July 7, 20241 yr I think it’s naive to think he could do the job every day until January 2029. But he’ll be fine for a few more months.
July 7, 20241 yr That would essentially make House Speaker Mike Johnson VP (not officially, but in terms of succession he'd become #2 in line). She would appoint a new VP, but it would have to get House approval, and that likely wouldn't happen so Johnson would be 2nd in line until January 20, 2025.
July 7, 20241 yr Something else that just came to mind, which likely wouldn't be an issue, is that the Democrats would lose the tie breaking vote in the Senate for any period of time that there's no sitting VP. The VP is the President of the Senate and only votes in case of a tie. Lacking a VP, the President Pro Tempore resides over the Senate and fulfills the duties of the VP in all areas concerning the Senate, except for breaking a tie vote. Like I said, this likely wouldn't come up. But it's just one of the wrinkles.
July 8, 20241 yr Biden is geriatric. He could have a medical episode where he is disabled to the point he can't execute the office, or deceased. Barring that he continues to be POTUS.
July 8, 20241 yr He’s going to make Hunter Biden president right after he grants him pardon from the republican witch trials… that were fake and a sham. Kamala stays VP.
July 9, 20241 yr Author I voted no. Although I doubt he'll be heading up the ticket in November. Here's a dark horse to look out for: https://governor.ky.gov/About-Us/Pages/Governor-Andy-Beshear.aspx
July 10, 20241 yr No way - the Dems cannot allow this. If they think that they have no chance with a dementia patient - they are doomed with this barely functional moron.
July 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, sameaglesfan said: No way - the Dems cannot allow this. If they think that they have no chance with a dementia patient - they are doomed with this barely functional moron. That is the choice this year, barely functional old morons. However, one yearns to be a dictator, is friendly with our enemies, and is unfit to watch a dog.
July 21, 20241 yr Author On 7/7/2024 at 6:36 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said: Something else that just came to mind, which likely wouldn't be an issue, is that the Democrats would lose the tie breaking vote in the Senate for any period of time that there's no sitting VP. The VP is the President of the Senate and only votes in case of a tie. Lacking a VP, the President Pro Tempore resides over the Senate and fulfills the duties of the VP in all areas concerning the Senate, except for breaking a tie vote. Like I said, this likely wouldn't come up. But it's just one of the wrinkles. I wonder if there's historical precedent for that
July 21, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Procus said: I wonder if there's historical precedent for that it's spelled "president"
July 21, 20241 yr 45 minutes ago, Procus said: I wonder if there's historical precedent for that Just off the top of my head, Nixon resigning and Ford becoming President. His pick for VP had to be confirmed. After looking it up to get the dates right, Ford became President on August 9th, 1974. Rockefeller was sworn in as VP on December 19th, 1974. So for a little over 4 months, there was no VP. After Kennedy was killed and LBJ became President, there wasn't a VP until the next election. Same with when Roosevelt died and Truman became President.
July 21, 20241 yr Author 9 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: Just off the top of my head, Nixon resigning and Ford becoming President. His pick for VP had to be confirmed. After looking it up to get the dates right, Ford became President on August 9th, 1974. Rockefeller was sworn in as VP on December 19th, 1974. So for a little over 4 months, there was no VP. After Kennedy was killed and LBJ became President, there wasn't a VP until the next election. Same with when Roosevelt died and Truman became President. They were situations where we had no sitting VP. But in such case, I'm not so certain that the Speaker would become the tie breaking vote. Article I, Sect. 3 of the Constitution: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided." Yes, if there's a vacancy and no sitting VP, the Speaker is next in line in succession to the presidency, but that doesn't make the speaker the VP.
July 21, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Procus said: They were situations where we had no sitting VP. But in such case, I'm not so certain that the Speaker would become the tie breaking vote. Article I, Sect. 3 of the Constitution: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided." Yes, if there's a vacancy and no sitting VP, the Speaker is next in line in succession to the presidency, but that doesn't make the speaker the VP. The Speaker would never be the tie breaking vote in the Senate, he's in the House. The President Pro Tempore of the Senate would reside over the Senate but would not have an extra vote in case of a tie. In case of a tie without a VP, it's just a tie and that's that. Where I said that the Speaker comes in is he would now be #2 in line to become President if (in this case), something happened where Harris could not be President (if Biden were gone). That doesn't involve votes in the Senate at all, though.
July 22, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: Just off the top of my head, Nixon resigning and Ford becoming President. His pick for VP had to be confirmed. After looking it up to get the dates right, Ford became President on August 9th, 1974. Rockefeller was sworn in as VP on December 19th, 1974. So for a little over 4 months, there was no VP. After Kennedy was killed and LBJ became President, there wasn't a VP until the next election. Same with when Roosevelt died and Truman became President. Surely you know Ford wasn’t Nixon’s VP. There’s a chain of command and if one person can’t do it then it moves on to the next person. Spiro Agnew had already resigned. That’s how Ford became President as Speaker of the House.
July 22, 20241 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: Surely you know Ford wasn’t Nixon’s VP. There’s a chain of command and if one person can’t do it then it moves on to the next person. Spiro Agnew had already resigned. That’s how Ford became President as Speaker of the House. He wasn't the 40th Vice President of the United States? Ford was a Republican. The Speaker of the House at that time was Carl Albert, a Democrat. Gerald Ford was the first (and so far only) person to ever become President of the United States without being elected as President or Vice President, he was appointed as Vice President by Nixon after Agnew resigned.
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