August 1, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: they simply have to win PA. Yes they do, but I'm not sure he brings it any more than Joe does. I find the pick myopic, I understand they are still trailing in a must win state, but he's flammable to your left wing and doesn't open any new lanes demographically. It gives you a ticket that is 3/4 Jewish, talk about Space Lasers! I'd go so far as to say they were better with a double barreled woman ticket with Whitmer or even Butigieg. I do not like the pick at all and I think it will stop her momentum dead in its tracks.
August 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said: Yes they do, but I'm not sure he brings it any more than Joe does. I find the pick myopic, I understand they are still trailing in a must win state, but he's flammable to your left wing and doesn't open any new lanes demographically. It gives you a ticket that is 3/4 Jewish, talk about Space Lasers! I'd go so far as to say they were better with a double barreled woman ticket with Whitmer or even Butigieg. I do not like the pick at all and I think it will stop her momentum dead in its tracks. This is almost as bizarre as your take on "The Last Jedi", but ok
August 1, 20241 yr Just now, dawkins4prez said: Yes they do, but I'm not sure he brings it any more than Joe does. I find the pick myopic, I understand they are still trailing in a must win state, but he's flammable to your left wing and doesn't open any new lanes demographically. It gives you a ticket that is 3/4 Jewish, talk about Space Lasers! I'd go so far as to say they were better with a double barelled woman ticket with Whitmer or even Butigieg. I do not like the pick at all and I think it will stop her momentum dead in its tracks. 3/4 Jewish? The spouses of the Prez and VP aren't on the ticket and the Christian is the one with all the power.
August 1, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Yes they do, but I'm not sure he brings it any more than Joe does. I find the pick myopic, I understand they are still trailing in a must win state, but he's flammable to your left wing and doesn't open any new lanes demographically. It gives you a ticket that is 3/4 Jewish, talk about Space Lasers! I'd go so far as to say they were better with a double barreled woman ticket with Whitmer or even Butigieg. I do not like the pick at all and I think it will stop her momentum dead in its tracks. His net favorability is off the charts, and he massively outperformed Biden in PA while Walz barely outperformed in MN. He's harsher on the Israeli government than Walz or Kelly. Not picking him because the far left wackadoodles are anti-Semitic isn't a smart decision. His polling numbers make clear he is the best choice. He'll reiterate his criticism of Netanyahu, and the only people upset will be the anti-Semites.
August 1, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Yes they do, but I'm not sure he brings it any more than Joe does. I find the pick myopic, I understand they are still trailing in a must win state, but he's flammable to your left wing and doesn't open any new lanes demographically. It gives you a ticket that is 3/4 Jewish, talk about Space Lasers! I'd go so far as to say they were better with a double barreled woman ticket with Whitmer or even Butigieg. I do not like the pick at all and I think it will stop her momentum dead in its tracks. How about we stop antisemitism dead in its tracks? It would be nice to toss in misogyny and homophobia. The bigger problem is baldness. That's the one she should look out for.
August 1, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: His net favorability is off the charts, and he massively outperformed Biden in PA while Walz barely outperformed in MN. He's harsher on the Israeli government than Walz or Kelly. Not picking him because the far left wackadoodles are anti-Semitic isn't a smart decision. His polling numbers make clear he is the best choice. He'll reiterate his criticism of Netanyahu, and the only people upset will be the anti-Semites. I'm not wrong on these things very often, but I was wrong very recently saying Biden shouldn't drop out. Hopefully I'm off this cycle.. I did nail just how bad Vance was off the bat though. I don't think you guys are appreciating how much of the Kamala fever and momentum is coming from the far left/youth. You're going to stop it dead in the tracks with this guy.
August 1, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: His net favorability is off the charts, and he massively outperformed Biden in PA while Walz barely outperformed in MN. He's harsher on the Israeli government than Walz or Kelly. Not picking him because the far left wackadoodles are anti-Semitic isn't a smart decision. His polling numbers make clear he is the best choice. He'll reiterate his criticism of Netanyahu, and the only people upset will be the anti-Semites. Agreed. I've said all along those whackos waving palestinian flags and blocking students from using the library don't vote. Pandering to that crowd is beyond stupid.
August 1, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Yes they do, but I'm not sure he brings it any more than Joe does. I find the pick myopic, I understand they are still trailing in a must win state, but he's flammable to your left wing and doesn't open any new lanes demographically. It gives you a ticket that is 3/4 Jewish, talk about Space Lasers! I'd go so far as to say they were better with a double barelled woman ticket with Whitmer or even Butigieg. I do not like the pick at all and I think it will stop her momentum dead in its tracks. You think a gay guy brings less baggage than a Jew?
August 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: Agreed. I've said all along those whackos waving palestinian flags and blocking students from using the library don't vote. Pandering to that crowd is beyond stupid. oh yes they do, oh yes they do.
August 1, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: Agreed. I've said all along those whackos waving palestinian flags and blocking students from using the library don't vote. Pandering to that crowd is beyond stupid. I don't man. What about the Ottomans?
August 1, 20241 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: You think a gay guy brings less baggage than a Jew? A christian gay who is also way better on camera? Yes I'd take Pete over Shapiro anyday. It's not wholly the Jew part, its the fact I don't find him as convincing as Waltz/Pete/Whitmer.
August 1, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: but I was wrong very recently saying Biden shouldn't drop out. I was on the fence and thought it was super risky. Turns out it wasn't really as risky as I thought if the polls are any indication.
August 1, 20241 yr Just now, dawkins4prez said: oh yes they do, oh yes they do. Yes who could ever forget Presidents Eugene McCarthy, Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich, and Bernie Sanders?
August 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said: A christian gay who is also way better on camera? Yes I'd take Pete over Shapiro anyday. It's not wholly the Jew part, its the fact I don't find him as convincing as Waltz/Pete/Whitmer. Dude, the country is not ready for a gay VP. Full stop. I wish that weren't the case, but it's just reality.
August 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said: A christian gay who is also way better on camera? Yes I'd take Pete over Shapiro anyday. It's not wholly the Jew part, its the fact I don't find him as convincing as Waltz/Pete/Whitmer. Shapiro's great on camera. Nothing to worry about there.
August 1, 20241 yr It's funny to see "progressives" reveal themselves to just be raving anti-Semites. Uncle Leo would be disgusted. I mean, all rational people knew that most of these people were just anti-Semites at the core, but way to remove any doubt guys. What Shapiro gains you in PA is worth angering a small group of bigots.
August 1, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: It's funny to see "progressives" reveal themselves to just be raving anti-Semites. Uncle Leo would be disgusted. I mean, all rational people knew that most of these people were just anti-Semites at the core, but way to remove any doubt guys. What Shapiro gains you in PA is worth angering a small group of bigots. Vikas, please. Claiming a black woman and a Jew might not be your strongest ticket is absolutely no different from saying Trump f'ed up by NOT picking the Black guy. We are talking about the politics of a rounded ticket, period full stop.
August 1, 20241 yr Just now, dawkins4prez said: Vikas, please. Claiming a black woman and a Jew might not be your strongest ticket is absolutely no different from saying Trump f'ed up by NOT picking the Black guy. We are talking about the politics of a rounded ticket, period full stop. My point is these "progressives" aren't looking at anything other than the fact he is Jewish. The people they want instead -- Walz and Kelly -- haven't criticized the Israeli government the way Shapiro has. If you're supposed to be "progressive" and not boob like the right, then look at the man's actual positions instead of his religion.
August 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: My point is these "progressives" aren't looking at anything other than the fact he is Jewish. The people they want instead -- Walz and Kelly -- haven't criticized the Israeli government the way Shapiro has. If you're supposed to be "progressive" and not boob like the right, then look at the man's actual positions instead of his religion. He is also very pro israel. He is going to be playing defense on his Israel view from day one and that's EXACTLY the topic I don't want to be touching because its poison to unified momentum for Democrats. It forces Harris to define her position which I really don't want right now, I hope you're right Vikas but again I'll say this kamala wave that caught everybody by surprise is thanks in no small part to the same far left you guys constantly diss as non factors in here. they are very much factors and they have concertedly told the harris camp not to pick him.
August 1, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, dawkins4prez said: Please don't F this up with Josh Shapiro. I mean you still have Scranton Joe to close out Penn. A pro Israel VEEp will dampen the enthusiasm with young social media followers, not worth it. I love Waltz as the attack dog, but I still believe that when the commotion dies down the stretch run will come down to two major issues; immigration and abortion. The ability to crown Mark kelly as the "border czar" and take that mantle off of Harris is still the most intelligent thing to do imo. Every veep still under consideration is pro-Israel to some extent. You best come to terms with the fact that most of the country is anti-terrorist, and for the most part that also makes you pro-Israel.
August 1, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, Gannan said: Yes who could ever forget Presidents Eugene McCarthy, Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich, and Bernie Sanders? You mean the same Bernie sanders who got mid 40's % votes in 2 different primaries? Primaries mind you, not general. Yes this wing is a large and vital part of the Democrat coalition and yes they vote.
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