On 1/2/2026 at 8:32 PM, ToastJenkins said:

Iran would probably be worth it but Trump wont get permission from Vlad

Worth it like Iraq was? 🤣🤣🤣

On 1/3/2026 at 8:25 AM, TEW said:

Regime change is coming, there will be no boots on the ground, Iran will be liberated, and crap libs will be big mad.

😂🫵🤡

You need to add a mirror to that moronic BS you’re spouting. It’s almost like you clowns never heard of OEF and OIF.

On 1/3/2026 at 7:58 PM, Procus said:

People like Gannan are Putin's puppets and side with the mullahs, not the people

Because he doesn’t want another forever war in the Middle East? You can’t made this idiotic BS up.

On 1/4/2026 at 1:06 PM, Gannan said:

You mean Irany.

3 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Worth it like Iraq was? 🤣🤣🤣

Very different regimes and no one said it was, but go With whatever strawman makes you feel

Good

8 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Very different regimes and no one said it was, but go With whatever strawman makes you feel

Good

Yeah, it will different this time. You war mongering morons never learn.

5 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Yeah, it will different this time. You war mongering morons never learn.

The last two times was because we were spread too thin.

If we had just OEF it would have been a different story.

11 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Worth it like Iraq was? 🤣🤣🤣

I don't mecessarily disagree with the sentiment on Iraq but Iran may be one of those random opportunities that you just have to take advantage of when it comes up.

2 hours ago, Bill said:

The last two times was because we were spread too thin.

If we had just OEF it would have been a different story.

I believe OEF would have been a CF on its own. They were pretty much cooking the books the entire time. In hindsight, I believe both OPS were unnecessary.

12 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

I believe OEF would have been a CF on its own. They were pretty much cooking the books the entire time. In hindsight, I believe both OPS were unnecessary.

We didn't even have a full two years of OEF until OIF started. Once OIF started, the onus was on trying to leave instead of trying to get the job done.

The cluster was on letting State and the intel community run more of the show than they should have. Everything should have gone through the DoD and every other entity sat in the back and gave directions when required instead of them being backseat drivers.

So what are you all even arguing about right now? I think everyone agrees regime change in Iran is good right? So are we arguing boots on the ground? Intelligence and weapon support? Non intervention entirely?

The Iranian people have to overthrow their own regime. If we can help them do that without putting American lives at risk, that would be a good thing. Do I trust Trump who wasn't bright to begin with and now clearly in full on dementia, and a pickled Pete Hegseth to get that right? Absolutely not.

31 minutes ago, Gannan said:

The Iranian people have to overthrow their own regime. If we can help them do that without putting American lives at risk, that would be a good thing. Do I trust Trump who wasn't bright to begin with and now clearly in full on dementia, and a pickled Pete Hegseth to get that right? Absolutely not.

Kinda where I'm at. The current regime isn't Mossadegh so we can't exactly compare the 2 situations directly. But still I gotta imagine it'll be tough for Iranians to love any direct US intervention given our history of regime change there. At the very least I think we have to let them choose their own leaders at the end of this instead of trying to strongarm in a pro-US guy in there. Iran was one of if not the most Western-style nations in the region. Let diplomatic relations develop organically, or risk setting up another corrupt target for extremists

51 minutes ago, Gannan said:

The Iranian people have to overthrow their own regime. If we can help them do that without putting American lives at risk, that would be a good thing. Do I trust Trump who wasn't bright to begin with and now clearly in full on dementia, and a pickled Pete Hegseth to get that right? Absolutely not.

Trump is a great political opportunist and he's trying desperately to create a narrative where he can be the fascist and also the anti fascist. So yeah, expect him once again to swoop in, get the dramatic photo op of toppling another horrible regime and then scamper out the back door and stumble into his next disaster just as things unfold for the worse in Iran.

rinse , wash , repeat with this guy.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

So what are you all even arguing about right now? I think everyone agrees regime change in Iran is good right? So are we arguing boots on the ground? Intelligence and weapon support? Non intervention entirely?

My argument is against anything that has to do with "boots on the ground,” or major bombing campaigns that mostly kill civilians. I’m good with intelligence and weapons support similar to how we have been supporting Ukraine. I guess the big trick is picking the right horse to back. I admit that I don’t know enough know who that horse is, or if there is one worth backing.

On 1/11/2026 at 12:55 PM, Tnt4philly said:

My argument is against anything that has to do with "boots on the ground,” or major bombing campaigns that mostly kill civilians. I’m good with intelligence and weapons support similar to how we have been supporting Ukraine. I guess the big trick is picking the right horse to back. I admit that I don’t know enough know who that horse is, or if there is one worth backing.

Agreed, if there is no CIA contract with the insurgency, there’s no way the US can support the uprising. Need someone inside the military ot rebel group we can support,

Oh boy…..

Associated Press

Trump cancels meetings with Iranian officials and tells protesters 'help is on its way'

On 1/3/2026 at 7:58 PM, Procus said:

People like Gannan are Putin's puppets and side with the mullahs, not the people

you suck at trolling which is very on brand for you considering you suck at everything else in life.

congrats on your undefeated streak, champ.

America First! World Police!

On 1/11/2026 at 11:08 AM, DEagle7 said:

So what are you all even arguing about right now? I think everyone agrees regime change in Iran is good right? So are we arguing boots on the ground? Intelligence and weapon support? Non intervention entirely?

MAGA voted for America first

When are they going to tell us how many of the over 2k killed were driving their vehicles near Iranian soldiers and deserved to die? Surely this will impact the decision making.

The Internet blackout makes this all so much worse. We have (relatively) very little information of what's going on in the ground right now, which is terrifying when you've got extremist leaders desperately trying to cling to power. We're all taking for granted that these demonstrations will overthrow the regime but this just as easily could turn into a massacre.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

The Internet blackout makes this all so much worse. We have (relatively) very little information of what's going on in the ground right now, which is terrifying when you've got extremist leaders desperately trying to cling to power. We're all taking for granted that these demonstrations will overthrow the regime but this just as easily could turn into a massacre.

i thought agent orange told the protesters (who have no way of knowing he said anything) that we're on the way?

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