17 minutes ago, time2rock said:

The more I think about this, the more I believe promoting Patullo is the right move for 4 reasons.

1) It would allow some continuity with someone who has been in our system for a few years.

2) Timing.  Because we were the last team standing and weren't focusing on a search for a new OC, most if not all of the most coveted candidates have already been snapped up.

3) Jalen is now entering his 5th year as a full time starting QB - he now has a much better grasp on the NFL game and has become much better at reading defenses, handling the blitz, etc.  Can he still learn a few things?  Absolutely.  But it is getting to the point where he can almost run the offense himself.

4) Stout handles the run game, so promoting the guy responsible for handling the passing game makes quite a bit of sense.  

I think it will be Patullo. Worries me that he hasn’t called plays and that he might be a ticket to getting Sirriani more involved when he should stay in a more hands off role.  Ultimately I think it’ll come down to relationship with Hurts and Stoutland. Not sure about Hurts but Stoutland spoke well of him if you believe what people say publicly 

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

I think it will be Patullo. Worries me that he hasn’t called plays and that he might be a ticket to getting Sirriani more involved when he should stay in a more hands off role.  Ultimately I think it’ll come down to relationship with Hurts and Stoutland. Not sure about Hurts but Stoutland spoke well of him if you believe what people say publicly 

At the end of the day any change at coordinator is a crap shoot, Patullo may flame out as a full OC, but equally bringing a complete outside guy in may be a disaster, I think the thing with promoting in house this time is that Patullo has worked with Steichen, Johnson and Moore over the last 3 years, and the core offensive skill players across the offense are all vets with the team too, they all know what works and what doesn't, and there's evidence from this last year that the players aren't afraid to speak out when something isn't working (and that will be even stronger after winning it all) at this point in the team's evolution the risks to continued success are as much a matter of chemistry and vibes as they are football smarts and play design.  

TLDR: Patullo has at least as good a shot as anyone.

11 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

At the end of the day any change at coordinator is a crap shoot, Patullo may flame out as a full OC, but equally bringing a complete outside guy in may be a disaster, I think the thing with promoting in house this time is that Patullo has worked with Steichen, Johnson and Moore over the last 3 years, and the core offensive skill players across the offense are all vets with the team too, they all know what works and what doesn't, and there's evidence from this last year that the players aren't afraid to speak out when something isn't working (and that will be even stronger after winning it all) at this point in the team's evolution the risks to continued success are as much a matter of chemistry and vibes as they are football smarts and play design.  

TLDR: Patullo has at least as good a shot as anyone.

The risk with Patullo is that he is so close to Sirriani that if it doesn't work out then Sirriani will probably protect him and be slow to make a change but that doesn't mean Patullo doesn't deserve a shot if the general consensus is he's the right guy

9 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The risk with Patullo is that he is so close to Sirriani that if it doesn't work out then Sirriani will probably protect him and be slow to make a change but that doesn't mean Patullo doesn't deserve a shot if the general consensus is he's the right guy

Agreed. The other risk is that he doesn’t have any play calling experience… and whilst I know that’s true of all play callers before they do it I think it’s a real risk. We know Sirianni can’t do it so it’s not really like he could take over.

My initial reasoning for wanting someone outside the organization was to be able to bring fresh new ideas to the offense (if you're not getting better you're getting worse).  As defending champs we are going to have a target on our backs and defenses will have all offseason to watch film to try to figure out how best to defend against us (although a large part of our success was just having better players overall and man-on-man we were able to win those battles).  But still, you'd like to see the offense continue to evolve to stay ahead.    

1 minute ago, time2rock said:

My initial reasoning for wanting someone outside the organization was to be able to bring fresh new ideas to the offense (if you're not getting better you're getting worse).  As defending champs we are going to have a target on our backs and defenses will have all offseason to watch film to try to figure out how best to defend against us (although a large part of our success was just having better players overall and man-on-man we were able to win those battles).  But still, you'd like to see the offense continue to evolve to stay ahead.    

Agree with your reasoning tho I think Sirriani will get his guy as a gift for SB

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Agree with your reasoning tho I think Sirriani will get his guy as a gift for SB

And rightfully so.  If the new OC bombs, he'll get fired after the season, Howie will bring in his guy again, and we'll be having another parade in 2027. 

 

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

The more I think about this, the more I believe promoting Patullo is the right move for 4 reasons.

1) It would allow some continuity with someone who has been in our system for a few years.

2) Timing.  Because we were the last team standing and weren't focusing on a search for a new OC, most if not all of the most coveted candidates have already been snapped up.

3) Jalen is now entering his 5th year as a full time starting QB - he now has a much better grasp on the NFL game and has become much better at reading defenses, handling the blitz, etc.  Can he still learn a few things?  Absolutely.  But it is getting to the point where he can almost run the offense himself.

4) Stout handles the run game, so promoting the guy responsible for handling the passing game makes quite a bit of sense.  

I don't know if Patullo will be a good OC or not. But I do agree, that this time the situation is different. I actually supported the idea of promoting from within after Steichen left. One problem was both coordinators left. Last year's defense was really bad and the coaching was a mess. It was kind of a perfect storm plus Super Bowl hangover. 

This year after winning, and the defense will have continuity, and the offensive roster is intact I think it's easier because they found their identity and settled into what works this year.

16 minutes ago, time2rock said:

And rightfully so.  If the new OC bombs, he'll get fired after the season, Howie will bring in his guy again, and we'll be having another parade in 2027. 

 

That's the fear with Patullo.  He's Sirriani BFF.  Might be harder for him to fire.  Also worried it gets Sirriani more involved in O.   He thrived with less involvement.  Would like to keep it that way

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

That's the fear with Patullo.  He's Sirriani BFF.  Might be harder for him to fire.  Also worried it gets Sirriani more involved in O.   He thrived with less involvement.  Would like to keep it that way

Truer words yada yada ... 

For those mentioning Slowik as a preferred candidate, can scratch him off your wish list.  Just hired by Miami as their senior passing game coordinator.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-dolphins-hire-bobby-slowik-as-senior-passing-game-coordinator

20 hours ago, Mat said:

There are only 32 of those jobs and there is no guarantee you get another chance at one. There is no way he is turning it down, even with the cap situation

maybe but if it were me I would hope to be given a long enough leash and all the support I need to bail myself out of that situation

6 hours ago, JohnB said:

maybe but if it were me I would hope to be given a long enough leash and all the support I need to bail myself out of that situation

Yeah you’d want assurances that you’d get time right! And a clear plan from the FO on what their plan is to too. Moore could be a really good HC but he hasn’t got a lot to work with at the moment.

8 hours ago, JohnB said:

maybe but if it were me I would hope to be given a long enough leash and all the support I need to bail myself out of that situation

I didn't want to lose him but I understood if he would..It's a horrible situation there with the cap hell they are in but I understand

his reasoning..He's going to get at least double or 3 times his 2.5 mil salary now for 4-5 years..he gets that weather he is fired or not..

If he does get fired he will go back to a OC  and still have that money..he's got to provide for his family 1st and I get it. Good luck to him, I 

wanted him as our OC when we fired Johnson so I'm sorry to see him go. 

28 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said:

I didn't want to lose him but I understood if he would..It's a horrible situation there with the cap hell they are in but I understand

his reasoning..He's going to get at least double or 3 times his 2.5 mil salary now for 4-5 years..he gets that weather he is fired or not..

If he does get fired he will go back to a OC  and still have that money..he's got to provide for his family 1st and I get it. Good luck to him, I 

wanted him as our OC when we fired Johnson so I'm sorry to see him go. 

I also think like a lot of these guys believe in themselves and that they can turn any situation around. He’s got to believe that he can go in to NO and turn things around for them.

Alright, i'll take the job.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I also think like a lot of these guys believe in themselves and that they can turn any situation around. He’s got to believe that he can go in to NO and turn things around for them.

That hot mess I don't see getting real turnaround til year 3. Their GM is bad...B A D... BAD. That should've concerned Moore also because Loomis's 

leash will be short, they are already calling for his head. 

I think after what happened last year with an inexperienced OC vs what happened this year with an experienced one should be a lesson to the Eagles. Bring in a competent proven play caller (easier said than done) 

8 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Well damn I guess I should have read the post right above before posting. Ha 

Hope it works out. 

On 2/11/2025 at 11:57 PM, Mat said:

There are only 32 of those jobs and there is no guarantee you get another chance at one. There is no way he is turning it down, even with the cap situation

Lions OC bet on himself. Said he was staying and ended up still being a top candidate 

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lions OC bet on himself. Said he was staying and ended up still being a top candidate 

And the Texans OC ended up fired 12 months later from his position after being a hot prospect. He also ended up with the Bears who've also been a notorious sheet show. 

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t see anything announced anywhere that Patullo was promoted.  Not ready to trust "The Fly Eagles Fly” as a legit source.  

 

1 hour ago, Mat said:

And the Texans OC ended up fired 12 months later from his position after being a hot prospect. He also ended up with the Bears who've also been a notorious sheet show. 

Slowik?  He was hired by the Dolphins, not the Bears.  

32 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I don’t see anything announced anywhere that Patullo was promoted.  Not ready to trust "The Fly Eagles Fly” as a legit source.  

 

I just checked on PE.com. Nothing.