First thought:

 

He’s got some size at 6’5” 270 lbs.

14 minutes ago, time2rock said:

He’s got some size at 6’5” 270 lbs.

Good to have a guy like that if Goeddert goes down

Meh, dude's career high is like 450 yards and he hasn't done much the last two seasons with the Jets. Calling him an "added weapon for the offense" is quite a stretch. I have no idea how he is as a blocker. Ideally he's competition for the 3rd TE spot with Albert O, Calcatera and a TE they draft.

The TE class in this draft is not rich.  The new signed is a fall-back guy if they don't draft a TE.  Last season, the team used TE and WR for blocking, and we lost the main blocking TE who was the guy pushing behind Hurts on the sneak play.  They may also look at USFAs for the same purpose.

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Meh, dude's career high is like 450 yards and he hasn't done much the last two seasons with the Jets. Calling him an "added weapon for the offense" is quite a stretch. I have no idea how he is as a blocker. Ideally he's competition for the 3rd TE spot with Albert O, Calcatera and a TE they draft.

I don't know this player at all, but the other TEs on our roster did absolutely nothing last year except block on run plays. Look at the receiving stats of the other TEs besides Goedert. When he was out, they still did nothing. 

53 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I don't know this player at all, but the other TEs on our roster did absolutely nothing last year except block on run plays. Look at the receiving stats of the other TEs besides Goedert. When he was out, they still did nothing. 

TE is one position the Eagles simply haven't prioritized since Ertz left. There's this myth that Goedert is elite, but he's often injured and when he misses games, the lack of depth behind him is a real issue. Not sure Uzomah adds anything. 

He had a couple decent games for the bengals but that seems like a 100 years ago.

The eagles are putting together a SOLID TE group.......Goedart, Al OK, Calcaterra and now Uzomah could be a effective combination if the eagles go with 4 TE's and 4 WRs....especially with Kellen Moore as the OC.

Dont mind that signing at all

He’s a depth guy… Nothing more than that. He’s got starting experience so that’s something I suppose.

He cost the Jets $8million a year to be an absolute base level starter after the Patriots overpaid Jonnu Smith a couple of years back and turned the TE market into a joke.

He's coming off a season ending MCL sprain last December, but he's an Eagles backup TE which means he'll not trouble the NFL's stats recorders much if at all and when it comes right down to it he can hardly have less impact than Calcaterra, Stoll and Okwuegbunam (who I'm still not convinced actually exists)

15 hours ago, Penn7980 said:

The TE class in this draft is not rich.  The new signed is a fall-back guy if they don't draft a TE.  Last season, the team used TE and WR for blocking, and we lost the main blocking TE who was the guy pushing behind Hurts on the sneak play.  They may also look at USFAs for the same purpose.

This is exactly right.  Unless the Eagles want feel someone like Ben Sinnott is worth drafting with one of their 2nds, this draft is not a good one for TEs.

The other thing is, when Goedert is out, I don't think Hurts ever looks any other TE's way. Is that because the other TEs "stink" or Hurts just doesn't trust them?  Are they getting open?  Hurts, whether it's by design or it's just him, seems to have a hard time consistently getting anybody other than Brown, Smith and Goedert involved in the passing game.  Hopefully Moore changes that.

1 hour ago, EaglesAddict said:

This is exactly right.  Unless the Eagles want feel someone like Ben Sinnott is worth drafting with one of their 2nds, this draft is not a good one for TEs.

The other thing is, when Goedert is out, I don't think Hurts ever looks any other TE's way. Is that because the other TEs "stink" or Hurts just doesn't trust them?  Are they getting open?  Hurts, whether it's by design or it's just him, seems to have a hard time consistently getting anybody other than Brown, Smith and Goedert involved in the passing game.  Hopefully Moore changes that.

Oh yeah is the problem that the late 6th round, UDFA and 3rd guy perpetually on IR that we used to back up Goedert at TE the last two years aren't good enough? Or is the QB we just handed a $250million contract the problem?

Yeah that's truly a headscratcher, I'm going to need to sit down and do some thinking on that.

15 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Oh yeah is the problem that the late 6th round, UDFA and 3rd guy perpetually on IR that we used to back up Goedert at TE the last two years aren't good enough? Or is the QB we just handed a $250million contract the problem?

Yeah that's truly a headscratcher, I'm going to need to sit down and do some thinking on that.

Yeah, maybe you should sit down and do some thinking on that.

So, in your rationale, you relate skill and capability to draft positioning and contract money, gotchya.

The questions I asked are legit.  Have you ever watched Hurts play QB?  I mean, I'm not sure you have.  He routinely doesn't see or look to other receivers much of the time. Are you saying our $250M QB "surveys the field and finds the open guy" routinely?  And you've watched game tape and saw Calcaterra and/or Stoll be routinely smothered by coverage?  Or perhaps the offensive game plans denied those guys passing route opportunities?

I'm not saying those guys are "great options" and no, I haven't seen game tape to see what they're doing....but because I've observed at various times where a receiver is wide open and Hurts doesn't look his way, my questions are valid. 

2 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

Yeah, maybe you should sit down and do some thinking on that.

So, in your rationale, you relate skill and capability to draft positioning and contract money, gotchya.

The questions I asked are legit.  Have you ever watched Hurts play QB?  I mean, I'm not sure you have.  He routinely doesn't see or look to other receivers much of the time. Are you saying our $250M QB "surveys the field and finds the open guy" routinely?  And you've watched game tape and saw Calcaterra and/or Stoll be routinely smothered by coverage?  Or perhaps the offensive game plans denied those guys passing route opportunities?

I'm not saying those guys are "great options" and no, I haven't seen game tape to see what they're doing....but because I've observed at various times where a receiver is wide open and Hurts doesn't look his way, my questions are valid. 

I mean that'd be just me and every other person on the globe apart from you that does that yes.

By all means do a survey of people around you and ask how many of them think that players drafted in the second round got better scouting reports than those drafted 6th round and UDFA's.  I'm willing to bet that it's a pretty uncontroversial view.

I'm kind of intrigued how you do grade players I'll be honest.

Over the past 2 years Goedert has missed 8 games, over that period Calcaterra and Stoll combined have a stat line of 35 Targets - 25 Receptions for 281 yards, so they've had 8 games where Goedert wasn't there and they still put up less than half a reception per game, maybe it's not that they're not good enough, but even when they were the only option at TE they didn't trouble the scorers.

1 minute ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I mean that'd be just me and every other person on the globe apart from you that does that yes.

By all means do a survey of people around you and ask how many of them think that players drafted in the second round got better scouting reports than those drafted 6th round and UDFA's.  I'm willing to bet that it's a pretty uncontroversial view.

I'm kind of intrigued how you do grade players I'll be honest.

Over the past 2 years Goedert has missed 8 games, over that period Calcaterra and Stoll combined have a stat line of 35 Targets - 25 Receptions for 281 yards, so they've had 8 games where Goedert wasn't there and they still put up less than half a reception per game, maybe it's not that they're not good enough, but even when they were the only option at TE they didn't trouble the scorers.

So, Tom Brady must have been a worse QB than Ryan Leaf?  Extreme example, but the analogy makes my point.

Of course, the lower a player is drafted or if undrafted, expectations are low as they are presumed to be not as good.  But how many late round/UDFA players turn out better than some of their high-round peers?  Once a player enters the NFL, all that "grading" goes out the window.  It becomes about what can that player do in the NFL.  Therefore, I judge based on what I can see.  Unfortunately, we have to assume that if a receiver is not getting catches or playing time, it's because they're not good enough.  But, that's not always the case.  Many other factors contribute to "stats".  

Expectations for Calcaterra and Stoll were obviously low...based on their draft positioning, etc.  But, that doesn't automatically mean they are not capable of contributing more as pass catchers...hence my above questions and comments.  

Brent Celek was a 5th round pick.  Chad Lewis was a UDFA.  They were the 2 best TEs of the Andy Reid era.  Was their "draft grade" indicative of their capabilities or were they just in a better position with a coaching staff that gave them opportunities and a QB who would involve them more often?

43 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

So, Tom Brady must have been a worse QB than Ryan Leaf?  Extreme example, but the analogy makes my point.

Of course, the lower a player is drafted or if undrafted, expectations are low as they are presumed to be not as good.  But how many late round/UDFA players turn out better than some of their high-round peers?  Once a player enters the NFL, all that "grading" goes out the window.  It becomes about what can that player do in the NFL.  Therefore, I judge based on what I can see.  Unfortunately, we have to assume that if a receiver is not getting catches or playing time, it's because they're not good enough.  But, that's not always the case.  Many other factors contribute to "stats".  

Expectations for Calcaterra and Stoll were obviously low...based on their draft positioning, etc.  But, that doesn't automatically mean they are not capable of contributing more as pass catchers...hence my above questions and comments.  

Brent Celek was a 5th round pick.  Chad Lewis was a UDFA.  They were the 2 best TEs of the Andy Reid era.  Was their "draft grade" indicative of their capabilities or were they just in a better position with a coaching staff that gave them opportunities and a QB who would involve them more often?

This is why the NFL teams fail at drafting. They pay too much attention to combine, and numbers...And not enough time spent on interviews determining players Hunger for Winning  and Love for the game. (If the Eagles were doing it right, they would not bring in Jordan Davis or Nakobe Dean. Workout worriers . )

We do not need to draft a TE with a high pick..but we do have to do a better job at selecting the GUY who wants to knock someone's head off. Someone who is intelligent enough to succeed on the field despite not being elite athlete . Someone who wants to stay on the field and play despite an injury. 

4 minutes ago, Traveler Vic said:

This is why the NFL teams fail at drafting. They pay too much attention to combine, and numbers...And not enough time spent on interviews determining players Hunger for Winning  and Love for the game. (If the Eagles were doing it right, they would not bring in Jordan Davis or Nakobe Dean. Workout worriers . )

We do not need to draft a TE with a high pick..but we do have to do a better job at selecting the GUY who wants to knock someone's head off. Someone who is intelligent enough to succeed on the field despite not being elite athlete . Someone who wants to stay on the field and play despite an injury. 

I think they definitely got caught up with the athletic testing in regards to Davis...that plus the high priority they put on the DT position.  Dean has a good mental makeup, his issues are physical.  Davis, on the other hand, strikes me as too much of a "gentle giant" type.  He seems like he has a passive personality.  I'm not sure about his desire or passion to be the best he can be...which would require him to work hard all year round to optimize his conditioning so he doesn't start fading in the middle of the season.

Players that fail with the physical gifts that Davis has, it is almost certainly all about their mental makeup.

He was pretty good for the Bengals the year they made the Super Bowl. He stepped up in the playoffs for them, was injured in the championship game but made it back to play with a sprained MCL in the Super Bowl. He turned that strong playoff run into a pretty good contract with the Jets

The issue for Uzomah is health, every time he really gets going he has an injury that causes him to miss time. I like it as a depth signing, he can be a threat in the passing game and is an instant upgrade over what they had. The worry is how his body holds up 

Our backup TE's have been unremarkable since Goedert backed up Ertz, and Celic was still in the mix. But I agree, Hurts has to actually throw to them. Whether they can't get open, or Hurts won't throw to a backup, hopefully this signing is an improvement. 

42 minutes ago, ThinkGreen said:

Our backup TE's have been unremarkable since Goedert backed up Ertz, and Celic was still in the mix. But I agree, Hurts has to actually throw to them. Whether they can't get open, or Hurts won't throw to a backup, hopefully this signing is an improvement. 

We never had Goedert and Celek at the same time. We drafted Goedert the year we didn't re-sign Celek and Burton left in free agency. Having Ertz, Goedert and Rodgers was a pretty good room. 

As far as having remarkable backups, I guess that would depend on expectations. Celek was a complete TE, but was used more as a blocker late in his career. Rodgers was a good all-purpose backup that could fill in as a receiver or blocker (role). Since he left, we haven't really had anybody that was solid all around TE2. They've been mostly one dimensional, with situational  role value only. 

Another TE that Hurts won't throw to. Got it. 

7 hours ago, brkmsn said:

We never had Goedert and Celek at the same time. We drafted Goedert the year we didn't re-sign Celek and Burton left in free agency. Having Ertz, Goedert and Rodgers was a pretty good room. 

As far as having remarkable backups, I guess that would depend on expectations. Celek was a complete TE, but was used more as a blocker late in his career. Rodgers was a good all-purpose backup that could fill in as a receiver or blocker (role). Since he left, we haven't really had anybody that was solid all around TE2. They've been mostly one dimensional, with situational  role value only. 

Thanks, I misremembered that. Burton was great when he was in Philly. I was disappointed that Rodgers didn't have more catches.