23 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

He isn't we agree, but KP is bad. Jones would have won today. I wanted him when he was on the street. 

IDK. Jones has been bad too. He probably gets more out of the turnovers than Pickett did though.

15 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Well Sanders played with that line even before he and Hurts played together too though.

He had a better yards per carry in 2020 and 2021 and had 20 less total scrimmage yards his rookie year in one less game compared to 2022. He had a career high 11 TD's that season, which is funny because everyone assumes that Hurts vultures all the rushing TD's. He had a career high 259 carries in 2022 which allowed him to have that yardage total. 

28 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

IDK. Jones has been bad too. He probably gets more out of the turnovers than Pickett did though.

I'd take the shot of him with that OL and receivers over KP. 

10 minutes ago, Mat said:

He had a better yards per carry in 2020 and 2021 and had 20 less total scrimmage yards his rookie year in one less game compared to 2022. He had a career high 11 TD's that season, which is funny because everyone assumes that Hurts vultures all the rushing TD's. He had a career high 259 carries in 2022 which allowed him to have that yardage total. 

His rookie season was by far his best as a receiver. I think we expected more overall versatility from the player, but it never happened. 2022 was his best overall output as a back. It was also Jalen’s best season as a quarterback as well. Sanders boasted a lot of career highs that year and hasn’t been close to the same since. Not saying it’s all Jalen. This team has a really good OLine for rushing the football, but Jalen also impacts the run game due to his ability to run the football. 

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'd take the shot of him with that OL and receivers over KP. 

Unfortunately just like Dotson they invested draft capital into the player and it seems to have forced them to use the player. I would have preferred they traded for Fields. Could have gotten a better player for less. 

5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Unfortunately just like Dotson they invested draft capital into the player and it seems to have forced them to use the player. I would have preferred they traded for Fields. Could have gotten a better player for less. 

Would have been a good move.

People are acting like Pickett is the reason we lost. Considering he came in cold without 1st team reps in practice, I thought he was fine. He even made a perfect pass at a clutch moment that should have sealed the game. On the previous possession, he hit Barkley on a deep pass that was caught, but ruled incomplete. It should have been challenged as Barkley was down by contact well before the defender knocked the ball out. 

The Eagles lost today's game because of all the little mistakes combined, not just because of Pickett. When you lose a key piece of your offense, the rest of the team needs to pick up any slack --- today the opposite happened. Dumb penalties, drops, bad tackling, bad blocking, bad special teams plays, coverage issues, etc... hopefully were a wakeup call going forward. 

 

13 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

People are acting like Pickett is the reason we lost. Considering he came in cold without 1st team reps in practice, I thought he was fine. He even made a perfect pass at a clutch moment that should have sealed the game. On the previous possession, he hit Barkley on a deep pass that was caught, but ruled incomplete. It should have been challenged as Barkley was down by contact well before the defender knocked the ball out. 

The Eagles lost today's game because of all the little mistakes combined, not just because of Pickett. When you lose a key piece of your offense, the rest of the team needs to pick up any slack --- today the opposite happened. Dumb penalties, drops, bad tackling, bad blocking, bad special teams plays, coverage issues, etc... hopefully were a wakeup call going forward. 

 

No one is denying that this game had a lot of total failures by the team that led to this loss, but let’s not act like Pickett is blameless. 72.0 passer rating, less than 60% completion percentage, the 57.2 QBR. Pickett was a liability in this game and not some scapegoat.

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

People are acting like Pickett is the reason we lost. Considering he came in cold without 1st team reps in practice, I thought he was fine. He even made a perfect pass at a clutch moment that should have sealed the game. On the previous possession, he hit Barkley on a deep pass that was caught, but ruled incomplete. It should have been challenged as Barkley was down by contact well before the defender knocked the ball out. 

Firstly the Barkley throw was a bad throw. A better throw and Barkley has a chance to score. Instead it gave Wagner a chance to get to the ball and force it to come out. And whilst Smitty should have made that catch at the end it wasn’t a perfect pass. It was up near Smittys face not in to his chest.

5 hours ago, brkmsn said:

People are acting like Pickett is the reason we lost. Considering he came in cold without 1st team reps in practice, I thought he was fine. He even made a perfect pass at a clutch moment that should have sealed the game. On the previous possession, he hit Barkley on a deep pass that was caught, but ruled incomplete. It should have been challenged as Barkley was down by contact well before the defender knocked the ball out. 

The Eagles lost today's game because of all the little mistakes combined, not just because of Pickett. When you lose a key piece of your offense, the rest of the team needs to pick up any slack --- today the opposite happened. Dumb penalties, drops, bad tackling, bad blocking, bad special teams plays, coverage issues, etc... hopefully were a wakeup call going forward. 

 

I don't really think it's directly related to Hurts, there's a couple things people are missing.

The Eagles up until this year have had protection calls go through Jason Kelce.

This means that they would train their QBs differently, so all of a sudden those QBs are being trained to call protections. When you're doing this as a first ask, in a first year scheme, I think that means everyone has a lot to figure out, including how they want to teach it. Then on top of that, for someone coming off the bench like you said, and with the offense clearly tailored around the run threats of Jalen Hurts and Barkley combined, it means that they're not going to be very good at inserting a new QB from the bench with no practice reps or tuning up for the player.

But on top of that, the person you're inserting is Pickett, so frankly, this is about as good as you can expect from him cold off the bench. I think this say a lot more about Kellen Moore than it does about Jalen Hurts, but we'll see how it goes next week if we don't have Jalen, and how they'll adjust to that.

8 hours ago, NOTW said:

Mike, you're going on and on about social media outside this board. First of all, unless specifically said, people here are usually referring to fan discussion on the EMB.

Second, go back and look at what he was responding to... "posters on this board" and "people on here."

 

 

 

I thought it was pretty clear he meant people on this board as well. 

Jalen Hurts is the only Eagles quarterback to lead the Eagles to ten straight victories while people are acting anyone can do it even though no other Eagles quarterback has. You can’t make this stuff up. 😂🤣😂

9 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Jalen Hurts is the only Eagles quarterback to lead the Eagles to ten straight victories while people are acting anyone can do it even though no other Eagles quarterback has. You can’t make this stuff up. 😂🤣😂

Because winning 10 straight in the NFL is so easy to do… 😂

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Because winning 10 straight in the NFL is so easy to do… 😂

Jalen Hurts is the only Eagles quarterback to lead the Eagles to three consecutive seasons of eleven wins or more, but some dope on here wrote it was a mistake to design an offense based around Jalen’s strengths. 😂🤣😂 

WIll Jalen Hurts play against Cowboys? What's the point of that? Staying in synch with offense? Supporting Saquon's rushing yards?

 

On 12/20/2024 at 9:06 AM, MR-CYN said:

You really still stroking off to a guy with a career total of 3 passing yards in the playoffs in almost a decade after all the shet you talk about Hurts? 

Oh, my god. That's so true. 

I wanna watch the Chiefs just so I can see Carson Wentz.

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Firstly the Barkley throw was a bad throw. A better throw and Barkley has a chance to score. Instead it gave Wagner a chance to get to the ball and force it to come out. And whilst Smitty should have made that catch at the end it wasn’t a perfect pass. It was up near Smittys face not in to his chest.

 

He's getting hit while throwing to Barkley and is also under pressure on the Smith pass. Barkley didn't drop his pass, it was knocked out by Wagner after he caught it. There's not a single thing wrong with the Smith pass. That was 100% a drop by the receiver. 

Obviously Pickett wasn't perfect. He threw an INT early and that affected his passer rating. But aside from that one pass, he was better than I expected. Obviously, losing Hurts has a big effect on the run game, but one of the differences in the passing game that we saw was that Pickett is willing to throw passes where DPI could get called. We had 68 more yards and 3 more 1st downs due to DPI.

 I like our chances much better with Hurts all game, but this was a team failure all around and if that was Jalen making that throw to Smith at that moment, nothing changes. Smith drops it, we kick a FG, go up by 5 and our defense breaks down at the end. How do I know? It's an exact replica of the Falcon loss. 

9 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 

He's getting hit while throwing to Barkley and is also under pressure on the Smith pass. Barkley didn't drop his pass, it was knocked out by Wagner after he caught it. There's not a single thing wrong with the Smith pass. That was 100% a drop by the receiver. 

Obviously Pickett wasn't perfect. He threw an INT early and that affected his passer rating. But aside from that one pass, he was better than I expected. Obviously, losing Hurts has a big effect on the run game, but one of the differences in the passing game that we saw was that Pickett is willing to throw passes where DPI could get called. We had 68 more yards and 3 more 1st downs due to DPI.

 I like our chances much better with Hurts all game, but this was a team failure all around and if that was Jalen making that throw to Smith at that moment, nothing changes. Smith drops it, we kick a FG, go up by 5 and our defense breaks down at the end. How do I know? It's an exact replica of the Falcon loss. 

Or simply put, the ball hit a pro receiver in the hands they need to catch it or secure it. Him calling those passes bad just says it all on how he sees things. 

27 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Barkley didn't drop his pass, it was knocked out by Wagner after he caught it. There's not a single thing wrong with the Smith pass. That was 100% a drop by the receiver. 

Barkley double grabs it, it's probably why he doesn't maintain control and survive the ground with Wagner being able to knock it loose. I still don't put that on Pickett, Barkley needed to be clean so he had a better chance of securing the catch. Same goes for the Smith pass, he hit him on the numbers. 

There was also the Brown drop on the out route where Lattimore was able to break it up, that wasn't the perfect throw from Pickett but it's normally a catch Brown would still make 90 times out of 100. 

13 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

because as long as Jalen is healthy and starting for the Eagles they will win a lot of games. 

2000 Ravens won a lot of games with Trent Dilfer, Tony Banks and Chris Redman. No I don't think the 2024 Eagles defense is as dominant as the 2000 Ravens but I think it illustrates the point.

Funny how Hurts doesn't have to play in order for you to realize how important he is to this teams success. Now stfu and enjoy your soon to be SB MVP

Hurts would never win a Super Bowl, let alone Super Bowl MVP. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Hurts would never win a Super Bowl, let alone Super Bowl MVP. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They need to bench Hurts! Send a message for getting a concussion!

F the REFS and their calls. F Washington for so many commited but uncalled helmet to the head hits.

Hurts I wish you health and a quick recovery.

10 hours ago, Mat said:

Barkley double grabs it, it's probably why he doesn't maintain control and survive the ground with Wagner being able to knock it loose.

IMO, he survives the ground and Wagner makes contact with him on the ground while the ball is secure and then continues to try to knock the ball away. I believe this angle shows enough to warrant a challenge. In real time, it seemed like a bang-bang play, but the slow-mo shows the ball secure and down by contact before it is knocked away.