offense. His numbers are awful, man just can't throw TD's, he's not just bad at it he's the worst ever.

Minshew's numbers in his first two seasons beat Picketts by a country mile. Mariota the year he spent as a bridge in Atlanta had a passer rating 7 points higher and a QBR 19 points higher than Pickett had last year in Pittsburgh.

It isn't Matt Canada's fault, it isn't his supporting cast's fault, I mean get real teams don't trade 1st round picks after 2 years if there's even a glimmer of lingering potential, a hint they might break out. Pickett just stinks, and he wasn't worth a 3rd and 2 7ths for a 4th.

8 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Despite having a year of starting experience and largely the same supporting cast (ie WR1, WR2, RB and TE) he was worse his second year in Canada's offense. His numbers are awful, man just can't throw TD's, he's not just bad at it he's the worst ever.

Minshew's numbers in his first two seasons beat Picketts by a country mile. Mariota the year he spent as a bridge in Atlanta had a passer rating 7 points higher and a QBR 19 points higher than Pickett had last year in Pittsburgh.

It isn't Matt Canada's fault, it isn't his supporting cast's fault, I mean get real teams don't trade 1st round picks after 2 years if there's even a glimmer of lingering potential, a hint they might break out. Pickett just stinks, and he wasn't worth a 3rd and 2 7ths for a 4th.

Minshew and Mariota have a larger body of which from which to judge.  We know what they are.  Pickett has had 2 seasons in a discombobulated situation, the 2nd of which his OC was fired and then he had an injury.  The Steelers' offense as a whole, stunk.  Their OL is/was awful.  Play calling stunk.  Their RBs averaged like 2 inches per carry.  This wasn't all due to Pickett.  Could he have been better?  Sure.  But I'm not going to flatly state "Pickett sucks" based off of the last 2 years.  We don't know what he is just yet.  Different people thrive in different situations.  

And we are talking about a backup QB.  We now have a young one who had enough talent to be drafted in Round 1 a couple years ago.  Let's give him a chance.  

19 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

Minshew and Mariota have a larger body of which from which to judge.  We know what they are.  Pickett has had 2 seasons in a discombobulated situation, the 2nd of which his OC was fired and then he had an injury.  The Steelers' offense as a whole, stunk.  Their OL is/was awful.  Play calling stunk.  Their RBs averaged like 2 inches per carry.  This wasn't all due to Pickett.  Could he have been better?  Sure.  But I'm not going to flatly state "Pickett sucks" based off of the last 2 years.  We don't know what he is just yet.  Different people thrive in different situations.  

And we are talking about a backup QB.  We now have a young one who had enough talent to be drafted in Round 1 a couple years ago.  Let's give him a chance.  

It's nothing to do with sample size or even experience in Minshew's first two seasons when he was the back up that stepped up in Jacksonville, he put up 37 TD's in 20 starts to Pickett's 13 in 24 starts.

The Pittsburgh offense will stink if their QB can't throw TD's. Don't even take my word for it, go and look at the Pittsburgh Sports sites, they're pretty much unanimous that no matter Canada's failings Pickett wasn't nearly good enough, he was inaccurate, wouldn't throw over the middle and basically spent 2 seasons frightened to throw the ball more than 7 yards. Over the 2 seasons in Pitt he paced for under 3200 yards and less than 10 TD's with 10 picks for a 17 game season, To put that into perspective Bryce Young threw 11 TD's last year, and Pickett managed to be that bad with 2 receivers with 1000 yard seasons within the last 3 years to throw at (and for the record Najee Harris averaged 111.6 inches per carry last year rather than 2).

And I say again, his reaction to being benched last year stunk, he refused to dress for the final game, tell me again what a guy who doesn't want to be a back up is worth as a back up.

I get that some on this board hate admitting Howie made a bad decision, but he really screwed the pooch on this.

There are a handful of free agents I'd take over Pickett and honestly a late day 3 flyer on someone like Rattler or Hartman would be as effective as a back up as a guy who isn't that good who doesn't want to play back up.

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

It's nothing to do with sample size or even experience in Minshew's first two seasons when he was the back up that stepped up in Jacksonville, he put up 37 TD's in 20 starts to Pickett's 13 in 24 starts.

The Pittsburgh offense will stink if their QB can't throw TD's. Don't even take my word for it, go and look at the Pittsburgh Sports sites, they're pretty much unanimous that no matter Canada's failings Pickett wasn't nearly good enough, he was inaccurate, wouldn't throw over the middle and basically spent 2 seasons frightened to throw the ball more than 7 yards. Over the 2 seasons in Pitt he paced for under 3200 yards and less than 10 TD's with 10 picks for a 17 game season, To put that into perspective Bryce Young threw 11 TD's last year, and Pickett managed to be that bad with 2 receivers with 1000 yard seasons within the last 3 years to throw at (and for the record Najee Harris averaged 111.6 inches per carry last year rather than 2).

And I say again, his reaction to being benched last year stunk, he refused to dress for the final game, tell me again what a guy who doesn't want to be a back up is worth as a back up.

I get that some on this board hate admitting Howie made a bad decision, but he really screwed the pooch on this.

There are a handful of free agents I'd take over Pickett and honestly a late day 3 flyer on someone like Rattler or Hartman would be as effective as a back up as a guy who isn't that good who doesn't want to play back up.

I have no problem calling out Howie's mistakes.  I'm just not as down on this move as you are.  I'm not saying Pickett is gonna light the world on fire if he has to play, nor am I saying "he's good".  I'm just saying I'm going to withold judgement until I see how he looks in our offense.  Howie is rolling the dice on his possible upside.

Jalen Hurts had better get it together. 

Kenny Small Hands Pickett is in town. 

With Sirianni's job on the line, we could see Pickett starting by week 5.

12 hours ago, D.WATSfromda757 said:

The Bears don’t have the best record when it comes to QBs. I think they just wanted too much if your name was "Howie Roseman” not that I wanted him any way…he fits right where he’s at. I don’t see Pickett being any better than McKee…just more hype surrounding his name and circumstances.

Pickett has one advantage over McKee - Pickett has started regular season games and has won some, McKee has not. McKee appears from what we've seen to be a better passer but I'm not sure if/when he'll get to demonstrate that in a game that matters unless Howie is able to trade Pickett.

7 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Kenny P praying before the big game

Throwing an interception

 

Seeing his WR destoyed after pass that may have been a teensy weensie high across the middle

7 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Fake News... that's Trump high-fiving Putin for his unanimous spectacular biggly victory this past weekend.

1 minute ago, judunno said:

Fake News... that's Trump high-fiving Putin for his unanimous spectacular biggly victory this past weekend.

I didn’t know Putin had small hands 

Just now, VeeMak said:

I didn’t know Putin had small hands 

But you knew Trump did.

2 minutes ago, judunno said:

But you knew Trump did.

28 minutes ago, VeeMak said:

Best buds