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We are 14-1!!!!!!!! When we run the ball more than throw the ball under Siri.

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Looking at this stat is mostly meaningless without a lot more information and context.  When you're ahead, you run the ball more, especially at the end of games.  So logic would tell you that you probably are going to have a winning record when you're running more, because you're most likely ahead in the game anyway.

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5 hours ago, Dweedlebug said:

Looking at this stat is mostly meaningless without a lot more information and context.  When you're ahead, you run the ball more, especially at the end of games.  So logic would tell you that you probably are going to have a winning record when you're running more, because you're most likely ahead in the game anyway.

Yep, this stat famously skews to the winning team for obvious reasons. That said, as an Eagles fan, I'm always on board with the suggestion to run the ball more.

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On 10/23/2024 at 1:11 PM, Dweedlebug said:

Looking at this stat is mostly meaningless without a lot more information and context.  When you're ahead, you run the ball more, especially at the end of games.  So logic would tell you that you probably are going to have a winning record when you're running more, because you're most likely ahead in the game anyway.

Indeed - even kneel downs count as runs. And when you are far behind you have to pass.

I’m on board with running the ball more, especially while Mailata is out (do not trust FJ in pass protection). Barkley is special, but we need to keep him fresh and can’t just pound him 25 - 30 times a game. Sometimes the running game doesn’t work (see Cleveland) and we need to use our really good receivers as well.

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On 10/23/2024 at 8:11 AM, Dweedlebug said:

Looking at this stat is mostly meaningless without a lot more information and context.  When you're ahead, you run the ball more, especially at the end of games.  So logic would tell you that you probably are going to have a winning record when you're running more, because you're most likely ahead in the game anyway.

This is true, but running the ball more also allows the offense to gain a rhythm too. Two carries could get a team into third and manageable. One incompletion could set the stage for third and long. I don’t think this team puts itself in a good position throwing it 35 plus times a game. The start of the Giants game they came in trying to throw and it led to a lot of bad plays and punts. They really didn’t get a hold of this game until they started to run the ball consistently. When this team runs the ball consistently they tend to win. When they try to get cute and throw-throw-throw, the games often tend to be a lot closer than they need to be or lead to heartbreaking losses or blowouts.  How many times do we see this offense go two out of three plays are passes early in a drive leading to a three and out only to see this defense have to either save the day or get dog walked early like the Buccaneers did to them. I say run the ball and build up some play action. It’s a lot harder to throw over the middle when the defense knows you’re always throwing it.

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On 10/24/2024 at 11:38 PM, EazyEaglez said:

This is true, but running the ball more also allows the offense to gain a rhythm too. Two carries could get a team into third and manageable. One incompletion could set the stage for third and long. I don’t think this team puts itself in a good position throwing it 35 plus times a game.

This team I think is set up to be a run heavy team. I think they just need to accept that. They have a premier RB with a top OL. They also have a QB who’s a factor in the run game and they have decent back up RB options. 

That doesn’t mean they can’t and shouldn’t throw it. Some weeks they should throw more than they run and they’ll need to in order to win the NFL. But they can use the run to set that up.

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23 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

This team I think is set up to be a run heavy team. I think they just need to accept that. They have a premier RB with a top OL. They also have a QB who’s a factor in the run game and they have decent back up RB options. 

That doesn’t mean they can’t and shouldn’t throw it. Some weeks they should throw more than they run and they’ll need to in order to win the NFL. But they can use the run to set that up.

Also their offensive line isn’t so go with two starters out especially at LT. Their best bet is to run the football, but let’s see if they follow. If they aren’t going to run then they better make more short to intermediate pass plays. 

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3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Also their offensive line isn’t so go with two starters out especially at LT. Their best bet is to run the football, but let’s see if they follow. If they aren’t going to run then they better make more short to intermediate pass plays. 

Yeah the short to intermediate pass game is basically nonexistent and that needs to change. We can’t continue to rely on the big plays.

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Another reason to be a run first team. Barkley, Gainwell, and Shipley can get it done. It minimizes the chances that Hurts blows the gsme with a turnover lol.

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12 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah the short to intermediate pass game is basically nonexistent and that needs to change. We can’t continue to rely on the big plays.

This game they did a lot of everything. They went short, long and intermediate. They stuck with the run and they pounded the Bengals into submission. The pressure was consistent today. They blitzed a lot! The turnovers finally came. It was a complete victory today. 

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4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

This game they did a lot of everything. They went short, long and intermediate. They stuck with the run and they pounded the Bengals into submission. The pressure was consistent today. They blitzed a lot! The turnovers finally came. It was a complete victory today. 

Has to be the most complete game that we put on the  field in a long,!!! long time. We dominated Cincinnati , unlike so many previous games that were decided in the last several minutes of the game, and Eagles  were barely hanging on.

I dream Big ,if can have a similar energy and results against Washington. 

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1 hour ago, Traveler Vic said:

Has to be the most complete game that we put on the  field in a long,!!! long time. We dominated Cincinnati , unlike so many previous games that were decided in the last several minutes of the game, and Eagles  were barely hanging on.

I dream Big ,if can have a similar energy and results against Washington. 

If they play like this they can beat almost any team. 

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11 hours ago, xxeaglesfanxx said:

Another reason to be a run first team. Barkley, Gainwell, and Shipley can get it done. It minimizes the chances that Hurts blows the gsme with a turnover lol.

Jalen was a highly efficient and effective quarterback today. Barkley is a super team player. His attempts were limited yes, but he was definitely a key cog in this victory.

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1 hour ago, Traveler Vic said:

Has to be the most complete game that we put on the  field in a long,!!! long time. We dominated Cincinnati , unlike so many previous games that were decided in the last several minutes of the game, and Eagles  were barely hanging on.

I dream Big ,if can have a similar energy and results against Washington. 

Wash needed a miracle to beat Chic

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2 minutes ago, Portyansky said:

Wash needed a miracle to beat Chic

That was an ugly display of football for the most part by both of those teams, but that 4th quarter was exciting to see. Washington dominated most of that game though. Somehow they pulled that out. I knew Washington would be better, but I didn’t expect them to be this good yet.

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On 10/27/2024 at 11:55 PM, EazyEaglez said:

Jalen was a highly efficient and effective quarterback today. Barkley is a super team player. His attempts were limited yes, but he was definitely a key cog in this victory.

Barkley is the ultimate team player, and I think his addition is a big part of why the culture has seemed to turn back to a favorable one after it slipped last year. The fact that he told Nick he’d rather see the young backs get their carries at the end of the Giants game rather than going back in to set his new career high against his former team showed a lot about him. 

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21 hours ago, nipples said:

Barkley is the ultimate team player, and I think his addition is a big part of why the culture has seemed to turn back to a favorable one after it slipped last year. The fact that he told Nick he’d rather see the young backs get their carries at the end of the Giants game rather than going back in to set his new career high against his former team showed a lot about him. 

It showed a lot as a team mate and I think it showed a lot of his maturity too. He didn’t want to risk injury or take on unnecessary carries.

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