McKee looked impressive considering he was playing behind 2nd and 3rd string OL and was throwing mostly to Dotson (who also looked decent), Smith, and Wilson.  He could easily be #2.  

4 TD's in 2 games. He's a winner.

Tanner McKee #16!!!

Tanner McKee makes the players around him better. #16!!!

Let this be the last we see of Kenny Pickett

9 hours ago, The Norseman said:

Let this be the last we see of Kenny Pickett

Yeah, the Pickett addition was completely unnecessary. McKee outperformed him handily in the preseason, but the combo of his experience and the draft capital we gave up, seems like it forced him into the number 2 spot. 

I know it's only been a game and a couple of quarters, but McKee has been fantastic. I know it's not in the cards this year, but I'd be fascinated to see him play with the ones at some point. Imagine him with Brown, Smith, Barkley, and a real NFL offensive line in front of him.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yeah, the Pickett addition was completely unnecessary. McKee outperformed him handily in the preseason, but the combo of his experience and the draft capital we gave up, seems like it forced him into the number 2 spot. 

I know it's only been a game and a couple of quarters, but McKee has been fantastic. I know it's not in the cards this year, but I'd be fascinated to see him play with the ones at some point. Imagine him with Brown, Smith, Barkley, and a real NFL offensive line in front of him.

If the goal is to attempt 40+ passes per game, he's suited for the job. I couldn't help notice that the run game was completely ineffective while he was in. Obviously that was with a backup O-line, but it was vs a bad run defense. 

I think if you had to replace Hurts with McKee, you would see more passing attempts and more passing yards per game, but probably a 50 yard drop per game (at least) in rushing yards. The run / pass ratio would probably shift to 40/60.

28 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

If the goal is to attempt 40+ passes per game, he's suited for the job. I couldn't help notice that the run game was completely ineffective while he was in. Obviously that was with a backup O-line, but it was vs a bad run defense. 

I think if you had to replace Hurts with McKee, you would see more passing attempts and more passing yards per game, but probably a 50 yard drop per game (at least) in rushing yards. The run / pass ratio would probably shift to 40/60.

Do you think a backup line and back rbs had something to do with the ratio? Not even arguing with you , just curious. I figured kelly wanted to see his offense ran the way he has it in his head vs what we've done this year (nothing wrong with it considering the win-loss record) 

Y'all. I had just had a revelation. If you like the 2nd stringer better than the starter, and the 3rd stringer better than the 2nd stringer, where does it end? 

Then I realized.

Why don't I just play QB for the Eagles next weekend? I'd be the most popular man in the Delaware Valley.  

If I can clear the concussion protocol, I'll let them know I'm available. 

53 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yeah, the Pickett addition was completely unnecessary. McKee outperformed him handily in the preseason, but the combo of his experience and the draft capital we gave up, seems like it forced him into the number 2 spot. 

I know it's only been a game and a couple of quarters, but McKee has been fantastic. I know it's not in the cards this year, but I'd be fascinated to see him play with the ones at some point. Imagine him with Brown, Smith, Barkley, and a real NFL offensive line in front of him.

Was kind refreshing to see a true pocket passer in there too.  I know the dual threat is paramount in today's league, and maybe its just the old guy in me, but seeing a dude just stand in the pocket and sling it was great.

16 hours ago, time2rock said:

McKee looked impressive considering he was playing behind 2nd and 3rd string OL and was throwing mostly to Dotson (who also looked decent), Smith, and Wilson.  He could easily be #2.  

McKee looked good with the # 1's against Dallas and looked good playing with the scrubs. McKee makes the players around him better. See Dotson. I hope this lights a fire under Hurts.

 

2 minutes ago, wyote said:

Y'all. I had just had a revelation. If you like the 2nd stringer better than the starter, and the 3rd stringer better than the 2nd stringer, where does it end? 

Then I realized.

Why don't I just play QB for the Eagles next weekend? I'd be the most popular man in the Delaware Valley.  

If I can clear the concussion protocol, I'll let them know I'm available. 

 

Here's a question. How would Hurts have done playing with the scrubs against the Giants? 

3 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Was kind refreshing to see a true pocket passer in there too.  I know the dual threat is paramount in today's league, and maybe its just the old guy in me, but seeing a dude just stand in the pocket and sling it was great.

It was fun to watch. It's why I watch burrow games. It's almost refreshing

2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Here's a question. How would Hurts have done playing with the scrubs against the Giants? 

Remembered 13 quotes for after the game interview that didn't fit any of the questions

51 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

If the goal is to attempt 40+ passes per game, he's suited for the job. I couldn't help notice that the run game was completely ineffective while he was in. Obviously that was with a backup O-line, but it was vs a bad run defense. 

I think if you had to replace Hurts with McKee, you would see more passing attempts and more passing yards per game, but probably a 50 yard drop per game (at least) in rushing yards. The run / pass ratio would probably shift to 40/60.

There's no doubt the offense would be completely different going from a QB like Hurts to one like McKee. I'm not saying we should bench Hurts or anything like that, just noting that I'd be intrigued to see McKee with the ones. Pipe dream, I know.

14 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Was kind refreshing to see a true pocket passer in there too.  I know the dual threat is paramount in today's league, and maybe its just the old guy in me, but seeing a dude just stand in the pocket and sling it was great.

Absolutely. There was a play in the red zone, I think in the second quarter, where McKee dropped back looking left and you could literally see him scan the entire field going through each progression until he eventually found someone on the right side of the field for a short gain. It was with a pretty decent pass rush, too, by no means a clean pocket. Just seeing someone go through probably three reads that quickly made the three yard gain more exciting for me than it had any right to be.

I'm sure it's just the allure of the backup, and I know these games have been against a demoralized Dallas team and an awful Giants one, but I just find it impossible to not be impressed with and excited by McKee's potential. 

Weird spot because obviously we just paid Hurts and you can't bench a top 10 QB for a 6th rounder who has looked good in limited action against bad teams, but damn if I'm not intrigued by McKee's skillset. 

23 minutes ago, Kz! said:

There's no doubt the offense would be completely different going from a QB like Hurts to one like McKee. I'm not saying we should bench Hurts or anything like that, just noting that I'd be intrigued to see McKee with the ones. Pipe dream, I know.

Absolutely. There was a play in the red zone, I think in the second quarter, where McKee dropped back looking left and you could literally see him scan the entire field going through each progression until he eventually found someone on the right side of the field for a short gain. It was with a pretty decent pass rush, too, by no means a clean pocket. Just seeing someone go through probably three reads that quickly made the three yard gain more exciting for me than it had any right to be.

I'm sure it's just the allure of the backup, and I know these games have been against a demoralized Dallas team and an awful Giants one, but I just find it impossible to not be impressed with and excited by McKee's potential. 

Weird spot because obviously we just paid Hurts and you can't bench a top 10 QB for a 6th rounder who has looked good in limited action against bad teams, but damn if I'm not intrigued by McKee's skillset. 

Feel the same way and my mind went to the same place. Would be crazy to change a winning formula, but watching Jalen run around back there and take 14 yard sacks time and time again makes me miss the pocket QB.  Obviously McKee isn't Jalen, and likely will never be, but he did make a lot of people wonder what he'd be like with the #1s last night.  

I'll even go so far as to say, whether its Mckee or someone else, we learned with Wentz that selling high on a QB isn't the worst thing in the world. 

Just spitballin here.  But I went from "use him for trade bait" to "hang on to this guy at all cost" yesterday.

2 hours ago, Shalodeep said:

Do you think a backup line and back rbs had something to do with the ratio? Not even arguing with you , just curious. I figured kelly wanted to see his offense ran the way he has it in his head vs what we've done this year (nothing wrong with it considering the win-loss record) 

Kelly?

8 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Kelly?

Kellen Moore auto corrected

McKee looks great as a #2. No need to keep Pickett next season. 

1 hour ago, EagleMatt said:

McKee looks great as a #2. No need to keep Pickett next season. 

Unless you can get a good pick for Pickett?

7 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

Here's a question. How would Hurts have done playing with the scrubs against the Giants? 

Not very good. Hurts needs to be surrounded by talent to excel and he doesn't really lift the talent around him.. His whole existence is to game manage and supplement the run

7 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

Here's a question. How would Hurts have done playing with the scrubs against the Giants? 

Well just go back and look at Hurts earlier in the season vs the Gmen with the starters behind him. He was limited to 14 throws for a reason. People look at the stats and say he had a good game BUT watch the game. He was holding onto the ball a lot and taking sacks(5) or taking off after one read. Nick put an end to that quick in the 2nd half and let Barkley take over. 

There is no doubt McKee is the better passer with placement, and giving the receivers a chance on making a play by throwing them open or placement when they have a step. Hurts biggest benefit at this point is his legs which we have to understand does help Barkley in his success because the threat is there. But many know I'm not a big Hurts fan. He has his pluses but winning games with his arm and reading defenses will never be one of them. 

Hurts will be the starter next year, after that it is not 100% he keeps that job here if a better passer is found.  

7 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

McKee looked good with the # 1's against Dallas and looked good playing with the scrubs. McKee makes the players around him better. See Dotson. I hope this lights a fire under Hurts.

 

Dotson looking like a first round pick again was an eye opener.  He looked as good as he’s looked since his Penn State days.  
 

I’m sure Hurts took notice and hopefully begins to trust him more going forward. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Dotson looking like a first round pick again was an eye opener.  He looked as good as he’s looked since his Penn State days.  
 

I’m sure Hurts took notice and hopefully begins to trust him more going forward. 

Hurts trust no one that is not named AJ Brown. He wont throw to anyone not 100% open with 4-5 steps on the defender. If its Brown, he will throw it up for grabs. Anyone else he won;t throw them open. Rewatch McKee yesterday. He is throwing the ball before they make the break and even get open. That is what a QB is suppose to do, thrust the route and play design. But again, Hurts is not a passing QB and built that way. It's how HS and Colleague has ruined this game taking running backs and putting them at QB if they can throw a couple of passes. Great example is looking at Cunningham in Philly then him with the Vikings later in his career. He adapted, I think Hurts is too proud to admit he needs to do the same and get out of his comfort zone to learn how to play QB.