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We are set with Mitchell.

We also have a solid Slot CB De Jean.

Looking at the roster depth, the #1 position that is in question for me is CB opposite to Mitchell..

Perhaps I have not seen proof that Ringo or Ricks can be full time players. Nor do I have enough faith that Jackson is in any way better than the first 2.

Sure the competition is great, but the drop off from Mitchell is significant for the opposing teams , not to pick on, whoever wins that spot.

If we do move De Jean outside...will he be good enough outside?????

Who then will take over the slot CB ?????

A lot of questions.

Hoping Ringo or Ricks proves me wrong and steps up.

Yep. Me 2. The Loss of Slay is big.

CB2 will be the most interesting camp battle of the summer. I'm sure the coaches want to keep DeJean in the slot and will hope that Jackson or Ringo (or Ricks) "wins" the outside spot. And by win, I'm saying that they play good enough to be at least a competent starter (not just be better than the other guys...i.e., the "tallest midget", etc).

If one of those guys doesn't step up, that's when we'll start seeing DeJean on the outside and either Mukuba or McWilliams battle for the slot.

I'm optimistic about Ringo. He has the size and athleticism, he was just 20 years old when he came out and will now be year 2 in Fangio's scheme. He's the guy I want to win that competition. Jackson should at least be a competent starter...maybe not as good as Slay, but he should be good enough to get by.

Definitely a candidate for a training camp trade. I understand the logic for letting Slay go. He's the oldest starting CB in the league and he's due for a decline. Couple that with the fact that they need the money next year and I agree with seeing what Ringo has. But it's scary

Ringo was able to get on the field late in the season as a rookie. He actually performed pretty well when he was out there. If he had been bad, then maybe I'd be worried, but he wasn't and I'm not.

We have good DB Coach so I am not worried too much

We don’t have a solid slot CB… We have a shutdown lock CB in DeJean. But yes opposite Mitchell is a worry. Ringo could develop further but I think he’s got a way to go. Jackson could end up being a decent addition but ultimately the Giants were happy to let him walk. So whoever ends up opposite Mitchell it is going to be a downgrade from Slay.

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

We don’t have a solid slot CB… We have a shutdown lock CB in DeJean. But yes opposite Mitchell is a worry. Ringo could develop further but I think he’s got a way to go. Jackson could end up being a decent addition but ultimately the Giants were happy to let him walk. So whoever ends up opposite Mitchell it is going to be a downgrade from Slay.

Yeah, not only is CB2 a concern but so is CB3 if someone gets hurt. I'd love to see them add another piece there along with safety.

You can't have proven starters at every single position. We all hope Ringo is the man, but if he doesn't win the job, Jackson at least has experience and is not terrible. If there's an injury, I guess Howie would have to acquire someone either via trade or pick up a veteran when teams start trimming their rosters.

It's a sound strategy, we'll see if it works out.

19 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

We don’t have a solid slot CB… We have a shutdown lock CB in DeJean. But yes opposite Mitchell is a worry. Ringo could develop further but I think he’s got a way to go. Jackson could end up being a decent addition but ultimately the Giants were happy to let him walk. So whoever ends up opposite Mitchell it is going to be a downgrade from Slay.

If Ringo still has a ways to go, that would be a sign of just being a bust. He's heading into year 3...he's still young because he was only 20 when joining us, but even still...he should be "ready" to compete at a high level. It's sink or swim time for him.

Giants were also happy to let Saquon and Xavier McKinney walk away too. And we might be adding Ojulari to that list this year too (and perhaps Jackson!). We will see.

But yeah, our CB2 could very well be a downgrade from Slay. That said, we can only base that off of last year, not what how he'll play this year. Ultimately, could be a wash or an actual upgrade. Will be interesting!

Last offseason, we had drafted Mitchell and had Rodgers reinstated. Despite that, Ringo had a good portion of first team reps throughout camp, switching with Rodgers. They were pretty much neck and neck. Now that Slay, Bradberry, Maddox and Rodgers are all gone, we lost some experience in the CB room and have some roster spots to fill. That doesn't mean Ringo is as big a question mark to the team as he is to some of the fans. The Jackson signing adds back some experience, at least through camp this year. But Ringo should be anxious to compete and win the opening created with Slay's departure. He played well as a rookie and continued to play well in camp last year and wasn't bad in his limited snaps on defense either.

I think they'll be fine there, but we'll see. I expect the defense to be solid next season, but I don't think they'll be as dominant as they were last year.

CB was a bigger question mark last year going in than this year in my opinion. So that being said im not worried about it

The Eagles problems a couple of years ago was the whole secondary stunk, nobody could maintain coverage and opposing QB's always had an out before the pass rush could get home. A defense can adjust for a single weak DB in a secondary, even if CB2 is a step below the rest it shouldn't be a huge issue unless they're a completely out of their depth no business in the league disaster which nothing in Ringo or Jackson's career to date has suggested. The FO would have addressed CB earlier in the draft if they had real concerns about it.

23 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Last offseason, we had drafted Mitchell and had Rodgers reinstated. Despite that, Ringo had a good portion of first team reps throughout camp, switching with Rodgers. They were pretty much neck and neck. Now that Slay, Bradberry, Maddox and Rodgers are all gone, we lost some experience in the CB room and have some roster spots to fill. That doesn't mean Ringo is as big a question mark to the team as he is to some of the fans. The Jackson signing adds back some experience, at least through camp this year. But Ringo should be anxious to compete and win the opening created with Slay's departure. He played well as a rookie and continued to play well in camp last year and wasn't bad in his limited snaps on defense either.

Your bolded sentence is the bottom line for me. We fans don’t do well with the uncertainty that comes with change. The coaches deal with change all the time. Fangio has earned our respect and trust. I’m going to trust his judgment on this, and sit back and enjoy the results as they unfold.

I think we need to let this play out. They have been grooming Ringo for a few years now so let’s see if that has finally paid off. It sure doesn’t seem like Fangio is all that worried about it.

10 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I think we need to let this play out. They have been grooming Ringo for a few years now so let’s see if that has finally paid off. It sure doesn’t seem like Fangio is all that worried about it.

You can get locked up for that… 😉

On a serious note though yes I think they should let it play out but I also think they need a plan B if it isn’t working or there are still concerns at the end of TC.

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You can get locked up for that… 😉

On a serious note though yes I think they should let it play out but I also think they need a plan B if it isn’t working or there are still concerns at the end of TC.

Plan B is probably Jackson. However, if he looks terrible and none of the others step up then plan C is probably either Howie dealing one of our 12 2026 picks for a CB or grabbing someone once roster cuts are being made.

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

Plan B is probably Jackson. However, if he looks terrible and none of the others step up then on C is probably either Howie dealing one of our 12 2026 picks for a CB or grabbing someone once roster cuts are being made.

Jackson is someone I'm not even remotely thrilled with, I have zero confidence in that guy but I believe Ringo is ready...we're going to have to put up with a couple grabby flags probably the 1st couple weeks

but hopefully nothing that costs us.

11 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said:

Jackson is someone I'm not even remotely thrilled with, I have zero confidence in that guy but I believe Ringo is ready...we're going to have to put up with a couple grabby flags probably the 1st couple weeks

but hopefully nothing that costs us.

They likely do as well, otherwise we would have used more resources to add someone (other than Jackson in free agency and McWilliams on day 3 of the draft). They did use a future (2024) 3rd rd pick back in 2023 to add that 4th to grab him ... that's fairly significant. Have to figure it is his position to lose right now.

9 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You can get locked up for that… 😉

On a serious note though yes I think they should let it play out but I also think they need a plan B if it isn’t working or there are still concerns at the end of TC.

Right now is it a concern? Maybe, because they lost a lot of talent this offseason especially on defense, but I think it’s going to take a little time before everything fall’s into place.

I am less concerned than most of you because I think DeJean is perfectly capable of moving outside - he is athletically elite and has an extremely high football IQ. With Slay on the roster last year it made no sense to play DeJean anywhere other than slot. That he was terrific there is not an argument that he cannot also be terrific outside -- quite the opposite. And that the Eagles released Slay and did not pick a CB until the 5th round also suggests the team thinks the roster is adequate at outside corner.

That said, it may be that one of the other CBs on the roster is more suited to the outside than slot, so it may make sense again for Coop to stick at slot, but that will be more dependent on the other CBs' skills than DeJean's. If Ricks or Ringo or Adoree or someone else does not prove capable on the outside, I expect Cooper to seamlessly slide outside, and Fangio will find a different solution at slot. And Howie has proven more than capable of finding slot corners when he needs to.

I do worry about the CB depth if Quinyon or Coop were to get injured, but I worry about that at every position.

19 hours ago, time2rock said:

Plan B is probably Jackson. However, if he looks terrible and none of the others step up then plan C is probably either Howie dealing one of our 12 2026 picks for a CB or grabbing someone once roster cuts are being made.

This.

Currently, we have to trust Fangio & his coaching staff. They've seen Ringo in practice, on film from the games he's played, and felt comfortable cutting Slay. They did amazing with last year's roster, training up young guys.

They also had to make some sacrifices on certain positions. The secondary has 3 returning starters who are solid. Mukuba is likely starter opposite Reed. They strengthened LB and added to D line depth, with young players stepping up like Hunt & Ojomo.

Overall, the defense will be a top in the league again. They will compensate for changes.

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