Has anyone else noticed the Eagles have all but eliminated the RPO from their offense? Not sure if they’re just trying to work out the kinks of their new plays, but they’re not running a lot of run/pass option plays. They seem to mostly be running a base pro style offense with an emphasis on having a fullback. Franky it seems like it’s hurting the pass offense as well as the run game. The Barkley big runs are gone. The vertical deep pass is gone. Mostly a lot of short dink and dunk passes. Hurts runs are just scrambles now and not a lot of designed runs. The offense as a whole feels completely different from last season and they’re struggling out there with it. Two games in and frankly none of the Eagles big players on offense have stood out. Yes they are winning right now, but it’s hard to ignore how poor this offense is looking at times. It kind of reminds of how the team looked after they lost that first SB to the Chiefs. At one point that team was 10-1 in control of their own destiny, and then they were taken to task by the 49ers and completely fell apart. I hope this team can figure it out, and I don’t really want to be the guy complaining about 2-0, but there are some concerning signs here.

2023 did happen. So did 2024 where we looked shaky on offense for the first month and then it straightened out. It looks to me like the team is just sticking to the game plan as long as it is producing wins. Let losers like the chief's Chris Jones feel good about his "stats."

I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, I smell it in the air

28 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

2023 did happen. So did 2024 where we looked shaky on offense for the first month and then it straightened out. It looks to me like the team is just sticking to the game plan as long as it is producing wins. Let losers like the chief's Chris Jones feel good about his "stats."

I acknowledge that the first four games of the season aren’t really an indicator of what the season will be as a whole, but I also understand and that signs shouldn’t be ignored. Good to see we aren’t turning the ball over. It’s also troubling to see Barkley not go over 100 yards rushing yet, and no real explosive plays by the offense yet. The offensive line has struggled a bit too. It’s not just one player that’s concerning. It’s their entire offense that has me concerned. At least in 2024 (unlike 2023) they had an experienced play caller to rely on.

30 minutes ago, Vlad67 said:

I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, I smell it in the air

Even their actions this season feel eerily close to what happened after that first Super Bowl against the Chiefs. They were so adamant about trying to distance themselves from that team, and this year they didn’t even want to be out there when the banner went down. I really hope they figure this all out soon. It doesn’t seem like it should be this difficult to run some plays to get AJ Brown the ball and running these base run plays are making Barkley just look like an average back.

I'd like to see more offensively, but it's still early. We've played Dallas in a divisional game that was really disrupted by the storm, and won. We've played the AFC champs on the road, and won. Not sure we can read too much into those games, they were never going to be truly indicative (edited for typo)

I'm gonna preface this with: Yes, we're 2-0 and wins are what matters. But, it's also okay to talk about what is wrong with the offense through 2 games. They've won, but the offense just hasn't looked good.

The 10-1 run in the 2023 season was all smoke and mirrors (and a lot of luck) until the wheels completely fell off.

In 2024 they were 2-2 with a struggling passing offense until the OL went into Sirianni's office and pleaded to run the ball...then the offense took off and Barkley's magical season ensued.

Through 2 games this year, they're winning with good defense and an offense where the best thing you can say so far is that they haven't turned the ball over. They've also benefitted from a little luck with the big drops by Lamb and Kelce. In both games so far, they've had a key takeaway at a key time which really was the difference in each game.

The offense just looks...blah. Teams are focused on stopping the run first and foremost and that will continue all year until the passing game kicks in gear. What's wrong with the passing game? Hard to say, but it's not new. Winning is keeping their deficiency in this area out of the spotlight. Is it Patullo? Hurts? Sirianni? I tend to lean towards Sirianni at this point. With the talent that is on offense, it's crazy how receivers aren't schemed open much. I still think Sirianni's philosophy is that they're just more talented and will therefore win their matchups in a basic design type of play.

They're gonna have to get the pass game going in order to run the ball more effectively.

The play calling is so passive and they are really slowing the game down. I hated the play calls on 3rd and long. Plays that clearly wouldn’t gain a 1st down. They also ran the play clock down practically every play. I want an aggressive offense that puts pressure of the defense to stop them.

9 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

The play calling is so passive and they are really slowing the game down. I hated the play calls on 3rd and long. Plays that clearly wouldn’t gain a 1st down. They also ran the play clock down practically every play. I want an aggressive offense that puts pressure of the defense to stop them.

I noticed the game moved very quickly, because they ran the clock down almost every play, and maybe that was by design to keep Mahomes on the sidelines. They won with it and that’s true. They also moved the ball against the Cowboys before the delay. It’s difficult to put a finger on what this offense really is, but they’re not going to beat everyone slogging down the field or every third and long running a draw.

1 hour ago, kiwinavega said:

I'd like to see more offensively, but it's still early. We've played Dallas in a divisional game that was really disrupted by the storm, and won. We've played the AFC champs on the road, and won. Not sure we can read too much into those games, they were never going to be truly indicative (edited for typo)

The style of the offense was similar in both games. They seem to want to run a lot of short yardage plays. They seem to have focused their offense around 18+ carries from Barkley and a lot of short passes. The Chiefs sent a lot of pressure and it didn’t quite feel like the offense did enough to capitalize on it. How about a roll out play to get Jalen out of the pressure and out of the pocket? How about some not pick (pick) plays to get the ball to Brown? I mean the biggest play made by the offense as a whole was a prayer pass to Smith.

1 hour ago, EaglesAddict said:

I'm gonna preface this with: Yes, we're 2-0 and wins are what matters. But, it's also okay to talk about what is wrong with the offense through 2 games. They've won, but the offense just hasn't looked good.

The 10-1 run in the 2023 season was all smoke and mirrors (and a lot of luck) until the wheels completely fell off.

In 2024 they were 2-2 with a struggling passing offense until the OL went into Sirianni's office and pleaded to run the ball...then the offense took off and Barkley's magical season ensued.

Through 2 games this year, they're winning with good defense and an offense where the best thing you can say so far is that they haven't turned the ball over. They've also benefitted from a little luck with the big drops by Lamb and Kelce. In both games so far, they've had a key takeaway at a key time which really was the difference in each game.

The offense just looks...blah. Teams are focused on stopping the run first and foremost and that will continue all year until the passing game kicks in gear. What's wrong with the passing game? Hard to say, but it's not new. Winning is keeping their deficiency in this area out of the spotlight. Is it Patullo? Hurts? Sirianni? I tend to lean towards Sirianni at this point. With the talent that is on offense, it's crazy how receivers aren't schemed open much. I still think Sirianni's philosophy is that they're just more talented and will therefore win their matchups in a basic design type of play.

They're gonna have to get the pass game going in order to run the ball more effectively.

If they’re going to move towards a pro style offense then I think they need to find ways to be more efficient with their offense. Overall were they more clutch than the Chiefs and the Cowboys in both games? Yes after all they made the key plays when it mattered while those teams had killer turnovers that ultimately cost them. They’re winning games at a difficult point in their season as well. Sure there’s a lot to like and a lot to respect, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore the red flags.

This offense feels reminiscent of 80s-90s run first football aided by a strong defense. It’s been a style of football that in the past won a lot of championships too though.

Well the defense being one of the worst in the league had a lot to do with the 2023 debacle. Im hoping history does not repeat itself but the O def looks like 2023 .

I don’t care what they do but not having play action and motion in the offense isn’t going to work.

Agree about the playaction and motion. I'd like to see them sprinkle a bit more RPO on there and a designed QB run or two that isn't just an improvised scramble

We keep hearing different arguments. It's Siri's offense. But it looks different with each OC. But Hurts said the offense looks the way it does because that's what he wants to do. But he also says he has to adjust to new OC's every year. The arguments are all over the place.

Very odd, and yet they still win.

56 minutes ago, NOTW said:

We keep hearing different arguments. It's Siri's offense. But it looks different with each OC. But Hurts said the offense looks the way it does because that's what he wants to do. But he also says he has to adjust to new OC's every year. The arguments are all over the place.

Very odd, and yet they still win.

It's only Siri's offense when it sucks

4 hours ago, Vlad67 said:

I smell it in the air

Sorry, I ate too many beans.

Same thing happened the last time we lost an experienced OC (Steichen) and promoted internally with an inexperienced play caller (Johnson). But is is only 2 games into the season in this new role so hopefully they get things figured out and everything starts to click.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

We keep hearing different arguments. It's Siri's offense. But it looks different with each OC. But Hurts said the offense looks the way it does because that's what he wants to do. But he also says he has to adjust to new OC's every year. The arguments are all over the place.

Very odd, and yet they still win.

Well I’m not putting this on Siri, but the offense just looks different. Not sure whose offense this is actually. I know Siri isn’t calling the plays. It also feels like they have all but eliminated the RPO from their play calling. It’s very different from what they were calling even last season, and if that’s the case I think I can understand some of the hesitation from Hurts on where to throw the ball. Short quick read passes seem to be the offense now. The runs from Hurts are busted plays. It’s still only two weeks in so much can change, but this feels very different from previous seasons with Siriani as head coach.

27 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Same thing happened the last time we lost an experienced OC (Steichen) and promoted internally with an inexperienced play caller (Johnson). But is is only 2 games into the season in this new role so hopefully they get things figured out and everything starts to click.

Yeah, but I don’t remember them just abandoning the RPO though.

3 hours ago, manz2821 said:

Well the defense being one of the worst in the league had a lot to do with the 2023 debacle. Im hoping history does not repeat itself but the O def looks like 2023 .

It is a plus to have a competent defense with a competent defensive coordinator. Also a very good special teams. Both kickers have been solid this year and the coverages have been mostly good too. It gives the offense some leeway to develop and grow for sure. Still when you look at this team and see where the veteran presence is and all of the money it’s on the offensive side of the ball. You would expect a bit more consistency than we are getting.

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

It's only Siri's offense when it sucks

Well someone has to have some accountability in this situation too right? I think that QB/OC/HC all share some part in this.

We're concerned every year about the offense, play calling, Hurts' passing and creativity.

It would be nice to see them settle in and show more in the next couple weeks rather than later in the season. By promoting Patullo who has been here, it was supposed to bring consistency and not much drop off (they said that about Brian Johnson too).

Maybe a team with superstars, veterans and in a Super Bowl window should stop taking chances on first time play callers and instead stick with experienced guys.

6 hours ago, brkmsn said:

2023 did happen. So did 2024 where we looked shaky on offense for the first month and then it straightened out. It looks to me like the team is just sticking to the game plan as long as it is producing wins. Let losers like the chief's Chris Jones feel good about his "stats."

If all but one starter is back there should be no reason for it to look this sluggish or shakey past play design and that is on yhe OC. Two yesterday with DG out and that is a problem because they need a backup TE but still.

Vic has vastly more experience on the other side but has new starters at DT, LB, S, and CB2 and they mostly have their crap together or at least trending in a positive way past Jackson.

When you have mostly the same players, supposedly in the same system, which is why they promoted him, it shouldn't look that bad.

The sky isn't falling yet but he does not look prepared to be an OC.