On 12/11/2024 at 5:11 PM, Ace Nova said:

664 million?  Is that a down payment?  State of the art retractable roof stadiums cost between 4x - 8x that much nowadays .

 

Anyway, who am I to argue about whether or not they should build one?
 

Lurie has earned the right to make those types of calls imo - especially if he’s willing to pay for most of it 

Exactly. More likely, he's taking cash out of this investment, which is one of the most profitable in sports history. 

28 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Exactly. More likely, he's taking cash out of this investment, which is one of the most profitable in sports history. 

Yeah, that’s what I figured as well.  Being worth 8 billion + is nice and all but if none of it is liquid, it’s basically just on paper.   Who knows, maybe he’s setting his family up with some early inheritance $ etc 

On 12/12/2024 at 7:14 AM, NYEagle said:

I disagree.....the lifespan of a stadium is 30 to 50 years on average.  We are at 21 years on the Linc which by the way, having been there for many games, I find quite meh.  Now, it isn't as bad as the dump up the Turnpike in NJ (aka the big razor), but it honestly isn't great either.  So with planning, building, etc.....if it's 10 years out to completion, then now is the exact time to start.  That would put it at 31 years old upon retirement.  And I think the roof should/would need to be retractable.  We are a Northeast team, you want other teams coming and playing in the elements/cold.  But if it's raining, if it's a heavy snow storm, shut it.  Also, as stated, for some reason having attended games....it does not seem to me to be as loud even as the Vet used to be.  Or even as loud as Citizens Bank Park.  You shut that top, I'd be really curious what an Eagles home game sounds like!  And....it would definitely give the city the ability to host a Super Bowl.  

The real question I've also wondered is... why is the stadium lifespan so short?  Most buildings can last much much longer than that, so why can't stadiums?

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The real question I've also wondered is... why is the stadium lifespan so short?  Most buildings can last much much longer than that, so why can't stadiums?

Because team owners would rather extort their host cities for brand new stadiums, than sink their own money into fixing ones they already have.

2 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

Because team owners would rather extort their host cities for brand new stadiums, than sink their own money into fixing ones they already have.

Likely very true.   But, why not extort the cities for repairs?   I like the old stadiums.  I like the history of them, the nostalgia, the aura of years gone by.  Watching a game in the same place that the greats of bygone eras played is special to me.  I don't know... maybe I'm just a dinosaur.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Likely very true.   But, why not extort the cities for repairs?   I like the old stadiums.  I like the history of them, the nostalgia, the aura of years gone by.  Watching a game in the same place that the greats of bygone eras played is special to me.  I don't know... maybe I'm just a dinosaur.

I would guess for the hype value of having the newest and bestest stadium.  Keeping up with the Joneses - literally.

Plus, The Linc hasn't been around that long to have such a storied history.  To Eagles fans, maybe, but it doesn't compare to Lambeau, as far as historical significance.

 

edit: Even though the Vet was short-lived, it sticks in my mind as more famous than the Linc.  Even if it was more like infamous.

On 12/12/2024 at 7:14 AM, NYEagle said:

... if it's 10 years out to completion, then now is the exact time to start.  That would put it at 31 years old upon retirement.

Lurie is in his early to mid 70's. If a new stadium is his goal, he'd likely want it done sooner than 10 years.

4 hours ago, Mortimer said:

Because team owners would rather extort their host cities for brand new stadiums, than sink their own money into fixing ones they already have.

Lurie doesnt own the stadium. He leases it from the city and it expires in 32 or 33. If he wants to build his own he needs to get started planning it. If he waits its the city that has all the leverage unless he threatens to move. 

SoFi took 4 years to build and almost 6 billion dollars.   Just from a timing perspective....even if you started planning now, by the time you had the site, designs/plans, approval from the city, etc.....you are looking at 6 to 10 years out from today.  Now, where Lurie is going to come up with another 5 Billion?  That's another question.....

They'd probably refurbish the stadium, be close to a billion. 8 games overseas, 8 in the US 

13 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The real question I've also wondered is... why is the stadium lifespan so short?  Most buildings can last much much longer than that, so why can't stadiums?

I just thought it was a capacity thing. Newer stadiums are meant to hold more aren't they? There's also the acoustics part

4 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

I just thought it was a capacity thing. Newer stadiums are meant to hold more aren't they? There's also the acoustics part

Weird thing is... many college stadiums are older, bigger and adding capacity without starting over.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Weird thing is... many college stadiums are older, bigger and adding capacity without starting over.

Im pretty sure the linc has added to its compacity a few times. At least one im sure of. 

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Im pretty sure the linc has added to its compacity a few times. At least one im sure of. 

They have but not in a major level way.. small section of seat seats that filled in an open area..

Need 70k seats for SB. Linc has 67,594

14 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

I just thought it was a capacity thing. Newer stadiums are meant to hold more aren't they? There's also the acoustics part

Doesn't Philadelphia limit the maximum capacity to roughly where the capacity is currently? I think I remember reading that back when The Linc was being built. 

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Need 70k seats for SB. Linc has 67,594

According to this article, the Linc can be expanded to hold up to 71,896.

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Lincoln Financial Field Stadium is one of the bigger stadiums in the NFL as far as the seating capacity goes. It can seat up to 67,594 fans but can also be expanded to accommodate roughly 71,896. Prior to the construction of the Lincoln Financial Field, the Eagles used to play their home games at Veterans Stadium which had similar seating capacity but had much less luxurious and wheelchair seating.

The current Eagles home has 172 luxury suites and can accommodate guests ranging from 12 to 40 people. The luxury suites are located at six different locations in the stadium. In total, there are 3,040 luxury suite seats.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/lincoln-financial-field-stadium-capacity

 

 

2 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Doesn't Philadelphia limit the maximum capacity to roughly where the capacity is currently? I think I remember reading that back when The Linc was being built. 

According to this article, the Linc can be expanded to hold up to 71,896.

 

I guess it's just the weather that's keeping it from being able to host a SB?

15 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I guess it's just the weather that's keeping it from being able to host a SB?

Yeah, the NFL doesn't really want a snow filled Super Bowl for the non-football fans that fill Super Bowl stadiums. Real football fans wouldn't (negatively) care, in fact some would probably love it. 

If the city really wants to attract a Super Bowl though, they'd likely lift any restrictions on capacity and allow a dome or retractable roofed stadium. I'd prefer the Eagles continue to be an "open air" team to allow the elements to be a factor in our favor, but I can see the benefits to being able to close a roof at times and since I'll most likely never attend a game in person, I have no leg to stand on if I were to criticize them for having a roof. 

I don't know.  I think the Linc is one of the best stadiums in football.  

Nick Foles Talking to Vikings players that were in that game, they think the fans were what really (made the difference) – obviously we executed, but they were like, ‘if we played this in Minnesota, we win this game.’ Fans (create) a huge home court advantage in Philadelphia.” 

10 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Nick Foles Talking to Vikings players that were in that game, they think the fans were what really (made the difference) – obviously we executed, but they were like, ‘if we played this in Minnesota, we win this game.’ Fans (create) a huge home court advantage in Philadelphia.” 

I don’t know how true this story about the dome is, but if they had something like that in Philadelphia teams wouldn’t be able to hear in that place. Something I never liked about the Linc is the architectural design made it difficult to keep sound in the place. The Vet always sounded loud even if it was a dump. 

33 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t know how true this story about the dome is, but if they had something like that in Philadelphia teams wouldn’t be able to hear in that place. Something I never liked about the Linc is the architectural design made it difficult to keep sound in the place. The Vet always sounded loud even if it was a dump. 

They have done some different things over the years at the linc to help keep some of the noise in like adding a small section of seating in one of the gaps. I haven't been there in a while so im not sure how much it helped. It seemed pretty loud at yesterday's game. 

 

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

They have done some different things over the years at the linc to help keep some of the noise in like adding a small section of seating in one of the gaps. I haven't been there in a while so im not sure how much it helped. It seemed pretty loud at yesterday's game. 

 

They definitely had to make changes. It’s much better than it used to be, but I would love to see a retractable dome in Philly. Not sure where a new stadium would go though. 

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

They definitely had to make changes. It’s much better than it used to be, but I would love to see a retractable dome in Philly. Not sure where a new stadium would go though. 

You will like this... Last game i went to was actually chip kellys first game at home 🤣🤣 even then he was only like 2 games into his career here and i still turned to my friend after the game and said i will never go to another game as long as chip kelly is here 🤣🤣🤣 Thats how much i hated that guy and knew he would flame out then already! 

6 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

You will like this... Last game i went to was actually chip kellys first game at home 🤣🤣 even then he was only like 2 games into his career here and i still turned to my friend after the game and said i will never go to another game as long as chip kelly is here 🤣🤣🤣 Thats how much i hated that guy and knew he would flame out then already! 

Your Chip hate goes far longer than mine. You win. 😂😂😂