The biggest takeaway I have from this whole thing is that military promotions are confusing.

Anyone who serves, I respect them for their service. Even if they love couches waaaaaay too much. 

40 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The biggest takeaway I have from this whole thing is that military promotions are confusing.

They are very confusing. In the Navy, you can pass the rating exam, but not get advanced. Or you can pass it and be advanced, but not paid for several months. When I got out of the Navy in 98, we were told transition assistance class, that if we passed a rating exam but was not advanced, we should use the higher rank on our resume. They said that civilians don’t care about our promotion practices, just our job experience. Retirement pay can be just as confusing. 

Is Tua "tag a Viola" in charge of the price gun at a music shop or is he just a fan of The Help?

In other news, Lindy Booth can use my face as a pottery stool.

 

 

Pretty hard to have race riots in a place without any other races Willy. Unless Vikas takes to the streets.

4 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

The biggest takeaway I have from this whole thing is that military promotions are confusing.

Apparently biology is still a stumbling block too

 

 

 

Minnesota teacher pension fund under Walz accused of 'cooking the books' with unrealistic gains: 

'Even Bernie Madoff didn’t claim to beat the market every single year,' private investigator says

14 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

 

 

You eat up everything that serves your narrative. 

Walz said he misspoke about a particular detail. 

Nobody admitted to lying.

Walz has endured these attacks on his military service through his election to the House in a red district, then to the governor's house in Minnesota. 

The minute you care about Vance's flip-flop on Trump as America's Hitler to his VP is the minute I think you'll start to have a shred of intellectual honesty.

johann strauss would love the dem vp candidate lol

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

The minute you care about Vance's flip-flop on Trump as America's Hitler to his VP is the minute I think you'll start to have a shred of intellectual honesty.

🤣🤣🤣

Goddamn that sounds childishly naive. This is CVON, nobody Fing cares.

Mis-speaking in 2004........

3 hours ago, The_Omega said:

 

 

Trump raped a woman and people want him to be President.

Absolutely insane.

13 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Trump raped a woman and people want him to be President.

Absolutely insane.

 

13 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Trump raped a woman and people want him to be President.

Absolutely insane.

However, the lawsuit's conclusion appears to have led some to believe that Trump has been convicted of rape and used that understanding to attack him on social media.

 

You Fing web toed idiot. 

He deployed to Italy as part of enduring freedom - his unit was there to support that mission's operations. It was part of enduring freedom.

He's never claimed to have been in a warzone. 

11 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I read another article and I see that his conditional promotion was effective April 1st, 2005. He retired May 16th, 2005. So 46 calendar days or as a National Guardsman, 1 or maybe 2 drills (2 or maybe 4 duty days). The conditions for promotion weren't fulfilled, of course, so the promotion was cancelled and he reverted back to his correct rank of Master Sergeant.

I had thought that I'd read that he'd actually performed the job of CSM for a more considerable period of time, but maybe I didn't, I didn't realize that it was basically just a few days.

 

I wouldn't call the federalist or Matt beebe an objective source. 

This Twitter account seems to cover it well: 

The above is part of quite a long thread around this. Beebe is specifically very heavily motivated to trash Walz at any price.

 

17 hours ago, Gannan said:

Yes. I listened to her speech in Arizona last night. She's good. You're going to lose. 

We're all destined to lose.

15 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I read another article and I see that his conditional promotion was effective April 1st, 2005. He retired May 16th, 2005. So 46 calendar days or as a National Guardsman, 1 or maybe 2 drills (2 or maybe 4 duty days). The conditions for promotion weren't fulfilled, of course, so the promotion was cancelled and he reverted back to his correct rank of Master Sergeant.

I had thought that I'd read that he'd actually performed the job of CSM for a more considerable period of time, but maybe I didn't, I didn't realize that it was basically just a few days.

 

Do you have a copy of his drill schedule from that time? His unit wasn’t far behind mine on the deployment list. Most NG units stopped being week-end warrors after 9/11. Even though his unit didn’t have their marching orders yet, they were most likely drilling their butts off. Aside from that, he was in the role as CSM at least as far back as September 04. Not years experience, but far from just days. 
 

Im glad he changed his resume to say former CSM, and walked back the carrying a weapon in war comment, but it’s hardly stolen valor. Not even close. 

1 hour ago, sameaglesfan said:

We're all destined to lose.

The Trump alternative will ruin this country forever.

 

 

21 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

 

 

I’d like to see the full context of the comment. He clearly did not say all MN NG members were 19 yr old cooks. The NG was used heavily in support of OEF/OIF, I’d imagine most "highly trained” troops were already deployed, and not available. 

It's amazing to watch the right so fervently denigrate a guy who devoted 24 years to the military, and spent the next 20 years as a public servant with a strong record of advocating for veterans.

But he's a Democrat so I guess they find any wedge they can to justify such appalling behavior. 

If the right was intellectually honest they'd be more pissed at how Vance had tried to weaponize his own service:

 

Vance served honorably and I give him his due credit for that. But he served as a correspondent, and going after a general who was actually wounded in combat and who commanded armies in the ME for political disagreements is far worse than anything he's accusing Walz of being. 

Vance seems to toss around the "stolen valor" term very casually against those he politically disagrees with.

Walz has never claimed to have been in combat, and those who he served most closely with defended him vigorously when he faced similar criticism while running for Congress in 2004. These same servicemen who defended Walz even admitted they do not like or share his politics, but nonetheless we're firm in their resolve that the attacks on Walz and his character were out of line. 

Unfortunately the world is a different place in 2024, and Republicans are far less motivated by character and ethics. They're stuck in a flight 93 election death loop, and with every election their party gets more insane. And the cognitive dissonance causes Republicans who stick by the party to go further down the rabbit hole. 

8 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I wouldn't call the federalist or Matt beebe an objective source. 

I really don't follow politics or all of that all that closely, so I don't know what sources are objective or not. But dates don't really require objectivity, provided they're correct.