I can't help but feel that Howie has set us up for success with the personnel moves and acquisitions, but my GOD, the coaching is horrific.

Aren't Lurie and Howie seething inside by now?

Yank Siriani now while there's time to salvage the season, as he will absolutely lose the team down the stretch... again.

Good grief.

Another win ... another whine ...

Sirianni 👎

39 minutes ago, heavyharmonies said:

I can't help but feel that Howie has set us up for success with the personnel moves and acquisitions, but my GOD, the coaching is horrific.

Aren't Lurie and Howie seething inside by now?

Yank Siriani now while there's time to salvage the season, as he will absolutely lose the team down the stretch... again.

Good grief.

Howie and Lurie put this all together so to tear it down would mean they were both wrong. 

48 minutes ago, heavyharmonies said:

I can't help but feel that Howie has set us up for success with the personnel moves and acquisitions, but my GOD, the coaching is horrific.

Aren't Lurie and Howie seething inside by now?

Yank Siriani now while there's time to salvage the season, as he will absolutely lose the team down the stretch... again.

Good grief.

Dude - why do you feel the need for a hook to get people to look at your thread?  Just say what its about it in the title.

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

Another win ... another whine ...

It might be but OP does have a point here. The coaching from Sirianni has been awful. They won tonight in spite of him.

Sirianni is f’in horrible. We easily could be 1-2 with his BS. He can call and override any call. This analytics crap is getting real out of hand. You go for it on 4 in high scoring games where defense can’t be trusted. The tush push is not what it used to be. Leaving points on the board on a 3-0 low scoring game and the fourth down gambles look bad. He took responsibility for 1 today. I have hated the high school football rah rah and stupid slogans and the 5 core fundamental rhetoric since DAY 1. This team is lazy, coddled, undisciplined, sloppy, and it starts with him. 
 

former players didn’t like Belichick because he always had them running laps and do conditioning. Don’t you think we’d would be sloppy and lazy with Bill Belichick as the HC?

47 minutes ago, MrFadedGlory said:

Sirianni is f’in horrible. We easily could be 1-2 with his BS. He can call and override any call. This analytics crap is getting real out of hand. You go for it on 4 in high scoring games where defense can’t be trusted. The tush push is not what it used to be. Leaving points on the board on a 3-0 low scoring game and the fourth down gambles look bad. He took responsibility for 1 today. I have hated the high school football rah rah and stupid slogans and the 5 core fundamental rhetoric since DAY 1. This team is lazy, coddled, undisciplined, sloppy, and it starts with him. 
 

former players didn’t like Belichick because he always had them running laps and do conditioning. Don’t you think we’d would be sloppy and lazy with Bill Belichick as the HC?

With 15 seconds to go under those circumstances, you never go for it. Even if you make it and burn your last TO with 10 seconds left, you have 1 play in the end zone and can’t risk Hurts getting sacked. 

What I'm hearing is that Siri is actually circumventing the analytics boards in some cases to make these overrides.  I think firing him only creates drama that we don't need right now.  That being said, it is absolutely reasonable to forbid him from ever calling a play again. 

And I do mean ever. 

Sirianni will be why this team does not go far this year. He needs to be fired. 

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

What I'm hearing is that Siri is actually circumventing the analytics boards in some cases to make these overrides.  I think firing him only creates drama that we don't need right now.  That being said, it is absolutely reasonable to forbid him from ever calling a play again. 

And I do mean ever. 

Keeping him and his stubbornness does nothing but prolong the problem. So then we will get embarrassed when it really matters later on. 

35 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

Keeping him and his stubbornness does nothing but prolong the problem. So then we will get embarrassed when it really matters later on. 

Couldn’t agree more. I think he seems like a good guy. I think he takes accountability and I like some of what he says at times but he’s not a good HC. In games he’s just not good.

16 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Another win ... another whine ...

So you're cool with just a repeat of last season? Cause that's what this team is on course for. 

25 minutes ago, devpool said:

So you're cool with just a repeat of last season? Cause that's what this team is on course for. 

He's got to protect his boy at all cost

1 hour ago, MagicMoment said:

Keeping him and his stubbornness does nothing but prolong the problem. So then we will get embarrassed when it really matters later on. 

 

40 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Couldn’t agree more. I think he seems like a good guy. I think he takes accountability and I like some of what he says at times but he’s not a good HC. In games he’s just not good.

They knew all this at the end of last year and still decided to keep him.  Word on the street was that they kept him because the players liked him and that he was a good cheerleader.  If they have now given him (or he has taken) the keys to play calling, then they obviously need to reel that back in.  

My point is, if he was kept to be a motivator and a cheerleader then let him do that and only that.  Firing him mid season would only create a rift in team morale and we saw how that worked out last season.   

Also, Fangio isn't exactly a players coach.  Having Nick around to coddle fragile egos on defense might not be such a bad thing.  

17 hours ago, Procus said:

Dude - why do you feel the need for a hook to get people to look at your thread?  Just say what its about it in the title.

I know right? Who does that?!

A real sicko

2 hours ago, The Norseman said:

 

They knew all this at the end of last year and still decided to keep him.  Word on the street was that they kept him because the players liked him and that he was a good cheerleader.  If they have now given him (or he has taken) the keys to play calling, then they obviously need to reel that back in.  

My point is, if he was kept to be a motivator and a cheerleader then let him do that and only that.  Firing him mid season would only create a rift in team morale and we saw how that worked out last season.   

Also, Fangio isn't exactly a players coach.  Having Nick around to coddle fragile egos on defense might not be such a bad thing.  

I mean maybe? At this point I think we should find out because I think he’s going to cost us in the big spots I really do.

Big Dom could make a better head coach.

If Sirianni has a thought, we should always do the opposite.

20 hours ago, devpool said:

So you're cool with just a repeat of last season? Cause that's what this team is on course for. 

Imagine airing concerns or discussing things on a forum built for discussion.

People get bent out of shape unless you're constantly wearing midnight green glasses.

Seems it's hard for people to understand that you can both want the team to succeed and have an issue with how they're playing.

18 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean maybe? At this point I think we should find out because I think he’s going to cost us in the big spots I really do.

If he keeps calling plays, yea.  Howie and Laurie need to violently yank any play calling responsibilities back this week.  If they won't fire him and allow him to keep calling plays, then they deserve everything they get.  

47 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

If he keeps calling plays, yea.  Howie and Laurie need to violently yank any play calling responsibilities back this week.  If they won't fire him and allow him to keep calling plays, then they deserve everything they get.  

Oh absolutely! They need to reign him back in otherwise it’ll cost us big at some point in the coming months. But this is the problem they created for themselves when they decided to keep him on.

22 hours ago, The Norseman said:

 

They knew all this at the end of last year and still decided to keep him.  Word on the street was that they kept him because the players liked him and that he was a good cheerleader.  If they have now given him (or he has taken) the keys to play calling, then they obviously need to reel that back in.  

My point is, if he was kept to be a motivator and a cheerleader then let him do that and only that.  Firing him mid season would only create a rift in team morale and we saw how that worked out last season.   

Also, Fangio isn't exactly a players coach.  Having Nick around to coddle fragile egos on defense might not be such a bad thing.  

If you are keeping a head coach to only be a motivator and cheerleader you’ve got serious problems. 

23 hours ago, NOTW said:

I know right? Who does that?!

A real sicko

And your testimony is there was no real sicko?  That's what you're rolling with?

On 9/22/2024 at 5:27 PM, MrFadedGlory said:

Sirianni is f’in horrible. We easily could be 1-2 with his BS. He can call and override any call. This analytics crap is getting real out of hand. You go for it on 4 in high scoring games where defense can’t be trusted. The tush push is not what it used to be. Leaving points on the board on a 3-0 low scoring game and the fourth down gambles look bad. He took responsibility for 1 today. I have hated the high school football rah rah and stupid slogans and the 5 core fundamental rhetoric since DAY 1. This team is lazy, coddled, undisciplined, sloppy, and it starts with him. 
 

former players didn’t like Belichick because he always had them running laps and do conditioning. Don’t you think we’d would be sloppy and lazy with Bill Belichick as the HC?

We're also 1 dropped pass away from being 3-0. I'm not defending Sirianni, but execution is just as important as strategy. 

On another note, Bellichick had poor results as a HC both before and after Tom Brady. TB was the guy who made him a legend