July 20, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: As I added to my post New Mexico is offsetting that. More could be done like new refineries. https://energycommerce.house.gov/posts/biden-s-burdensome-regulations-are-shutting-down-american-refineries
July 20, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: As I added to my post New Mexico is offsetting that. More could be done like new refineries. I take it you’ve never traveled around the American Southeast.
July 20, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I take it you’ve never traveled around the American Southeast. How is the Keystone Pipeline doing these days? New refineries?
July 20, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: I think that's BS. If that was true the Saudis wouldn't be controlling oil prices the way they did requiring Biden to tap the reserve. I think New Mexico is offsetting things and more can be done. Also, our strategic reserve hasn't been replaced. Dude, you need to turn off Fox News. It's giving you brain rot. These are objective, easily verifiable facts.
July 20, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: I think that's BS. If that was true the Saudis wouldn't be controlling oil prices the way they did requiring Biden to tap the reserve. I think New Mexico is offsetting things and more can be done. Also, our strategic reserve hasn't been replaced. It’s an objective fact regardless of how you feel about it.
July 20, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: As I added to my post New Mexico is offsetting that. More could be done like new refineries. https://energycommerce.house.gov/posts/biden-s-burdensome-regulations-are-shutting-down-american-refineries And which country is New Mexico apart of?
July 20, 20241 yr 20 hours ago, Procus said: Details regarding the assassination reveal bumbling incompetence at the Secret Service, and the Democratic party in general is fast gaining a rep as a bunch of stumble bums. It’s the Democrats fault that Trump said the Secret Service should stand down and not protect Hillary Clinton? Don’t say the words if you aren’t willing to have them come to fruition. The Secret Service did fantastic work, at least in contrast to what Trump himself suggested they do.
July 20, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: And which country is New Mexico apart of? Cute, but the bottom line you and the others can't refute is we are still begging the Saudis to help lower prices. Why? Because we aren't energy independent. Period. Gas is no longer two dollars because of them, Ukraine, and Israel. If things were as great as you all suggest because of our production levels that wouldn't be happening. Biden drained the reserves and hasn't filled them. That's a problem. If we were producing enough oil AND had new refineries we wouldn't be here. You all can try to spin it any way you want and it will be BS. Keystone and others need to open up and they need new refineries to handle the production. Until then we will continue to rely on the Saudis and we will be paying for it at the pump.
July 20, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Dude, you need to turn off Fox News. It's giving you brain rot. These are objective, easily verifiable facts. Wrong, as stated above.
July 20, 20241 yr Author https://www.inquirer.com/politics/nation/joe-biden-lost-control-democratic-party-20240719.html Behind the scenes as Joe Biden lost control of the Democratic Party The sudden collapse of Biden’s control over the party he brought to power, just four months before a presidential election, is without obvious historical precedent. Biden walks onstage for the Ukraine Compact event at the NATO summit in Washington earlier this month.Demetrius Freeman / The Washington Post by Michael Scherer, Tyler Pager, Josh Dawsey, and Ashley Parker, Washington Post Published July 19, 2024, 5:32 p.m. ET
July 20, 20241 yr 32 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Cute, but the bottom line you and the others can't refute is we are still begging the Saudis to help lower prices. Why? Because we aren't energy independent. Period. Gas is no longer two dollars because of them, Ukraine, and Israel. If things were as great as you all suggest because of our production levels that wouldn't be happening. Biden drained the reserves and hasn't filled them. That's a problem. If we were producing enough oil AND had new refineries we wouldn't be here. You all can try to spin it any way you want and it will be BS. Keystone and others need to open up and they need new refineries to handle the production. Until then we will continue to rely on the Saudis and we will be paying for it at the pump. I too hate it when facts don’t care about my feelings. 2 hours ago, VanHammersly said: Dude… On March 11, 2024, the EIA made it official: United States produces more crude oil than any country, ever. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2024/03/12/eia-confirms-historic-us-oil-production-record/#
July 20, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I also hate it when facts don’t care about my feelings. Facts like we still have to beg the Saudis to release more? Fact that we aren't independent for a reason because we need more production and refineries? Fact that can't be refuted regardless of your links? Fact you are paying more at the pump this week because of it? They still control prices not the US. Yeah, that sucks for you and the rest of Americans.
July 20, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Facts like we still have to beg the Saudis? Fact that we aren't independent for a reason because we need more production and refineries? Fact that can't be refuted regardless of your links? Fact you are paying more at the pump this week because of it? They still control prices not the US. Yeah, that sucks for you and the rest of Americans. You said Biden was "making us dependent on foreign oil”. That’s an embarrassing lie considering we’re producing more crude oil than anytime in history. The rest of this is just you flailing.
July 20, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You said Biden was "making us dependent on foreign oil”. That’s an embarrassing lie considering we’re producing more crude oil than anytime in history. The rest of this is just you flailing. Democrats and Biden, yes. We need more production or we wouldn't be asking them to release more. Period. We need new refineries because we do not have enough. You can think whatever you want. Look at your links filling up this week. I'm sure the rest of struggling Americans will be happy have their problems fixed by that as well. Facts are a **** that links can't undue. But but but we have enough because we are producing the most ever. We just like being on our knees begging the Saudis to release more even though we have enough.
July 20, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: ok bud We have enough cause we produce the most ever!! We just need to beg the Saudis to release more for fun.
July 20, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: We have enough cause we produce the most ever!! We just need to beg the Saudis to release more for fun. Oh I get it now, Sean Hannity hasn't ever explained to his viewers what a fungible commodity is.
July 20, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Democrats and Biden, yes. We need more production or we wouldn't be asking them to release more. We’re literally producing more than any time in history. Any other point you’re making is a desperate cope (which is insane since we’re talking about an objectively good thing)
July 20, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: We’re literally producing more than any time in history. Any other point you’re making is a desperate cope (which is insane since we’re talking about an objectively good thing) You can't refute the BS that we are producing enough yet beg the Saudis to produce more. Speaking of desperation. Got it.
July 20, 20241 yr Just now, Diehardfan said: You can't refute the BS that we are producing enough yet beg the Saudis to produce more. Got it. Nothing to refute. We’re doing both because it’s in our interests to do both.
July 20, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Nothing to refute. We’re doing both because it’s in our interests to do both. Well, it's been fun I hope you and WGB enjoy the weekend with your families. I'm off to golf.
July 20, 20241 yr Just now, Diehardfan said: You can't refute the BS that we are producing enough yet beg the Saudis to produce more. Speaking of desperation. Got it. Reality check: it's you who has hasn't refuted the notion that we are producing more oil under Biden than under Trump. Show us some data that we were producing more then vs now and then we can talk. I'm sure you feel like that's true, but I'd love to see some actual evidence of it. Reals over feels, man.
July 20, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Can you post the consumption table as well? Sweden ain’t on it
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