August 9, 20241 yr I remember when we had to plug Matt Pryor in at RG for a couple games because of injury. He was nothing special by himself, but playing with 4 quality starters allowed his contribution to be sufficient. It was far from the end of the world. Both Steen and Becton are more talented than Pryor. Steen has been developing as a Guard for over a year now and Becton is learning and making progress. It's not a failure if the play at RG this season is solid. I'm not sure why everybody is so worried. What exposed Pryor as a liability was when we had multiple injuries on the line at the same time and there was no cohesion that season.
August 10, 20241 yr Author It's telling that Becton did not see much time. Seems like his job to lose at this stage.
August 10, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, Procus said: It's telling that Becton did not see much time. Seems like his job to lose at this stage. I feel like it’s going to be a problem all season and it could become a real issue if Lane misses a few games like he seems to do every season. I think some are overestimating this line, and don’t realize how durable Kelce was and fail to realize how everyone other than Mialata so far isn’t.
August 10, 20241 yr Author 6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: I feel like it’s going to be a problem all season and it could become a real issue if Lane misses a few games like he seems to do every season. I think some are overestimating this line, and don’t realize how durable Kelce was and fail to realize how everyone other than Mialata so far isn’t. The line is in transition - no doubt. I'm reading that Trevor Keegan played well which is encouraging. Steen's stock seems to be on the decline. I wouldn't have thought it, but right now, Becton seems to be the favorite to be the starting RG on opening day. The thought is that he has too much talent to sit on the bench.
August 10, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: I feel like it’s going to be a problem all season and it could become a real issue if Lane misses a few games like he seems to do every season. I think some are overestimating this line, and don’t realize how durable Kelce was and fail to realize how everyone other than Mialata so far isn’t. Im with you on this. Im thinking this line will be what holds this team back this year. It was already showing some cracks last season
August 10, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, Procus said: The line is in transition - no doubt. I'm reading that Trevor Keegan played well which is encouraging. Steen's stock seems to be on the decline. I wouldn't have thought it, but right now, Becton seems to be the favorite to be the starting RG on opening day. The thought is that he has too much talent to sit on the bench. Maybe they find their Evan Mathis moment and Becton turns out to be a rock. If there’s anyone in this coaching that I do have some faith in it would be Stoutland.
August 12, 20241 yr If Becton is or becomes the starter at RG, that is a serious indictment of Steen. Steen was the clear "on paper" starter heading into camp and he loses his job to a late addition FA who is a former bust at tackle? That's really concerning for Steen's prospects and it's really disappointing. I will reserve judgement until I see Becton in real game action at RG, but I'm not optimistic.
August 12, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, EaglesAddict said: If Becton is or becomes the starter at RG, that is a serious indictment of Steen. Steen was the clear "on paper" starter heading into camp and he loses his job to a late addition FA who is a former bust at tackle? That's really concerning for Steen's prospects and it's really disappointing. I will reserve judgement until I see Becton in real game action at RG, but I'm not optimistic. You don’t really win the job on paper or on the sidelines. This is still only Steen’s second season so maybe he’s just not ready and his injury set him back. No one should ever be given the job without proving themselves. That’s what they did with Dean and I’m glad they’re not making that mistake again. With that being the case Becton "winning the job” doesn’t mean he’s going to be good at it. We will have to wait to see how it all plays out.
August 13, 20241 yr 15 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: You don’t really win the job on paper or on the sidelines. This is still only Steen’s second season so maybe he’s just not ready and his injury set him back. No one should ever be given the job without proving themselves. That’s what they did with Dean and I’m glad they’re not making that mistake again. With that being the case Becton "winning the job” doesn’t mean he’s going to be good at it. We will have to wait to see how it all plays out. Steen was clearly thought of as this year's starting RG, at least as far as what the beat writers observed. Coaches don't typically let a starter lose their job due to a minor injury. So, either they never really saw Steen as a starter, or they changed their minds after seeing him in OTAs and some of camp. Either way, it's not a good look for Steen and his future as a pro. He may be one of those guys who can only play one position, in his case, left tackle. So in other words, we may have another Andre Dillard in the sense he can only be a backup at LT.
August 13, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesAddict said: Steen was clearly thought of as this year's starting RG, at least as far as what the beat writers observed. Coaches don't typically let a starter lose their job due to a minor injury. So, either they never really saw Steen as a starter, or they changed their minds after seeing him in OTAs and some of camp. Either way, it's not a good look for Steen and his future as a pro. He may be one of those guys who can only play one position, in his case, left tackle. So in other words, we may have another Andre Dillard in the sense he can only be a backup at LT. Dillard was a first so I don’t really see Steen in that light. I never saw Dillard becoming a starter even if he was at time considered the heir apparent. Steen clearly hasn’t shown he deserves to be the starter up to this point, but he never should have been considered a starter anyway. If they chose to do that then they haven’t learned from the past. What did Steen show last season to prove he was ready? Big mistake if that was their plans.
August 13, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Dillard was a first so I don’t really see Steen in that light. I never saw Dillard becoming a starter even if he was at time considered the heir apparent. Steen clearly hasn’t shown he deserves to be the starter up to this point, but he never should have been considered a starter anyway. If they chose to do that then they haven’t learned from the past. What did Steen show last season to prove he was ready? Big mistake if that was their plans. A 3rd round OL pick should be starter material, particularly interior OL. Steen was solely a LT in college, but many college tackles convert to Guard in the NFL. I guess the Eagles mis-read Steen's ability to adjust to playing Guard, and playing on the opposite side of the line as well. Steen didn't do anything last year, but the consensus was that RG was his to lose this year. And, it seems he lost it. I'm just saying that, overall, it seems Steen just can't transition to a new position. That likely foretells a busted 3rd round pick. Maybe he gets it together, but his career is off to a really shaky start.
August 14, 20241 yr On 8/12/2024 at 8:50 AM, EaglesAddict said: If Becton is or becomes the starter at RG, that is a serious indictment of Steen. Steen was the clear "on paper" starter heading into camp and he loses his job to a late addition FA who is a former bust at tackle? That's really concerning for Steen's prospects and it's really disappointing. I will reserve judgement until I see Becton in real game action at RG, but I'm not optimistic. no. Steen is fine. Becton is a former high first round pick with great combine numbers and rare size. Teams will draft guys with his size and combine numbers, like Mims, even if they only played 8 games in college. If Becton is 100% physically, it's a big upgrade, physically. If Becton isn't good, then Steen could replace, and Steen becomes the Swing Tackle, or they move Becton to fill for the Tackle that is out.
August 15, 20241 yr Offensive lineman can sometimes take a few years to develop into successful starters Mailata was a 7th round pick who never played football Dickerson was a 2nd round pick with injury issues in college Kelce was a 6th round pick who tool 5 years to be an all-pro Jason Peters was an undrafted free agent who got cut and took 2 years to start. Brandon Brooks was a 3rd rounder who took 4 years to become an all-pro. Lane Johnson was drafted 4th overall and has been a fixture since then. My point is that Steen, by Stoutland's and Johnson's own words, has come along alot and it was unfortunate that he got hurt. Becton had injury issues and the jets lost patience with him......but he has the tools to be a very good guard or tackle.
August 15, 20241 yr I'm not a big Beckton fan. He can drive block but his feet are questionable meaning he will struggle with stunts and pass pro. I also question his fitness as he has already upchucked twice. I would split the reps the next two games with Steen and see who grades out better.
August 15, 20241 yr Author On 8/10/2024 at 11:15 AM, EazyEaglez said: I feel like it’s going to be a problem all season and it could become a real issue if Lane misses a few games like he seems to do every season. I think some are overestimating this line, and don’t realize how durable Kelce was and fail to realize how everyone other than Mialata so far isn’t. Apparently Darian Kinnard is looking good. It would be a very positive development if he could fill in effectively at RT when LJ is out.
August 15, 20241 yr Author 3 hours ago, Eagles1960 said: I'm not a big Beckton fan. He can drive block but his feet are questionable meaning he will struggle with stunts and pass pro. I also question his fitness as he has already upchucked twice. I would split the reps the next two games with Steen and see who grades out better. Looks like Steen will get plenty of reps to show us what he's got.
August 16, 20241 yr Steen will be a good backup at RT. He'll be the first guy off the bench if need be at RT or RG
August 16, 20241 yr Author 14 hours ago, Godfather said: Steen will be a good backup at RT. He'll be the first guy off the bench if need be at RT or RG From what I've been reading, Darian Killard played nicely at RT. It would be a good problem for the Eagles to have a lot of quality depth at RT.
August 17, 20241 yr Author On 8/13/2024 at 12:52 PM, EaglesAddict said: A 3rd round OL pick should be starter material, particularly interior OL. Steen was solely a LT in college, but many college tackles convert to Guard in the NFL. I guess the Eagles mis-read Steen's ability to adjust to playing Guard, and playing on the opposite side of the line as well. Steen didn't do anything last year, but the consensus was that RG was his to lose this year. And, it seems he lost it. I'm just saying that, overall, it seems Steen just can't transition to a new position. That likely foretells a busted 3rd round pick. Maybe he gets it together, but his career is off to a really shaky start. What you're missing is that Becton is a freak - and he has too much physical talent, at least from the coaches point of view, to let him sit on the bench. I think this is much more about Becton than about Steen (who hasn't helped his cause with his ankle injury)
August 17, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Procus said: What you're missing is that Becton is a freak - and he has too much physical talent, at least from the coaches point of view, to let him sit on the bench. I think this is much more about Becton than about Steen (who hasn't helped his cause with his ankle injury) Also Stout seems to have liked Becton since draft, and he finally got him after a few years wait..
August 19, 20241 yr I think Howie made a massive error by drafting Cooper DeJean instead of one of the top OGs in last year's draft. Considering the depth we have at CB, there really wasn't a need to trade up for him. I would have rather them drafted a high end OG or C - reports out of Dallas are that Cooper Beebe has looked great and could be a starter for them this year.
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