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8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I think that’s completely fair. But if those pressures can lead to misplaced passes or allowing our coverage to do its job then I guess that’s enough.

Yeah he’s going to get doubled so much which is a shame because there’s nobody he’s opening up opportunities for. Usually if a DT is getting doubled it opens things up for a DE to go one on one but there’s nobody we can rely on. 

Why, all of a sudden, can't we rely on Sweat? His sacks were down last season, but he had career highs in hurries and pressures. There were at least two intentional grounding calls made that would have been Sweat sacks last season --- same result for the team as a sack. Graham can still play and he's capable of generating pressure on the outside. Huff is an unknown to many of us, but he has produced as a pass rusher in the NFL. N. Smith and Hunt are the unproven guys at this point. 

 

I still think people need to throw out last week simply because of the grass alone. On top of that, Love only held the ball for an average of 2.8 seconds and most sacks take longer than that. There was also an abnormal amount of holding not called last week as the NFL wanted to emphasize illegal formation.

It's been one game.

18 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah he’s going to get doubled so much which is a shame because there’s nobody he’s opening up opportunities for. Usually if a DT is getting doubled it opens things up for a DE to go one on one but there’s nobody we can rely on. 

Just another reason we should have kept Reddick. 

On 9/14/2024 at 4:34 PM, brkmsn said:

Why, all of a sudden, can't we rely on Sweat?

Completely fair point. I guess because Sweat is, and has been, a decent DE but I think his snap load has to be managed due to his knee and the way he fell off last year? But I appreciate the entire team fell off a cliff  last year.

 

On 9/14/2024 at 4:46 PM, ilikepargo said:

It's been one game.

It has yes and so we shouldn’t be in a full on panic right now… but we also have to recognise that what we saw last Friday was what we feared during the offseason so the concerns are not without reason.

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Completely fair point. I guess because Sweat is, and has been, a decent DE but I think his snap load has to be managed due to his knee and the way he fell off last year? But I appreciate the entire team fell off a cliff  last year.

 

It has yes and so we shouldn’t be in a full on panic right now… but we also have to recognise that what we saw last Friday was what we feared during the offseason so the concerns are not without reason.

I'm not worried about his knee, anymore than anybody else's. 

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It appears Sweat will get about 60% of the snaps and Graham about 40%. One thing, though, that people never really bring into the conversation about the Eagles' pass rush in 2023 is the overall poor play by the secondary. That played a huge part in the lack of sacks late. 

3 hours ago, brkmsn said:

I'm not worried about his knee, anymore than anybody else's. 

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JOSH SWEAT INJURIES

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2020
16
Wrist
Out
2018
10
Hip
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It appears Sweat will get about 60% of the snaps and Graham about 40%. One thing, though, that people never really bring into the conversation about the Eagles' pass rush in 2023 is the overall poor play by the secondary. That played a huge part in the lack of sacks late. 

Why people keep bringing up his knees when he hasn't missed a single game because of his knees is beyond me. 

7 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Why people keep bringing up his knees when he hasn't missed a single game because of his knees is beyond me. 

I know he wears a brace, but he's comfortable with it on. I think most linemen should wear the braces for extra protection, but that's just an opinion. 

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

I know he wears a brace, but he's comfortable with it on. I think most linemen should wear the braces for extra protection, but that's just an opinion. 

Thats true and i know he had knee issues in college but, its been a non issue so far in the pros. 

Still looking.  :furious:

Was there a Nolan Smith sighting anywhere tonight ? I sure didnt see it.

 

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Sacks, what's that ??????

2 hours ago, Jeep_man said:

Was there a Nolan Smith sighting anywhere tonight

I saw him… do nothing but I did see #3 out there.

I'm getting concerned now. 

Seemingly no pressure from fangio and no players capable of it.

When the qb trips and falls. Thats about the only way they can even touch the opposing qb.

2 hours ago, rrfierce said:

I'm getting concerned now. 

Seemingly no pressure from fangio and no players capable of it.

I think we have every right to be concerned now! This pass rush is simply offering nothing.

Huff has been underwhelming. I think he was the best 'pass rusher' on the market, but he has only had one season with double digit sacks and that was last year with 10. I think he was in a rotation so the expectation was more play time will equal more sacks. He also had the benefit of being on a D with one of the best young corners in the game and some legit line backers. He is 26 and it has only been 2 games, but for a guy that was supposed to come in and impact right away he has been poor. 

Sweat the should have offloaded in the off-season. He is a 4-3 DE and now he is trying to play on the edge. 2022 is the outlier in his career, he doesn't look like he can be a double digit sack guy and needs to be in a rotation because with the increase in snaps his production went down. 

They really need Smith to step up and show something in year 2

Can we get Derek Barnett back?

On 9/7/2024 at 2:59 PM, rrfierce said:

Think edge will be our first round pick next year. 

It should be the first two picks. They'll need to replace Sweat and Graham. Nolan Smith doesn't appear to be the long-term answer and neither does Bryce Huff.

Certainly not from Davis and Smith. They suck

Davis was never picked for his pass rushing acumen. The expectation is not for him to have high sack numbers. He is a nose tackle that needs to be a force in the run game and if he can collapse the pocket and help the edge guys out that is a bonus. They were gashed by the run, although a lot of it was away from Davis to the outside. The Falcons were able to expose them on the edge and that is a worry. 

29 minutes ago, Mat said:

Davis was never picked for his pass rushing acumen. The expectation is not for him to have high sack numbers. He is a nose tackle that needs to be a force in the run game and if he can collapse the pocket and help the edge guys out that is a bonus. They were gashed by the run, although a lot of it was away from Davis to the outside. The Falcons were able to expose them on the edge and that is a worry. 

Davis hasn’t been much of a factor nor consistent in the run game either though and that’s part of the problem. They traded up for him so he needs to be more than a run stuffer and yet he’s not even that right now.

Howie's decisions at DL have been poor.  Smith can't play and Huff evidently can't play in our scheme for some reason.  Sweat will leave in free agency and Graham will retire.  That leaves nothing at DE next year.  This organization can not assess college DEs at all.  I don't trust Howie to be able to rebuild the front 7.   

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Davis hasn’t been much of a factor nor consistent in the run game either though and that’s part of the problem. They traded up for him so he needs to be more than a run stuffer and yet he’s not even that right now.

He's playing like a 4th or 5th round NT

14 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Davis hasn’t been much of a factor nor consistent in the run game either though and that’s part of the problem. They traded up for him so he needs to be more than a run stuffer and yet he’s not even that right now.

His push allowed CJGJ to get the 4th down stop. The Falcons killed the Eagles with outside zone runs. He isn't going to look as dominant in the run game when they're running away from him. It just further highlights how bad the guys outside have played 

Where is our run defense coming from? The Falcons controlled the LOS all game and gashed the Eagles. The Packers were averaging about 8 yards a carry too. The pass rush is absolutely a problem, but the run defense looks to be just as big of one.

Honest answer to the original question- NOWHERE.

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