January 5, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, The Norseman said: So your argument is that they should become emasculated and subservient so that they will be more open to seeking mental health support? Seems to me that men can still be celebrated as the biological providers and protectors that they are without furthering a negative stigma around self help. Recognizing in oneself that there may be mental health issues is not emasculating or subservient, it's simply recognition of a problem that can be helped. The notion that masculinity means pushing problems deep down and ignoring them is damaging not only to the man but those around him. Grow up.
January 5, 20251 yr 55 minutes ago, The Norseman said: So your argument is that they should become emasculated and subservient so that they will be more open to seeking mental health support? Seems to me that men can still be celebrated as the biological providers and protectors that they are without furthering a negative stigma around self help. No, my argument is that you or anyone else, are not the judge of what a "real man” is supposed to be. My argument is that men would be more open to seeking mental health support if "real men” would not judge them as being emasculated for doing so.
January 5, 20251 yr 46 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Or maybe I’m tired of seeing my male friends and relatives either eat a bullet, or drink themselves to death because they choose to "man up,” instead of getting professional help. One doesn't have to do with the other. Man up doesn't apply to our friends who get kicked around a broken system for vets.
January 5, 20251 yr Honestly, I think that in terms of GWOT vets, any USN/USMC with a CAR and any Army with a CIB/CAB/CMB should be eligible for free head MRIs every few years. Probably could even add non deployed Arty, Mortars, and anyone who heavily used the Carl G. Would cost a ton, but tbh I think it would be worth it.
January 5, 20251 yr 22 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: One doesn't have to do with the other. Man up doesn't apply to our friends who get kicked around a broken system for vets. IMHO and experience, "man up,” is the number one reason why my fellow vets do not seek help for mental health issues. The VA health system still has many flaws, but it is far from broken. Too many vets still fall through the cracks, but If a vet is not getting the help they need, it is usually their own doing.
January 5, 20251 yr MAGA is already finding out how petty Elon is. Now they are slowly finding out the elites don't give an F about them. Thanks Laura Loomer, but you're no longer needed.
January 5, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: "The media" didn't call Vance a couch f***er. It was a social media creation that nobody took seriously but was still funny. Vance is a chameleon style politician. He is not truly MAGA, he just co-opted it when it became obvious that the mouth breathing masses required it of any Republican candidates. Call it politically adaptive, or call it a politician willing to sacrifice whatever principles he may have to get ahead, that's what he is. (And there's a LOT of them in Congress) That said if Trump became incapacitated and unable to complete his term he'd revert to a more traditional Republican and we'd all be better for it. Vance actually sounded normal during his debate. Not sure how he can revert back to a traditional Republican when all of Trump's nominees will be sycophants.
January 5, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said: MAGA is already finding out how petty Elon is. Now they are slowly finding out the elites don't give an F about them. Thanks Laura Loomer, but you're no longer needed. I'm not sure anyone likes her outside of Trump and Loomer herself
January 5, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, The Norseman said: What's funny is that you think a bunch of rich kids with liberal arts degrees know better than the working class that actually keeps this country running. Watching Trump's cadre of billionaires in his cabinet deregulate Wall St and the banking industry to further widen the gap between the elites and the working shlubs you are touting is the hilarious silver lining to a second Trump term. When prices rise, corporate profits continue to soar to record levels, while the working class you are referring to, see stagnant wages and can't get ahead, just remember that you voted for this.
January 5, 20251 yr 44 minutes ago, Bill said: Honestly, I think that in terms of GWOT vets, any USN/USMC with a CAR and any Army with a CIB/CAB/CMB should be eligible for free head MRIs every few years. Probably could even add non deployed Arty, Mortars, and anyone who heavily used the Carl G. Would cost a ton, but tbh I think it would be worth it. The VA has a pretty good Polytrauma system of care for TBIs. While it is only mandatory to screen combats vets for TBI, any veteran enrolled in the VA that has had a TBI can be treated regardless of whether it was combat related or even service related.
January 5, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: The VA has a pretty good Polytrauma system of care for TBIs. While it is only mandatory to screen combats vets for TBI, any veteran enrolled in the VA that has had a TBI can be treated regardless of whether it was combat related or even service related. How far does the screening process go? Is it just asking about symptoms or do they actually do any imaging? If it’s just the former and not the latter, I’m guessing quite a few either think they feel fine or are just outright lying because they’re worried about repercussions of care. Coming back is Fd up enough, without even adding TBI to it.
January 5, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, The Norseman said: What's funny is that you think a bunch of rich kids with liberal arts degrees know better than the working class that actually keeps this country running. You sound both poor and stupid. Now I just feel shiddy for making fun of you so much. Thanks.
January 5, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Recognizing in oneself that there may be mental health issues is not emasculating or subservient, it's simply recognition of a problem that can be helped. The notion that masculinity means pushing problems deep down and ignoring them is damaging not only to the man but those around him. Grow up. You misunderstood my post. I was referencing the comments about Tim Walz being emasculated and trying to understand why he was making a mental health issue out of it. I agree with you.
January 5, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Gannan said: Watching Trump's cadre of billionaires in his cabinet deregulate Wall St and the banking industry to further widen the gap between the elites and the working shlubs you are touting is the hilarious silver lining to a second Trump term. When prices rise, corporate profits continue to soar to record levels, while the working class you are referring to, see stagnant wages and can't get ahead, just remember that you voted for this. Actually, they voted for it. The shlubs, that is.
January 5, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Gannan said: Watching Trump's cadre of billionaires in his cabinet deregulate Wall St and the banking industry to further widen the gap between the elites and the working shlubs you are touting is the hilarious silver lining to a second Trump term. When prices rise, corporate profits continue to soar to record levels, while the working class you are referring to, see stagnant wages and can't get ahead, just remember that you voted for this. People with empathy: "You're a sick man if you enjoy seeing poor Trump voters face the consequences of their own uninformed decisions!" Me:
January 5, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: You sound both poor and stupid. Now I just feel shiddy for making fun of you so much. Thanks. back to childish insults I see. yawn.
January 5, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, The Norseman said: What's funny is that you think a bunch of rich kids with liberal arts degrees know better than the working class that actually keeps this country running. 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: back to childish insults I see. yawn.
January 5, 20251 yr 42 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Actually, they voted for it. The shlubs, that is. Yep, and they deserve everything they are going to get.
January 6, 20251 yr 21 hours ago, Bill said: How far does the screening process go? It stops if the veteran answers no to all four questions. https://www.polytrauma.va.gov/system-of-care/TBI_Screening.asp
January 6, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: It stops if the veteran answers no to all four questions. https://www.polytrauma.va.gov/system-of-care/TBI_Screening.asp Well, it’s a good thing no service member has ever lied about their health to be seen as fit.
January 6, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: It stops if the veteran answers no to all four questions. https://www.polytrauma.va.gov/system-of-care/TBI_Screening.asp
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