1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Legal weed in MD on July 1st

nice, my mountain place is pretty close to the pa/md border, maybe there will be a store closer there than driving to mechanicsburg. 

On 6/14/2023 at 3:54 PM, DaEagles4Life said:

The only thing that people said was safer than marijuana was technology, which only 23 percent described as very or somewhat unsafe.

I wouldn't really compare the two side by side, as one is a substance that you smoke/ingest and the other isn't, so it's more of an apples/carbon fiber deep sea submersible sort of comparison. In that comparison though, I actually might tend to rank technology (specifically social media and smart phones) as more unsafe, at least for kids and young adults. 

Pa Dems control the Legislature. Pass a bill already. 

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

nice, my mountain place is pretty close to the pa/md border, maybe there will be a store closer there than driving to mechanicsburg. 

In the 40's my grandfather built a cabin in his back yard and section by section, trucked it up to the mountains (Deep Creek Maryland) where they'd all go hunting. I only actually got to go there once, when I was about 5 (1974), which I still vividly remember.

Unfortunately, after my grandfather had a heart attack not long after that visit, everyone stopped going up to it and it fell into disrepair pretty badly. It was still there as of 3 or 4 years ago but one of my brothers was up near there a month or so ago and it's now been torn down. 

1 minute ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

In the 40's my grandfather built a cabin in his back yard and section by section, trucked it up to the mountains (Deep Creek Maryland) where they'd all go hunting. I only actually got to go there once, when I was about 5 (1974), which I still vividly remember.

Unfortunately, after my grandfather had a heart attack not long after that visit, everyone stopped going up to it and it fell into disrepair pretty badly. It was still there as of 3 or 4 years ago but one of my brothers was up near there a month or so ago and it's now been torn down. 

was it set up with well and septic or strictly rustic ? 

15 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

was it set up with well and septic or strictly rustic ? 

When it was built, it was just a cabin in the woods with two bedrooms, a kitchen and a small sitting area that you might call a 'family room' or 'living room'. No bathroom was ever built, there was an outhouse. At some point, my grandfather being a master plumber, ran water to it for the kitchen. Before that, it was a hand pumped well that provided water. 

So, pretty rustic lol. But at 5 years old, it was a great adventure, though needing to go to the outhouse at 9PM in the mountains wasn't really an adventure for a 5 year old. More like a Freddy Kruger nightmare lol. 

14 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

When it was built, it was just a cabin in the woods with two bedrooms, a kitchen and a small sitting area that you might call a 'family room' or 'living room'. No bathroom was ever built, there was an outhouse. At some point, my grandfather being a master plumber, ran water to it for the kitchen. Before that, it was a hand pumped well that provided water. 

So, pretty rustic lol. But at 5 years old, it was a great adventure, though needing to go to the outhouse at 9PM in the mountains wasn't really an adventure for a 5 year old. More like a Freddy Kruger nightmare lol. 

awesome memories man.

 

my parents had a cabin outside of richboro on bryan's farm. it had power but no water. we would get it from the farmers house. learned to fish on neshaminy creek there. 

they also had a mountain place in west stuban county ny. the pa border (potter county) was at the end of the neighboring property. just a 40ft camper siting on it. while it was nice, there was no running water and no power. so we had generator which he got converted to propane and luckily our property had a nice spring close by so we would go fill up old milk containers and the sun shower bag, cause my dad was not handy enough to hook up plumbing. 

i grew up in philly but spent most of my spring-to fall weekends (until football season started) at the cabin and four weeks of every summer up the mountains. 

i was lucky where i had the chance to experience both worlds. plus i used to supply olney pet shop with their toads and garter snakes so i made some coin while i was up there too.  

 

47 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

was it set up with well and septic or strictly rustic ? 

These are from 1958, in one I can see electrical wires running to it, so it had electricity (which I couldn't remember if it had it or not). In the other, you can see the outhouse back behind it. 

Like I mentioned, my grandfather built it in his back yard (not far from the University of Maryland), and trucked it up to the mountains section by section until it was finished. 

Of course, none of this has anything to do with legalizing marijuana but oh well lol.

 

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1 minute ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

These are from 1958, in one I can see electrical wires running to it, so it had electricity (which I couldn't remember if it had it or not). In the other, you can see the outhouse back behind it. 

Like I mentioned, my grandfather built it in his back yard (not far from the University of Maryland), and trucked it up to the mountains section by section until it was finished. 

Of course, none of this has anything to do with legalizing marijuana but oh well lol.

 

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that is awesome. 

 

hey, marijuana has a way of bringing people together and sharing memories. 

 

the only thing missing right now is a table full of munchies. 

6 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

the only thing missing right now is a table full of munchies. 

I won't post them, but I have pictures of dead deer that were hunted back then too, so that could count. lol

6 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I won't post them, but I have pictures of dead deer that were hunted back then too, so that could count. lol

well, there is a fishing/hunting thread in the "other sports" forum .....

I just spotted a nice store in Traverse City, MI where I'll be next Friday for a few nights

Research on Psychedelics, Marijuana as Alternative Treatment for Vets Advancing in Congress

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/06/28/research-psychedelics-marijuana-alternative-treatment-vets-advancing-congress.html?ESRC=eb_230629.nl&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eb&utm_campaign=20230629

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Psychedelic drugs and marijuana could be evaluated as treatments for post-traumatic disorder and other conditions afflicting veterans under bills advancing through Congress.

The version of the annual defense policy bill approved by the House Armed Services Committee last week would require the Pentagon to conduct a clinical trial on treating service members' PTSD, traumatic brain injury and chronic traumatic encephalopathy with drugs including MDMA, commonly called ecstasy, and psilocybin, the psychedelic compound found in magic mushrooms.

The defense bill, called the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, would also require the Pentagon and Department of Veterans Affairs to study the effects of marijuana use in service members and veterans with PTSD, depression, anxiety or chronic pain.

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Meanwhile, the Senate Appropriations Committee is using its annual VA spending bill to encourage, but not require, the VA to help with privately funded research on the use of psychedelics to treat PTSD and depression.

Including the measures in the must-pass bills signals a growing interest from both parties in finding alternative treatments for conditions that have been seen as signature injuries in the 9/11-era wars. But the bills still have several hurdles to overcome before passing into law, including continued skepticism in the wider GOP conference about legislation that could lead to easing restrictions on currently illegal substances.

The marijuana and psychedelic provisions in the NDAA were added to the bill with no debate last week as part of a bipartisan vote to add a package of amendments considered noncontroversial to the bill. Both were sponsored by Republicans, with Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina proposing the marijuana amendment and Navy SEAL veteran Rep. Morgan Luttrell of Texas proposing the psychedelics one.

At a news conference earlier this month, Luttrell said he underwent psychedelic-assisted therapy in a foreign country after his marriage and personal relationships suffered from anger issues he developed when he left the military. Luttrell said his treatment included ibogaine and DMT, which would both be studied by his amendment in addition to ecstasy and mushrooms.

"I can honestly stand in front of all of you and the American public and say I was reborn," Luttrell said. "This changed my life. It saved my marriage. It is one of the greatest things that ever happened to me."

But despite the backing from veterans in Congress, legislation to research marijuana and psychedelics has still struggled to get across the finish line in recent years.

Last year's House-passed NDAA included a similar proposal to research marijuana and psychedelics, but it was taken out of the final bill that became law after negotiations with the Senate.

And earlier this year, a bill to require the VA to conduct a study of veterans who use marijuana and have chronic pain or PTSD to see how the drug affects their health failed in the Senate. Despite the bill unanimously advancing out of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, Republican senators outside the committee derided the idea of treating veterans with marijuana.

Now Senate appropriators are also trying again to allow the VA to recommend medical marijuana to patients in states where it is legal.

Currently, the VA is prohibited from recommending, prescribing or paying for marijuana, though department policy allows for discussion about marijuana use between VA providers and patients. Still, advocates say the drug's ambiguous legal status leaves veterans feeling stigmatized and uncomfortable discussing it with their doctors.

Last week, the Senate Appropriations Committee approved an amendment to the 2024 VA spending bill to allow a "health care provider of the department to make appropriate recommendations, fill out forms or take steps to comply" with state medical marijuana programs. Similar amendments have been approved by the committee in previous years but have not made it into the final appropriations bills that became law.

"Outdated laws should never censor veterans' doctor-patient relationships," Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., the amendment's sponsor, said in a statement last week. "Thirty-seven states now have legal cannabis programs, and it is unacceptable to treat veterans as second-class citizens and force them to find a different doctor to simply ask questions and seek treatment if they choose to access state legal medical cannabis programs."

The Senate Appropriations Committee also expressed interest in studying psychedelic drugs but did not go as far as the NDAA in mandating a study. A VA official testified to Congress last year that the department was "very, very closely" monitoring private research on psychedelics but stressed that the VA is not funding the research.

"The committee recognizes the increased interest in studying psychedelic therapies and their potential therapeutic effects for veterans," the Appropriations Committee wrote in the nonbinding report accompanying the spending bill. "The committee encourages VA to explore opportunities to assist with privately-funded research programs to evaluate the efficacy of psychedelic therapies in treating PTSD, major depressive disorder, and other serious mental health conditions."

-- Rebecca Kheel can be reached at rebecca.kheel@military.com. Follow her on Twitter @reporterkheel.

Related: VA Marijuana Research Bill, Other Vets Measures 'May All Be Dead' After Failed Senate Vote, Chairman Says

 

11 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

I just spotted a nice store in Traverse City, MI where I'll be next Friday for a few nights

i forgot it's recreational up there. i'm trying to get out there next month for roadkill nights. 

2 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i forgot it's recreational up there. i'm trying to get out there next month for roadkill nights. 

Had to look that up

On 6/28/2023 at 1:21 PM, jsdarkstar said:

Pa Dems control the Legislature. Pass a bill already. 

For as laid back as most of you pot heads are, you certainly can be impatient.

On 5/31/2023 at 5:14 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

As a bit of an update on my situation, since I've spoken about it here previously... my mother's weight in early February had dropped down to 99.6 lbs. After a concerted effort and the use of appetite inducing items (mostly in pill form, as opposed to gummies or tincture), today at the oncologist's office she was 114.4 lbs. (that's up 2 lbs from just a week ago). So that's a huge victory. I told her, "Next stop, 120!" 

115.6 now. It's a slow process, but it's going in the right direction. 

KD is a known pot head 

Headline on Bloomberg

 

 

Should be descheduled altogether 

"Marijuana should be regulated like tomatoes.” 

POTX, which I lost a bundle on and am just holding onto for the lulz, might actually come back. 

Legislation sets path for recreational marijuana in Pa.

• By
• Ben Wasserstein, WITF
• July 26, 2023

https://whyy.org/articles/legislation-sets-path-for-recreational-marijuana/

Pennsylvanians could be smoking a different plant should new legislation legalizing recreational cannabis become law.

 

A bill  sponsored by Sens. Dan Laughlin, R-Erie, and Sharif Street, D-Philadelphia, would legalize marijuana, but for Laughlin, marijuana has been effectively legal since medical marijuana was legalized in 2015.

"In my opinion, Pennsylvania legalized adult-use cannabis when they legalized the medical program in 2015,” Laughlin said. "I think anybody that is involved in this space at all knows that it’s not difficult to get a medical card. Although it is a step that, you would have to take where you wouldn’t if we just had adult-use recreational.”

The Independent Fiscal Office estimates the change would generate anywhere from $400 million to upwards of $1 billion a year in tax revenue.

The bill would also expunge criminal records of low-level cannabis offenders, Laughlin said.

All modes of cannabis consumption would be legalized.

DeVaugh Ward, senior legislative counsel at the Marijuana Policy Project, says the bill is a step in the right direction.

"We look at the bill as a positive, as a net positive, to be able to stop incarcerating folks for cannabis use is, you know, one of the primary goals of the marijuana policy project,” Ward said.

In 2021, the most recent data available, over 13,000 people were arrested for marijuana possession,

The Senate will review the bill when it returns in September.

Anybody try one of those crush vape carts you can legally buy in gas stations? I was a regular every day smoker for years and recently had to quit for 5 months due to a change in jobs.Anyhow long story short I’m able to smoke again. I was told that these vape carts were pretty legit. I had serious doubts but bought one to try.needless to say I’m impressed. Other than a pretty harsh taste and that fact that my tolerance level has to be low after 5 months . This stuff gave me a familiar feeling that I dearly missed.how is this legal ?