Posted July 24, 20241 yr I keep seeing most writers stating, "This will be Saquon’s first chance to play behind a good OL ... " and expectations are that he is going to have a very strong year. We have had one of the league's best (if not THE best) OLs over the past several years, but with a new center and RG I don't think it is entirely a given we'll still be fielding a top 5 unit. You just don't replace a player like Kelce and think there won't be a dropoff. Obviously RG is a complete unknown right now as well. So what if the combo of Jurgens and Steen (or Becton or ??) underperform? Do we still think Barkley will have a strong year regardless (I mean, after all, we still have Mailata and Dickerson manning the left side ... one of if not the strongest left-side combos in the NFL) and Lane is, well, Lane ... always plays at a high level despite his age. But I've always thought that unit is only as good as the weakest link (there may indeed be 2 ... we shall see). So what if the unit struggles a bit more than we are used to seeing ... does Barkley still perform at a level that makes it worth the money they paid him? Maybe having someone like Barkley makes up a bit for a dropoff in level of play from the OL Thoughts?
July 24, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, time2rock said: I keep seeing most writers stating, "This will be Saquon’s first chance to play behind a good OL ... " and expectations are that he is going to have a very strong year. We have had one of the league's best (if not THE best) OLs over the past several years, but with a new center and RG I don't think it is entirely a given we'll still be fielding a top 5 unit. You just don't replace a player like Kelce and think there won't be a dropoff. Obviously RG is a complete unknown right now as well. So what if the combo of Jurgens and Steen (or Becton or ??) underperform? Do we still think Barkley will have a strong year regardless (I mean, after all, we still have Mailata and Dickerson manning the left side ... one of if not the strongest left-side combos in the NFL) and Lane is, well, Lane ... always plays at a high level despite his age. But I've always thought that unit is only as good as the weakest link (there may indeed be 2 ... we shall see). So what if the unit struggles a bit more than we are used to seeing ... does Barkley still perform at a level that makes it worth the money they paid him? Maybe having someone like Barkley makes up a bit for a dropoff in level of play from the OL Thoughts? Regardless it will be better than what he worked w in NY And also the weapons on the outside will help immensely. People like to reference his rookie year and how he's not quite been able to match that production. He had a gamebreaker at wideout in OBJ his rookie year and a semi solid Eli Manning. He's had nothing close since and our personnel clearly exceeds even that. I neither expect nor want CMC type usage but his presence alone should open things up. Moore jus has to dial up the right plays at the right time and Hurts and co have to execute
July 24, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Captain F said: 1200 rushing 550 recieving 11 total tds My guess is close, but I would take 200 rushing yards away and add them to his receiving total. 1,000 rush 750 receiving Just a hair over 100 yards per game, from scrimmage, on average. He will basically be the WR3 as well as RB1
July 24, 20241 yr I'm so stoked for Saquon to be in Philly. Off the field: you have a team leader, a locker room presence, a guy that can help prevent the train wreck that was last year. His leadership will become apparent this season. On the field: If he stays healthy, the Quadfather brings the brotherly shove to a whole different level. I expect 1200+ yards rushing, 300+ yards receiving, 13+ TDs, and a pro bowl selection
July 24, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, NOTW said: Depends. Will they give him the ball enough? It would be a pretty stupid signing if they didnt
July 24, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, NOTW said: Depends. Will they give him the ball enough? Hopefully they give him the ball instead of having Hurts run it in when they're in the redzone Would prefer they severely limit Hurts running and give the ball to the RB that's paid to take the workload
July 24, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: It would be a pretty stupid signing if they didnt 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: Hopefully they give him the ball instead of having Hurts run it in when they're in the redzone Would prefer they severely limit Hurts running and give the ball to the RB that's paid to take the workload Jus hopefully not to the extent of McCaffrey in San Fran
July 24, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, NJWolverEagle11 said: Jus hopefully not to the extent of McCaffrey in San Fran I wouldn't care if they did. Make him the sole runner and I'd be fine with that as long as he gets the yards
July 24, 20241 yr I'm cautiously optimistic. Moore has an idea of what he wants and Howie has done a pretty good job of getting him the pieces to make it work. Moore has done pretty good in utilizing the run to keep a defense on it's heels and honest so I think he'll be well utilized. I'm cautious because I've been overly optimistic in the past and it just didn't manifest.
July 25, 20241 yr He’s playing behind a better OL than he did in NY. With a better QB (who can run the ball so carries that threat) and our receiving weapons are far better. So in theory he should be set for a better year in terms of numbers etc. But that’s all in theory and right now I don’t think we know what to expect from this team. So I’m very excited to see Barkley play and think he’s going to be a really good addition but I’m cautious about this team overall.
July 25, 20241 yr I want to see: 1) Barkley effective when he does run it (4.7 ypc and 7.5 ypr), around 500 receiving and 1,200 rushing 2) Take the physical toll and leave Hurts healthy through the season
July 26, 20241 yr I wouldn´t be surprised if his numbers are a bit below what some are expecting. If the Eagles play with the lead a lot this year - and I think there´s a good chance of that, given their talent and schedule - then his carries will probably be reduced somewhat because they will spread the load around to keep people fresh. I´d be happy with anything over 1k rushing and 300 receiving.
July 26, 20241 yr I hate to be the sand in the vaseline, but I've been skeptical from the beginning. Saquon is 27 with 1200 NFL carries and had a torn ACL 4 seasons ago. The notorious "running back age cliff" becomes a factor when a RB turns 28. In 2023, only 13.8% of running back touches were by players 28 or older, and 8.4% were by players 29 or older, so the data says he's at the end of his window of effectiveness. His contract isn't a killer considering the salary cap escalation, but signing an aging free agent running back to a multi-year deal with $26 million in guaranteed money is a complete deviation from the Eagles RB roster strategy since before their Super Bowl year. I hope he dominates, but the data is worrisome.
July 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Hawkeye said: I hate to be the sand in the vaseline, but I've been skeptical from the beginning. Saquon is 27 with 1200 NFL carries and had a torn ACL 4 seasons ago. The notorious "running back age cliff" becomes a factor when a RB turns 28. In 2023, only 13.8% of running back touches were by players 28 or older, and 8.4% were by players 29 or older, so the data says he's at the end of his window of effectiveness. His contract isn't a killer considering the salary cap escalation, but signing an aging free agent running back to a multi-year deal with $26 million in guaranteed money is a complete deviation from the Eagles RB roster strategy since before their Super Bowl year. I hope he dominates, but the data is worrisome. RBs can remain effective well into their early 30s. The thing about the NFL is that teams have found that fresh legs are cheaper. So most teams let their older guys walk so they can save money. When you have a non-elite RB, those are a dime a dozen. When you have a special runner, the decision can be tough to allocate resources there to keep him.
July 27, 20241 yr All comes down to his health. If Saquon can stay healthy, he'll kill it. If not, I still have confidence in the Eagles reserves - including some names that haven't been talked about like Kendall Milton.
July 27, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, Hawkeye said: I hate to be the sand in the vaseline, but I've been skeptical from the beginning. Saquon is 27 with 1200 NFL carries and had a torn ACL 4 seasons ago. The notorious "running back age cliff" becomes a factor when a RB turns 28. In 2023, only 13.8% of running back touches were by players 28 or older, and 8.4% were by players 29 or older, so the data says he's at the end of his window of effectiveness. His contract isn't a killer considering the salary cap escalation, but signing an aging free agent running back to a multi-year deal with $26 million in guaranteed money is a complete deviation from the Eagles RB roster strategy since before their Super Bowl year. I hope he dominates, but the data is worrisome. To some extent, his injury history mitigates some of the data since he has less touches than he otherwise would have had.
July 27, 20241 yr 1300 rushing yards 350 receiving yards 5 tds. QB1 will take away 6-7 of his tds with the tush push
July 28, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, Godfather said: 1300 rushing yards 350 receiving yards 5 tds. QB1 will take away 6-7 of his tds with the tush push Well let’s see… We don’t know how effective the tush push will be this year. And I know that’s kind of crazy to say but teams will have had another offseason to analyse it and we’ve lost Kelce who was really key to it.
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