March 21, 2025Mar 21 35 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: @Dave Moss I used to know when I'd made a great post when you tagged it with a smiley. Now, I know when @greenskeeper does the same. I’m having him fill in for me. I told him - any post that involves dead kids make sure you like it.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 Author 6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I’m having him fill in for me. I told him - any post that involves dead kids make sure you like it.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 46 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I am taking the side of the Constitution and would have the same issue regardless of who is in the WH. I am "up in arms” because we deported "suspected foreign criminals” without due process. These people were already in US custody and no danger to anyone. We don’t sheet on the constitution because of your emotions. Different legal method. 🤣🤣🤣 Alien Enemies Act does not require due process for deportation. The constitution has nothing to do with this case. It may, if the courts rule that the Alien Enemies Act cannot be used for these purposes, but they have not. So, your outrage is premature at best.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 3 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Alien Enemies Act does not require due process for deportation. The constitution has nothing to do with this case. It may, if the courts rule that the Alien Enemies Act cannot be used for these purposes, but they have not. So, your outrage is premature at best. Which draws into question the constitutionality of the AEA. And it really is telling that you yourself are not outraged by the removal of an individual right granted by the Constitution.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 1 minute ago, BBE said: Which draws into question the constitutionality of the AEA. And it really is telling that you yourself are not outraged by the removal of an individual right granted by the Constitution. Which the courts will decide. Everything is working exactly as it should. And I assure you buddy, you are in the extreme minority if you're losing sleep over HOW we choose to deport illegal, foreign gang members 😂😂
March 21, 2025Mar 21 4 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Which the courts will decide. Everything is working exactly as it should. And I assure you buddy, you are in the extreme minority if you're losing sleep over HOW we choose to deport illegal, foreign gang members 😂😂 And that is unfortunate. Remember this when you are crying censorship.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 13 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Alien Enemies Act does not require due process for deportation. The constitution has nothing to do with this case. It may, if the courts rule that the Alien Enemies Act cannot be used for these purposes, but they have not. So, your outrage is premature at best. More good points that will be ignored.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 1 minute ago, BBE said: And that is unfortunate. Remember this when you are crying censorship. What I'll remember is all of you having meltdowns if the Supreme Court upholds the AEA. Something tells me you won't be as married to proper legal procedure then. But lets be honest, you'll all be off to the next Democrat talking point by then...this will be old news.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: What I'll remember is all of you having meltdowns if the Supreme Court upholds the AEA. Something tells me you won't be as married to proper legal procedure then. But lets be honest, you'll all be off to the next Democrat talking point by then...this will be old news. You are assuming that the SCOTUS will even take the case. Again, when you were crying censorship and how your First Amendment rights were being infringed, you were just being a hypocrite.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 2 minutes ago, BBE said: You are assuming that the SCOTUS will even take the case. Again, when you were crying censorship and how your First Amendment rights were being infringed, you were just being a hypocrite. I don't have any idea what you're talking about. But maybe its because I'm not an illegal alien involved with a murderous gang. You love those guys.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 24 minutes ago, The Norseman said: I don't have any idea what you're talking about. But maybe its because I'm not an illegal alien involved with a murderous gang. You love those guys. No, I don't love those guys. They are scum, but like you they are afforded rights by the constitution which I am not comfortable with them nor you losing.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 33 minutes ago, The Norseman said: But maybe its because I'm not an illegal alien involved with a murderous gang. But what if the government claimed you were, should we just take their word for it, or would you want due process first?
March 21, 2025Mar 21 9 minutes ago, BBE said: No, I don't love those guys. They are scum, but like you they are afforded rights by the constitution which I am not comfortable with them nor you losing. Not if they are deemed enemy Aliens they are not.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 Just now, Tnt4philly said: But what if the government claimed you were, should we just take their word for it, or would you want due process first? This is dumb even for you. You can't claim that a citizen is an illegal alien. You guys are completely off the rails now.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 Just now, The Norseman said: Not if they are deemed enemy Aliens they are not. We would need due process to deem that.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 3 minutes ago, The Norseman said: This is dumb even for you. You can't claim that a citizen is an illegal alien. You guys are completely off the rails now. Without due process you can.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 8 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Not if they are deemed enemy Aliens they are not. You haven't read the text of the AEA.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 7 minutes ago, The Norseman said: This is dumb even for you. You can't claim that a citizen is an illegal alien. You guys are completely off the rails now. Well the justice department failed to produce evidence for the individuals in question. Why would you be exempt from the same treatment. Remember the SCOTUS case your argument hangs on was technically a First Amendment case.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: Without due process you can. So you are distilling this down into a 3rd grade argument about the importance of due process now? Bravo. Sadly, I'm out of gold starts.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 1 hour ago, BBE said: You haven't read the text of the AEA. I have actually, and while ambiguous in parts (particularly section 2), it seems pretty clear to me that the executive has the authority to identify and expel those deemed enemy aliens as long as they meet certain criteria. Once its in the hands of the executive, the due process discussion becomes moot. To be honest, I think the legal battle will be more about whether they can be designated enemies of the state or not. Now, I could be wrong, and it will be interesting to see how the courts decide, but I see no verbiage in there that leads me to the conclusion that the accused are afforded constitutional rights prior to dismissal. The court may deem that it is implied....but if the process is purely operated through the executive, and that is deemed legal, then I assume they do not.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: So you are distilling this down into a 3rd grade argument about the importance of due process now? Bravo. Sadly, I'm out of gold starts. 🤦♂️ JFC man, it’s the backbone of our legal system, and protects us from arbitrary government overreach.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 Just now, Tnt4philly said: 🤦♂️ JFC man, it’s the backbone of our legal system, and protects us from arbitrary government overreach. Nobody's saying that it isn't.
March 21, 2025Mar 21 3 minutes ago, BBE said: What criteria? Since you read the law and all... I don't know why I have to paste this in here for you. Google it. Whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being males of the age of fourteen years and upwards, who shall be within the United States, and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured and removed, as alien enemies. And the President of the United States shall be, and he is hereby authorized, in any event, as aforesaid, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed, on the part of the United States, towards the aliens who shall become liable, as aforesaid; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject, and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those, who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, shall refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which shall be found necessary in the premises and for the public safety:
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