4th and 5 from the 22

[Cheesteakitis]

You’re up two points with 2:07 left on the clock. You just had a wr drop a wide open pass on third down.

In their previous drive down 1 they went for it on 4th down twice (4-1 from own 47) (4-7 from midfield)  but this time they decide to kick a fg? 
 

even if you fail picking up a 4th down the play likely takes 7 seconds and takes it to the two minute warning and your giving the ball up at the 22.  You make the play you all but run out the clock even if you don’t gain another yard. 
 

your kicking team struggled all game so after making the fg the skins returned the ball to the 38 and the eagles had a stupid 5 yard penalty on top of that so they started the drive from the 43 yard line vs the 22 if they eagles had gone for it and failed. 
 

I’m not a huge fan of forcing a team into needing a touchdown to win the game. I’ve witnessed to many times watching the chiefs and bills that a team usually gets the td or atleast has a chance. It’s like the defense thinks all we need to do is keep them out of the end zone so they let them march right down the field, where if a team only needs a field goal they play tighter and cover the whole field.

also I feel the offense plays more urgent knowing they need a td vs just a fg. 
 

I know hindsight is 20/20 but what’s everyone’s thoughts what would you have done?

[Portyansky]

If we didn't convert the 4th down, then a fg wins the game for Wash, right? 

[time2rock]

21 minutes ago, Portyansky said:

If we didn't convert the 4th down, then a fg wins the game for Wash, right? 

Correct as we were only up 2 at that point.  It was a gamble either way.

[JohnB]

It's a tossup. The Eagles were playing very conservatively on offense and Barkley wasn't getting anywhere. He wouldn't have gotten the first down for us had they gone for it. By kicking the FG you're forcing the Redskins to get a TD, not a FG. 

[Cheesteakitis]

3 hours ago, Portyansky said:

If we didn't convert the 4th down, then a fg wins the game for Wash, right? 

Correct 

1 hour ago, JohnB said:

It's a tossup. The Eagles were playing very conservatively on offense and Barkley wasn't getting anywhere. He wouldn't have gotten the first down for us had they gone for it. By kicking the FG you're forcing the Redskins to get a TD, not a FG. 

yes that’s my point I feel there is less risk in them scoring a fg from the 22 if we fail then there is them scoring a td from the 43. We aren’t playing prevent defense if they only need a fg 

[xxeaglesfanxx]

I agreed with kicking the fg. Smith catches that pass it’s a moot point. If the d decided to actually play that last drive it’s a moot point. If the refs didn’t call 5 personal fouls all of which appeared to be bogus it’s a moot point.

[ManchesterEagle]

4 hours ago, Portyansky said:

If we didn't convert the 4th down, then a fg wins the game for Wash, right? 

 

2 minutes ago, xxeaglesfanxx said:

I agreed with kicking the fg. Smith catches that pass it’s a moot point. If the d decided to actually play that last drive it’s a moot point. If the refs didn’t call 5 personal fouls all of which appeared to be bogus it’s a moot point.

Funny thing is if Siri goes for it and they fail (which they probably would have done) then he gets called an idiot and people call for his head. 
Kicking the field goal was the right call. It just didn’t work out. 

[LacesOut]

You kick the FG in that situation, IMO. 

Then, the best Defense in the NFL, needs to win you the game. Didn't happen.

[brkmsn]

11 hours ago, Cheesteakitis said:

You’re up two points with 2:07 left on the clock. You just had a wr drop a wide open pass on third down.

In their previous drive down 1 they went for it on 4th down twice (4-1 from own 47) (4-7 from midfield)  but this time they decide to kick a fg? 
 

even if you fail picking up a 4th down the play likely takes 7 seconds and takes it to the two minute warning and your giving the ball up at the 22.  You make the play you all but run out the clock even if you don’t gain another yard. 
 

your kicking team struggled all game so after making the fg the skins returned the ball to the 38 and the eagles had a stupid 5 yard penalty on top of that so they started the drive from the 43 yard line vs the 22 if they eagles had gone for it and failed. 
 

I’m not a huge fan of forcing a team into needing a touchdown to win the game. I’ve witnessed to many times watching the chiefs and bills that a team usually gets the td or atleast has a chance. It’s like the defense thinks all we need to do is keep them out of the end zone so they let them march right down the field, where if a team only needs a field goal they play tighter and cover the whole field.

also I feel the offense plays more urgent knowing they need a td vs just a fg. 
 

I know hindsight is 20/20 but what’s everyone’s thoughts what would you have done?

Just to clarify, you're saying the conditions might have made the FG try for the commanders difficult had they played only for a FG to win it?

My opinion is you kick the FG like we did and expect the defense to hold. 

[brkmsn]

4 hours ago, LacesOut said:

, the best Defense in the NFL,

They spent too much time trying to be bullies and allowed a rookie QB to light them up with 5 passing TDs. The best defense in the NFL wouldn't have allowed that to happen. I think we just believed a little too much hype and this defense did too. Nobody is scared of this defense after watching the last game.  Time to "get to work."

[Iggles_Phan]

9 hours ago, Portyansky said:

If we didn't convert the 4th down, then a fg wins the game for Wash, right? 

This is true, but you win if you convert.  Kicking the FG still leaves you hoping for a defensive stop, though with a greater chance of success than holding from a FG.  

[brkmsn]

I think the situation where you go for it is when you are up by 3 (like the falcons game). Kicking a FG when up by 3 is pointless and only forces the opposition to play for the TD. Being up by 5 is way better than by two  as an opponent would win with a FG on the latter. 

[weko]

The key is not to play prevent d after fg. We let them catch the AND get out of bounds. If we guard the sidelines and keep them in bounds once wash does not have time to win like they did. Passive fail for the D and the defensive staff. We blitzed the prior possession and forced a pick. In these last minute situations i love the corner blitz as there isnt anyone to block our fastest defenders

[UK_EaglesFan89]

The way the defense was playing in that 4th quarter I don’t think you can risk it on 4th down. Kicking the FG was the right decision in that spot. You kick the points and you force Washington to drive with 1 maybe 2 timeouts left after the TMW. The FG play takes a few seconds off the clock and took us under the TMW anyway.

If Hurts is in there maybe you go for it? But even then this defense was struggling and so I think you have to kick the points.

So they started on their own 43 on that final drive right? So they needed 57 yards for the win. If we go for it on 4th down and fail they they get it on their 22 and need what 50 yards to get in to FG range? I mean let’s say a 50 yard attempt is reasonable… They’d have needed to get to our 32-35?