1 minute ago, Gannan said:

Democrats have done more for the white working class than republicans ever will. Republicans pay them lip service, nothing more. There isn't a single economic policy republicans have passed in the last decade that have benefitted the white working class. Not one. 

Obama lowered taxes for the working class

Obamacare was actually good for working class tradesman like plumbers and contractors who work for themselves (people like some of my friends) who were able to get affordable health care

Biden expanded the child tax credit, brought back manufacturing jobs

 

Trump build half a **** wall that didn't benefit them at all, and lowered taxes for billionaires and corporations, and screwed working people by not allowing them to write off unreimbursed expenses from work. 

Board libertarian here splooging over Obama.  

Just now, Kz! said:

Board libertarian here splooging over Obama.  

Trumptards: Obama is a socialist

Me: here's some of Obama's socialist policies that benefitted the working class.

Trumptards: stop talking about Obama's socialist policies!

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Board libertarian here splooging over Obama.  

Beat me to it.  Maybe next he'll expand on the merits of socialized medicine from a libertarian's perspective 😂

Just now, Gannan said:

Trumptards: Obama is a socialist

Me: here's some of Obama's socialist policies that benefitted the working class.

Trumptards: stop talking about Obama's socialist policies!

Stating that Obama was a socialist and that you support socialist policies

Rest case.

3 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Beat me to it.  Maybe next he'll expand on the merits of socialized medicine from a libertarian's perspective 😂

Never said I agreed with his policies. Just educating you on what they were. If you were a poor or working class during the Obama years, you benefitted white or not. That's jus a fact. I made too much money to benefit from those policies, but I am aware they existed. 

1 minute ago, The Norseman said:

Stating that Obama was a socialist and that you support socialist policies

Rest case.

Please tell me where I said I supported those policies. I'll wait. 

3 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Beat me to it.  Maybe next he'll expand on the merits of socialized medicine from a libertarian's perspective 😂

My favorite part is how his friends were finally able to get "affordable healthcare" thanks to Obamacare when that has been one of the most epic, unmitigated disasters of maybe any president ever. Literally FUBARd the entire field into what it is today. Honestly, that's why I say it's a cult. These people are so detached from reality that it's actually a bit alarming. 

Just now, Kz! said:

My favorite part is how his friends were finally able to get "affordable healthcare" thanks to Obamacare when that has been one of the most epic, unmitigated disasters of maybe any president ever. Literally FUBARd the entire field into what it is today. Honestly, that's why I say it's a cult. These people are so detached from reality that it's actually a bit alarming. 

It did F up a lot. The entire student loan crisis is tied to Obamacare. It doesn't mean people didn't benefit from it. And yes, people I know are among those who did. 

3 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Beat me to it.  Maybe next he'll expand on the merits of socialized medicine from a libertarian's perspective 😂

  You weirdo's renominated and still support a guy who says he'll provide universal healthcare, who signed checks to every American and who ballooned the debt to the tune of $8T.  Stop pretending you have a problem with socialism and government spending.  It's embarrassing at this point.
 

 

2 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Please tell me where I said I supported those policies. I'll wait. 

we'd really only have to reference your behavior on this board for the last 8 years

1 minute ago, The Norseman said:

we'd really only have to reference your behavior on this board for the last 8 years

So in other words you can't. 

I do prefer presidents who leave when their term expires. No arguments there. 

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

It did F up a lot. The entire student loan crisis is tied to Obamacare. It doesn't mean people didn't benefit from it. And yes, people I know are among those who did. 

Sure, bud. You had the two friends who didn't have health insurance their health insurance completely effed and were finally able to find a great and affordable policy under the benevolent ACA! It's just a massive coincidence that you, a giant liberal, know the two people that benefitted from that! what are the odds?  

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

  You weirdo's renominated and still support a guy who says he'll provide universal healthcare, who signed checks to every American and who ballooned the debt to the tune of $8T.  Stop pretending you have a problem with socialism and government spending.  It's embarrassing at this point.
 

 

I'm honestly too tired to explain again how mandatory spending works and who caused it.  You're argument is so fundamentally flawed its nauseating. 

But by all means, keep voting for social welfare programs and blaming Republicans for the national debt.  

2 minutes ago, Gannan said:

So in other words you can't. 

I do prefer presidents who leave when their term expires. No arguments there. 

In other words, I don't need to.  Everyone here knows you're a raging progressive. 

7 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Sure, bud. You had the two friends who didn't have health insurance their health insurance completely effed and were finally able to find a great and affordable policy under the benevolent ACA! It's just a massive coincidence that you, a giant liberal, know the two people that benefitted from that! what are the odds?  

A sheetload of people have benefited from healthcare at a reduced cost.  You can disagree with it ideologically (which of course you don't because you're all about Trump's big spending/socialism), but pretending like the ACA didn't help a ton of people is bizarre.  And the numbers bear it out.  It polls around 60% now that the right doesn't constantly attack it for political purposes.  People don't support it for no reason.  They like the service it provides.

Just now, Kz! said:

Sure, bud. You had the two friends who didn't have health insurance their health insurance completely effed and were finally able to find a great and affordable policy under the benevolent ACA! It's just a massive coincidence that you, a giant liberal, know the two people that benefitted from that! what are the odds?  

Yeah again I never said great. I said people benefitted. You Trumptards also completely ignored the other points and never once tried to argue that Trump did anything economically that benefitted the working class. I forgot what trying to have an actual discussion of policy with you was like. This was my fault for forgetting that your IQ is somewhere around plant life.

Just now, Gannan said:

Yeah again I never said great. I said people benefitted. You Trumptards also completely ignored the other points and never once tried to argue that Trump did anything economically that benefitted the working class. I forgot what trying to have an actual discussion of policy with you was like. This was my fault for forgetting that your IQ is somewhere around plant life.

"Obama lowered my taxes and got all my friends great medical care!" Imagine pretending you are in anything but a cult and talking like this.  

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

A sheetload of people have benefited from healthcare at a reduced cost.  You can disagree with ideologically (which of course you don't because you're all about Trump's big spending/socialism), but pretending like the ACA didn't help a ton of people is bizarre.  And the numbers bear it out.  It polls around 60% now that the right doesn't constantly attack it for political purposes.  People don't support it for no reason.  They like the service it provides.

Imagine actually having a job and thinking the ACA is a success. Holy sheet. It's not the DCotP for nothing.  

2 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Yeah again I never said great. I said people benefitted. You Trumptards also completely ignored the other points and never once tried to argue that Trump did anything economically that benefitted the working class. I forgot what trying to have an actual discussion of policy with you was like. This was my fault for forgetting that your IQ is somewhere around plant life.

There is literally no point in talking policy with any of you.  It only encourages you to go apoplectic with your normal TDS nonsense.  

Just now, Kz! said:

Imagine actually having a job and thinking the ACA is a success. Holy sheet. It's not the DCotP for nothing.  

Good comeback dumb F.  Meanwhile, 62% of the American people support it.  They're not supporting it for no reason.  It's helped a ton of people.

https://www.kff.org/interactive/kff-health-tracking-poll-the-publics-views-on-the-aca/#?response=Favorable--Unfavorable&aRange=twoYear

We asked: "In general, do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of the health reform bill signed into law in 2010, known commonly as the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare?”

7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

A sheetload of people have benefited from healthcare at a reduced cost.  You can disagree with ideologically (which of course you don't because you're all about Trump's big spending/socialism), but pretending like the ACA didn't help a ton of people is bizarre.  And the numbers bear it out.  It polls around 60% now that the right doesn't constantly attack it for political purposes.  People don't support it for no reason.  They like the service it provides.

And yet Trump was elected largely on his promise to repeal it

Just now, The Norseman said:

And yet Trump was elected largely on his promise to repeal it

Yeah that was it

8 minutes ago, Kz! said:

"Obama lowered my taxes and got all my friends great medical care!" Imagine pretending you are in anything but a cult and talking like this.  

Imagine being an adult man who can't read simple sentences. I said he lowered taxes for the working class. I'm not working class dingus. 

 

Just now, The Norseman said:

And yet Trump was elected largely on his promise to repeal it

...and replace it with the best universal healthcare ever!    He promised to replace socialized medicine with socialized medicine, then never actually came up with the plan and then failed to even repeal the ACA.  So not only does he have no principles, he's also incompetent. 

3 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

There is literally no point in talking policy with any of you.  It only encourages you to go apoplectic with your normal TDS nonsense.  

I gave you facts, none of which you were able to refute. Once again you've completely embarrassed yourself here. Wanna take another crack at it? What specific Trump economic policies and legislation benefitted the working class? What is incorrect about the benefits to the working class of any of the policies I mentioned? No emotions. No vague references to things that were posted in the past. Give me one specific piece of legislation that Trump passed to help the working class. I'll wait.