I'm excited by the 2 guys they drafted but Pierce is not an athlete. The knock on him is that he can't move. I'm not sure if Stout U can fix that.

He's huge but he's not a Jordan Mailata 2.0. If anything he is the opposite as a 4 year player without Mailata's freak quickness.

13 hours ago, SkippyX said:

I'm excited by the 2 guys they drafted but Pierce is not an athlete. The knock on him is that he can't move. I'm not sure if Stout U can fix that.

He's huge but he's not a Jordan Mailata 2.0. If anything he is the opposite as a 4 year player without Mailata's freak quickness.

That's why he is being considered as an OG. He is enormous. If Stouts can teach him to move he'd be frightening

On 5/7/2025 at 12:20 PM, time2rock said:

Stout's track record isn't perfect (Dillard, Steen thus far) but it's been damn good. I'll put my money on him being able to develop at least 1 of these guys into a serviceable (at minimum) starter.

I disagree. I think Stout's track record is perfect. I think he got the most out of Dillard. Coach can only do so much. Eventually it depends on the players ceiling. And we don't know where Steen is at this time. He didn't look bad last year at all. Becton just looked better. AND Steen played well when he was needed. They let Becton walk for reasonable money and I don't think they did it just for the comp pick.

18 hours ago, SkippyX said:

I'm excited by the 2 guys they drafted but Pierce is not an athlete. The knock on him is that he can't move. I'm not sure if Stout U can fix that.

He's huge but he's not a Jordan Mailata 2.0. If anything he is the opposite as a 4 year player without Mailata's freak quickness.

Time will tell. The chances of hitting on all three are very very low.

On 5/15/2025 at 8:30 PM, weko said:

Hard to find young healthy cheap left tackles. You usually have to draft them. I think Steen can play left tackle much better than OG and should have value around the league. If someone were to inquire about his availability I'd listen and would move him for a 4. He's nothing special at OG and we have 7 or 8 other guys who can compete at that position. We don't need Steen. I'd find out his value around the league and would look to move him in training camp. If a team had an injury at left tackle I'd be on the phone seeing if there was any interest.

Why do we not need Steen more than we dont need any of the other Guards on the roster?

To my knowledge he didnt play LT in college he played RT.

I think hes a solid option at OG and hes still fairly cheap on his rookie contract.

I imagine hell be starting RG opening day barring injury.

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

Time will tell. The chances of hitting on all three are very very low.

I will be thrilled if 1 of 3 is a good player.

27 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

I will be thrilled if 1 of 3 is a good player.

I believe we will get 3 of 4 from Kendall. Hinton, Williams, and Pierce.

On 5/16/2025 at 10:10 PM, Utebird said:

Why do we not need Steen more than we dont need any of the other Guards on the roster?

To my knowledge he didnt play LT in college he played RT.

I think hes a solid option at OG and hes still fairly cheap on his rookie contract.

I imagine hell be starting RG opening day barring injury.

For the 3rd year in a row they will give him every opportunity to start at RG. Unless the light goes on they won't sign him to an extention. Too much promising OL talent in the pipeline and we have many picks next year and you can be sure 1 or 2 high ones will be spent on O line. Bottom line i don't think he's very good and I would rather have a 2027 4th round pick if we could get one for him and I think he has value at OT. Teams wants Stout trained linmen and he's young and cheap and is better outside. I peg his value around a 5 in 2026 which equate to a 4 in 2027, I'd like to start acquiring picks for two drafts from now

2 hours ago, weko said:

For the 3rd year in a row they will give him every opportunity to start at RG. Unless the light goes on they won't sign him to an extention. Too much promising OL talent in the pipeline and we have many picks next year and you can be sure 1 or 2 high ones will be spent on O line. Bottom line i don't think he's very good and I would rather have a 2027 4th round pick if we could get one for him and I think he has value at OT. Teams wants Stout trained linmen and he's young and cheap and is better outside. I peg his value around a 5 in 2026 which equate to a 4 in 2027, I'd like to start acquiring picks for two drafts from now

If it becomes clear to Stoutland that Steen isn’t going to win the RG starter position, it would not surprise me at all if Howie trades him to a Guard-needy team before the start of the season.

4 hours ago, mattwill said:

If it becomes clear to Stoutland that Steen isn’t going to win the RG starter position, it would not surprise me at all if Howie trades him to a Guard-needy team before the start of the season.

I doubt it. OL depth is critical in this league.

I'm glad Stout is STILL HERE. He just doesn't jump ship for bigger $$$. I think Fangio is liking it here long term as well. And Howie has apparently figured out how not to get cute in the draft and just do the right thing and make the right pick. Reagor was when he learned his lesson. 👍🏻

On 5/24/2025 at 7:55 AM, weko said:

For the 3rd year in a row they will give him every opportunity to start at RG. Unless the light goes on they won't sign him to an extention. Too much promising OL talent in the pipeline and we have many picks next year and you can be sure 1 or 2 high ones will be spent on O line. Bottom line i don't think he's very good and I would rather have a 2027 4th round pick if we could get one for him and I think he has value at OT. Teams wants Stout trained linmen and he's young and cheap and is better outside. I peg his value around a 5 in 2026 which equate to a 4 in 2027, I'd like to start acquiring picks for two drafts from now

If he proves to be the best RG during camp and wins the starting job do you still want to trade him?

I mean why make a hole when one doesnt need too?

For a 4th or 5 th round pick???

4th and 5th round picks are unknowns, who currently on the roster would you feel comfortable starting 16 games at RG on a superbowl contending team?

Id be Ok with Steen, he has in game experience and has played well in limited opportunities.

Id rather roll with him than take my chance on some unknown.

Then again maybe another guy steps up in camp and shows he can play RG and can make steen expendable in which case you try and get as much as you can for him in a trade

If he wins the starting RG position though I see zero reasons to trade him

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

If he proves to be the best RG during camp and wins the starting job do you still want to trade him?

I mean why make a hole when one doesnt need too?

For a 4th or 5 th round pick???

4th and 5th round picks are unknowns, who currently on the roster would you feel comfortable starting 16 games at RG on a superbowl contending team?

Id be Ok with Steen, he has in game experience and has played well in limited opportunities.

Id rather roll with him than take my chance on some unknown.

Then again maybe another guy steps up in camp and shows he can play RG and can make steen expendable in which case you try and get as much as you can for him in a trade

If he wins the starting RG position though I see zero reasons to trade him

I’m so comfortable with Stoutland that anyone he chooses to start is fine with me. Tommy Lawlor (goeagles99 for long time EMBers and creator of the first Blog) in a podcast with Jonny Page and Shane Haff said he wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Matt Pryor as the Week One starter. @just relax took the time to seek out some of Pryor’s 2024 videos and he was impressed with how patient Pryor has become. He’s really refined his craft especially as a pass blocker. Patience isn’t as necessary in run blocking, so a move from Becton to Pryor would appear to be an improvement in pass blocking and a step back in run blocking.

Pryor starting with Keegan, Green, Kendall, Williams and Hinton as depth gives Stoutland plenty to work with.

On 5/24/2025 at 7:55 AM, weko said:

For the 3rd year in a row they will give him every opportunity to start at RG. Unless the light goes on they won't sign him to an extention. Too much promising OL talent in the pipeline and we have many picks next year and you can be sure 1 or 2 high ones will be spent on O line. Bottom line i don't think he's very good and I would rather have a 2027 4th round pick if we could get one for him and I think he has value at OT. Teams wants Stout trained linmen and he's young and cheap and is better outside. I peg his value around a 5 in 2026 which equate to a 4 in 2027, I'd like to start acquiring picks for two drafts from now

If he proves to be the best RG during camp and wins the starting job do you still want to trade him?

I mean why make a hole when one doesnt need too?

For a 4th or 5 th round pick???

4th and 5th round picks are unknowns, who currently on the roster would you feel comfortable starting 16 games at RG on a superbowl contending team?

Id be Ok with Steen, he has in game experience and has played well in limited opportunities.

Id rather roll with him than take my chance on some unknown.

Then again maybe another guy steps up in camp and shows he can play RG and can make steen expendable in which case you try and get as much as you can for him in a trade

If he wins the starting RG position though I see zero ressons y

On 5/25/2025 at 12:02 PM, mattwill said:

I’m so comfortable with Stoutland that anyone he chooses to start is fine with me. Tommy Lawlor (goeagles99 for long time EMBers and creator of the first Blog) in a podcast with Jonny Page and Shane Haff said he wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Matt Pryor as the Week One starter. @just relax took the time to seek out some of Pryor’s 2024 videos and he was impressed with how patient Pryor has become. He’s really refined his craft especially as a pass blocker. Patience isn’t as necessary in run blocking, so a move from Becton to Pryor would appear to be an improvement in pass blocking and a step back in run blocking.

Pryor starting with Keegan, Green, Kendall, Williams and Hinton as depth gives Stoutland plenty to work with.

Well aware who tommy is, had many a good argument with him back in the day, I havent watched recent pryor, but never been a fan, as for pass blocking and run blocking if the Offense is still going to be run heavy then id imagine theyd want a capable run blocker at RG.

As for the rest of the depth im not sure why so many are quick to write off Steen.

You trust Stout to pick anyone, last year he picked Steen, Steen got hurt Becton Stepped in, i havent seen or heard anything to suggest Stout has lost faith in Steen.

Im guessing Steen will get first crack at RG and if healthy win that spot, I could be wrong but if steen is RG day one will you still trust Stout?

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

If he proves to be the best RG during camp and wins the starting job do you still want to trade him?

I mean why make a hole when one doesnt need too?

For a 4th or 5 th round pick???

4th and 5th round picks are unknowns, who currently on the roster would you feel comfortable starting 16 games at RG on a superbowl contending team?

Id be Ok with Steen, he has in game experience and has played well in limited opportunities.

How are you creating a hole if Pryor has beaten out Steen for the starting RG spot?

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Id rather roll with him than take my chance on some unknown.

Then again maybe another guy steps up in camp and shows he can play RG and can make steen expendable in which case you try and get as much as you can for him in a trade

If he wins the starting RG position though I see zero ressons y

Pryor is an unknown?

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Well aware who tommy is, had many a good argument with him back in the day, I havent watched recent pryor, but never been a fan, as for pass blocking and run blocking if the Offense is still going to be run heavy then id imagine theyd want a capable run blocker at RG.

As for the rest of the depth im not sure why so many are quick to write off Steen.

You trust Stout to pick anyone, last year he picked Steen, Steen got hurt Becton Stepped in, i havent seen or heard anything to suggest Stout has lost faith in Steen.

Im guessing Steen will get first crack at RG and if healthy win that spot, I could be wrong but if steen is RG day one will you still trust Stout?

Pryor is plenty capable as a run blocker. He just isn't a Becton-level run blocker. But neither is Steen.

I'm not anti-Steen. I just think Trader Howie is playing 3D Chess all the time.

A lot of time to figure out who will win the starting RG spot (and to sort out the DC behind the starters), just like Becton last year (pretty much no one saw him as a legit candidate to be the RG at this time last year). Not worried about this in May.

CAPTAIN OBVIOUS STATEMENT --> Pretty safe bet we'll start whoever looks the best and the 2nd best will make the roster as the backup. After that we'll have some others make the roster, some make the practice squad, and some could be trade candidates (or will be cut).