1 hour ago, proveagle said:

Hurts can throw with anticipation. The ability is there IMO he just can’t consistently do it yet and they don’t use the playcalling I’d expect to get him in a rythmn.

They looked like I would expect after not playing or practicing together for weeks against a top 5 defense.

So, we're now 3-1 post season vs. the Packers

It’s kind of funny really… All week I listened to podcasts saying if the Eagles look after the ball they win. If Hurts doesn’t turn the ball over they win. And he didn’t and we didn’t and we won. So yeah Hurts was not good and he really struggled but we did what we needed to do in the end. Saquon got his yards and the defense was able to dominate.

Happy with that. Eagles played physical football, protected the ball, forced turnovers and could have won by more at the death. Never felt any sense of danger or peril, and felt they were always in control. I will take a performance like that all day long in those circumstances. Onwards!

7 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

Happy with that. Eagles played physical football, protected the ball, forced turnovers and could have won by more at the death. Never felt any sense of danger or peril, and felt they were always in control. I will take a performance like that all day long in those circumstances. Onwards!

I’m not sure I’d say there was never any danger or peril. I think the danger / peril came from us letting GB hang on with us. First half we were so dominant and forced 3 turnovers in the first half alone that really we should have been out of sight.

That's just how I felt. I wasn't worried at any time 

If we had a decent QB that should have been a complete blow out tbh

6 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

If we had a decent QB that should have been a complete blow out tbh

I mean look… I think we do have a decent QB. We know he struggles at times and he has limitations but we know he really can produce. He struggled yesterday and he needs to be better but he’s not played much in a month.

13 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

That's just how I felt. I wasn't worried at any time 

I think if I watch the game back then yeah for sure I’d feel comfortable throughout. The defense was mostly dominant. The Packers did struggle to move the ball and so on that basis we were in control. I just think live during the game it felt like we were letting them hang with us too much when we should have been out of sight.

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

If we had a decent QB that should have been a complete blow out tbh

 

Alot of games this year would have been a blowout if not for the QB. I don't get how people don't see this.  QB is a bottleneck on the offense. 

Hurts protected the ball which was critical to winning. He did struggle in the passing game and looked like he was operating in slow motion at times, so he may not be 100% despite clearing the protocol. If he protects the ball and takes what the defense gives him, he can help the Eagles win. That's all I expect from him at this point. See the whole field, throw it on time and on target to the most open guy at the necessary depth, protect the ball, and if you run, slide when you should. Other than that, no messed up handoffs to Saquon. In short, he doesn't need to be dominant, just efficient and effective and that'll be enough.

A win is a win, particularly it is a playoff game.  Nevertheless, the offense was not as sharp and productive.  Defense of both teams played well to limit the offense of the other side.  

The turn-over ratio strongly favored the Eagles.  Yet, only one, the kickoff return fumble, turned into points.  The others did not gain the team much advantage. 

Defense still had issues on tackling.  They got to the point of attack but failed to wrap up and stopped the carriers.  Frustrating to watch.

AJ only got one catch.  By design or his injury was more an issue?  Interesting to see him reading a book on the bench.  Certainly a highly unusual thing to see.

 

13 hours ago, proveagle said:

Hurts can throw with anticipation. The ability is there IMO he just can’t consistently do it yet and they don’t use the playcalling I’d expect to get him in a rythmn.

Im not trying to be an ahole here, but seriously how long are we holding our breath? He's pretty much been the same guy since college and Howie has loaded him up to make it work. He isnt a rhythm/high volume guy. Anticipation isn't his game either. As long as he keeps winning, he's justified...but expecting him to develop more as a passer when he's in year 5 and still can only hit two receivers and his tight end occasionally says it's who he is. Run him ragged until the money gets easy to dump and move on would be the gameplan cause as a passer he's stagnant 

4 hours ago, Shalodeep said:

Im not trying to be an ahole here, but seriously how long are we holding our breath? He's pretty much been the same guy since college and Howie has loaded him up to make it work. He isnt a rhythm/high volume guy. Anticipation isn't his game either. As long as he keeps winning, he's justified...but expecting him to develop more as a passer when he's in year 5 and still can only hit two receivers and his tight end occasionally says it's who he is. Run him ragged until the money gets easy to dump and move on would be the gameplan cause as a passer he's stagnant 

Not an ahole. Just non believer in people continuing to improve or extenuating circumstances. Like it sure would be nice if we didn't have new coordinators every year. That trend looks like it's going to continue smh. Further, throwing with anticipation has its own risk ie interceptions. You want a gun slinger that throws based on supreme anticipation you can't be crying about the occasional turnover. With this stacked team and defense the risk isn't worth the reward. This team simply wins when they aren't turning over the ball. That's the recipe.

How about some love for special teams? They forced the fumble on the opening kickoff which led to the early TD. Giving the Eagles the lead they never relinquished. Elliot made all 3 FGs (but he missed a PAT). And they didn’t let All-Pro KR Nixon break out a big return. They did their job then some. 

Good game for the defense. The offense sputtered, but I give credit to the Green Bay defense bottling them up. Is AJ Brown really hurt? They didn’t really need him this week. Because most importantly the Eagles didn’t commit any turnovers. The Packers kept it close most of the game, only needing a turnover or big play that didn’t materialize. Ugly win, but the Eagles move on. 

3 hours ago, judunno said:

Not an ahole. Just non believer in people continuing to improve or extenuating circumstances. Like it sure would be nice if we didn't have new coordinators every year. That trend looks like it's going to continue smh. Further, throwing with anticipation has its own risk ie interceptions. You want a gun slinger that throws based on supreme anticipation you can't be crying about the occasional turnover. With this stacked team and defense the risk isn't worth the reward. This team simply wins when they aren't turning over the ball. That's the recipe.

I said as long as they keep winning it's justified. Just blows my mind people are expecting some flip of the switch.  The hope is his arm catches up before his legs go. I just dont see it. Not saying replace him, not saying any of that. Just rattles the cage when I see that when legit the man has been the entire focus of the organization for almost half a decade now and we are running a 70s offense lol 

6 hours ago, Shalodeep said:

I said as long as they keep winning it's justified. Just blows my mind people are expecting some flip of the switch.  The hope is his arm catches up before his legs go. I just dont see it. Not saying replace him, not saying any of that. Just rattles the cage when I see that when legit the man has been the entire focus of the organization for almost half a decade now and we are running a 70s offense lol 

Who said anything about flip of a switch. Sometimes he throws with anticipation and sometimes he’s off. Perfectly reasonable to hope for steady improvement through hard work. It’s not just Hurts though it’s also the offensive scheme and game plan. Take that game late in the season I think it was the Steelers when they came out throwing? Lots of quick passes. He was decisive and aggressive.  He can be that. It really feels like Moore stays conservative and vanilla if they are running the ball and winning and D is balling.  Let’s see what happens if they get in a shootout.

i also think getting a second year with Moore for continuity so they can evolve scheme together would be good to see.

Not to be an a-hole,  🙂 but it amazes me to see people so willing to move on from a young winning QB that clearly is a leader in the locker room. Like it’s so easy to draft and find a new one? Take CJ Stroud. Top pick didn’t look great 2nd year and not even in the playoffs anymore. Caleb Williams? Yeah no thanks. So many busts out there. Getting a QB is hard you have to have patience.

 

15 hours ago, judunno said:

Not an ahole. Just non believer in people continuing to improve or extenuating circumstances. Like it sure would be nice if we didn't have new coordinators every year. That trend looks like it's going to continue smh. Further, throwing with anticipation has its own risk ie interceptions. You want a gun slinger that throws based on supreme anticipation you can't be crying about the occasional turnover. With this stacked team and defense the risk isn't worth the reward. This team simply wins when they aren't turning over the ball. That's the recipe.

Oh boy. This the argument we are using  to justify not passing the ball efficiently. "the QB could throw an INT"

 

Hurts apologists will stoop to any low to defend him.

59 minutes ago, Swimm said:

Oh boy. This the argument we are using  to justify not passing the ball efficiently. "the QB could throw an INT"

 

Hurts apologists will stoop to any low to defend him.

If you are waiting for Hurts to develop into a superstar QB, quit holding your breath. He is not and he never will be. Hurts will always be second-fiddle to guys like Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, etc. There is a reason why every team passed on him and the Eagles got him in the second round of the draft. But he can still be very good. The offense is built around the offensive line and Barkley running the ball. All the Eagles need Hurts to do is play smart, control the football, and use his legs to keep defenses honest. And help grind forward when they run the shove. He did that against the Packers and they won.

1 hour ago, Swimm said:

Oh boy. This the argument we are using  to justify not passing the ball efficiently. "the QB could throw an INT"

 

Hurts apologists will stoop to any low to defend him.

It's not just about Hurts genius. Its about what the coaches are asking him to do. These are their plans. They are the ones that decided to call an extremely conservative game. Happens to be a winning plan at the moment. 2000 yard back... top defense. The Eagles don't have to pass 30 to 40 times in a game unless absolutely necessary. Pretty nice position to be in. You do like winning right?

13 hours ago, Shalodeep said:

I said as long as they keep winning it's justified. Just blows my mind people are expecting some flip of the switch.  The hope is his arm catches up before his legs go. I just dont see it. Not saying replace him, not saying any of that. Just rattles the cage when I see that when legit the man has been the entire focus of the organization for almost half a decade now and we are running a 70s offense lol 

I just find it funny that for YEARS people on this board were adamant about Running the ball more. Eagles do it with great success and dominance and people still have gripes 😂 

6 hours ago, proveagle said:

Who said anything about flip of a switch. Sometimes he throws with anticipation and sometimes he’s off. Perfectly reasonable to hope for steady improvement through hard work. It’s not just Hurts though it’s also the offensive scheme and game plan. Take that game late in the season I think it was the Steelers when they came out throwing? Lots of quick passes. He was decisive and aggressive.  He can be that. It really feels like Moore stays conservative and vanilla if they are running the ball and winning and D is balling.  Let’s see what happens if they get in a shootout.

i also think getting a second year with Moore for continuity so they can evolve scheme together would be good to see.

Not to be an a-hole,  🙂 but it amazes me to see people so willing to move on from a young winning QB that clearly is a leader in the locker room. Like it’s so easy to draft and find a new one? Take CJ Stroud. Top pick didn’t look great 2nd year and not even in the playoffs anymore. Caleb Williams? Yeah no thanks. So many busts out there. Getting a QB is hard you have to have patience.

He's not a second year Qb...he's a second contract, once highest paid qb in the league QB who they decided 4 weeks in couldn't be the center of an offense once again QB. I also said for the next few years, he's qb and it's justified if we keep winning. To ignore his lack of progress while starting almost every game the last 4 years is just blind fan hood stuff. I'm not ignoring the teams success while he's qb. But let's look at the qbs you are calling out. Do you honestly think that Caleb or cj would struggle the way they have with these weapons and a #1 defense?