Just now, NOTW said:

We're concerned every year about the offense, play calling, Hurts' passing and creativity.

It would be nice to see them settle in and show more in the next couple weeks rather than later in the season. By promoting Patullo who has been here, it was supposed to bring consistency and not much drop off (they said that about Brian Johnson too).

Maybe a team with superstars, veterans and in a Super Bowl window should stop taking chances on first time play callers and instead stick with experienced guys.

100% agree with this. I mean that same mindset worked for the defense so why not do it for the offense. Maybe it’s time to get someone in there who’s isn’t looking to become the next great young head coach and give the job to an old guy who will stick around for a while.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

We're concerned every year about the offense, play calling, Hurts' passing and creativity.

It would be nice to see them settle in and show more in the next couple weeks rather than later in the season. By promoting Patullo who has been here, it was supposed to bring consistency and not much drop off (they said that about Brian Johnson too).

Maybe a team with superstars, veterans and in a Super Bowl window should stop taking chances on first time play callers and instead stick with experienced guys.

In a perfect world they need an old guy like Vic on that side who won't end up leaving for a HC job

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

If all but one starter is back there should be no reason for it to look this sluggish or shakey past play design and that is on yhe OC. Two yesterday with DG out and that is a problem because they need a backup TE but still.

Vic has vastly more experience on the other side but has new starters at DT, LB, S, and CB2 and they mostly have their crap together or at least trending in a positive way past Jackson.

When you have mostly the same players, supposedly in the same system, which is why they promoted him, it shouldn't look that bad.

The sky isn't falling yet but he does not look prepared to be an OC.

I don’t think it’s all solely on the OC, but they really need to do a better job of building this offense up. They’re really not running the ball as efficiently as they did last year either. When you see us struggle against the Cowboys and the Chiefs while the Chargers and Giants explode on them respectively (considering the Eagles talent) something isn’t right.

This is nothing new. The offense has been like this for a few seasons. Even last year the Offense would fall into a lull of incompetence for stretches at a time in games.. The season prior being the most egregious. Its hard for me to believe that we have so utterly incompetent OC's to the point that they cant even utilize one of the best offensive rosters in the league. The only common denominator and trend in all of this is Hurts and Siri.

With that said. We have way too much cap invested in the offense to justify such **** offensive production.

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

Same thing happened the last time we lost an experienced OC (Steichen) and promoted internally with an inexperienced play caller (Johnson). But is is only 2 games into the season in this new role so hopefully they get things figured out and everything starts to click.

I mean things should already be figured out its the exact same offensive personnel from last year.. You're also hiring internally. If your OC is still "figuring things out" then maybe you shouldn't have hired him..

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

We're concerned every year about the offense, play calling, Hurts' passing and creativity.

It would be nice to see them settle in and show more in the next couple weeks rather than later in the season. By promoting Patullo who has been here, it was supposed to bring consistency and not much drop off (they said that about Brian Johnson too).

Maybe a team with superstars, veterans and in a Super Bowl window should stop taking chances on first time play callers and instead stick with experienced guys.

Settling in is nice. Championships are better.

1 minute ago, Swimm said:

This is nothing new. The offense has been like this for a few seasons. Even last year the Offense would fall into a lull of incompetence for stretches at a time in games.. The season prior being the most egregious. Its hard for me to believe that we have so utterly incompetent OC's to the point that they cant even utilize one of the best offensive rosters in the league. The only common denominator and trend in all of this is Hurts and Siri.

With that said. We have way too much cap invested in the offense to justify such **** offensive production.

Another consistently is their lack of consistency at the OC position. Don’t know why they keep having this issue, but they really need to find someone who is going to stay in the building longer than one season.

1 minute ago, Swimm said:

I mean things should already be figured out its the exact same offensive personnel from last year.. You're also hiring internally. If your OC is still "figuring things out" then maybe you shouldn't have hired him..

To me this doesn’t even seem like the same offense. Gone are even the explosive running plays. The RPOs have stopped. Every pass seems short and only short.

8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

In a perfect world they need an old guy like Vic on that side who won't end up leaving for a HC job

They keep having this issue because the Eagles frequently go deep in the playoffs, other organisations want to take a bet on whether our coordinators can be head coaches, our coordinators want to test themselves and have ambition. It's a signal of a successful franchise and a cross we have to bear. If we keep winning, it will keep happening and there's not a thing we can do about that. It's the price of success I'm afraid

15 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

If all but one starter is back there should be no reason for it to look this sluggish or shakey past play design and that is on yhe OC. Two yesterday with DG out and that is a problem because they need a backup TE but still.

Vic has vastly more experience on the other side but has new starters at DT, LB, S, and CB2 and they mostly have their crap together or at least trending in a positive way past Jackson.

When you have mostly the same players, supposedly in the same system, which is why they promoted him, it shouldn't look that bad.

The sky isn't falling yet but he does not look prepared to be an OC.

Not to be that guy, but the two games we've played so far are always going to be outliers on our schedule in any given year. Dallas at home, Chiefs on the road. They both hit different. I think we need to give it a while before leaping to any conclusions (not that I am saying you are), especially as we are winning. Yes, I remember 2023 as well, but I also remember 2024....

29 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Vic has vastly more experience on the other side but has new starters at DT, LB, S, and CB2 and they mostly have their crap together or at least trending in a positive way past Jackson.

Jackson appeared to me to be vastly improved over Week One. Less cushion and much closer coverage. How did everyone else feel about his performance?

Remember AJ Brown said the Eagles needed to fix the passing game like in week 13 last season?

I do think it's a lingering problem. The good news is when the passing game clicks, the Eagles destroy their opposition. While they find that groove, it's nice that they're winning anyway.

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Jackson appeared to me to be vastly improved over Week One. Less cushion and much closer coverage. How did everyone else feel about his performance?

I saw him get lucky a few times because he was out of position and it was either a bad throw or the guy dropped it.

The upcoming Rams will set this straight.

Rams are going to put points on the board. They will do it in short, quick spurts.

This team will have to score at least 30 to win next week. We will see how the offense adjusts when it has to play from behind.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

In a perfect world they need an old guy like Vic on that side who won't end up leaving for a HC job

The perfect candidates for coordinators are actually coaches that were really good coordinators, tried being a HC and failed and got fired, and are looking to settle somewhere and have continued success as a coordinator. These days if you're a young up and coming coordinator or even position coach, you get snatched up for a HC job after a year or two.

You think they would learn- never hire an UNPROVEN, inexperienced OC.

Saquan said it last year and I'm sure it goes for this year too... 1st 4 games are their pre season. They're not gonna open up their play book. I'm not worried at all. I said it before the season started... I'm giving KP 4-5 weeks as our players are good enough to overcome poor players calling. Lets not forget we did look pretty good early against DallASS. Also missing Goedert is huge against teams that blitz as much as KC did (60%)

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

I saw him get lucky a few times because he was out of position and it was either a bad throw or the guy dropped it.

The fact that it was just "a few times" is a whole lot better than it was against the Cowboys. Progress is progress.

46 minutes ago, NOTW said:

The perfect candidates for coordinators are actually coaches that were really good coordinators, tried being a HC and failed and got fired, and are looking to settle somewhere and have continued success as a coordinator. These days if you're a young up and coming coordinator or even position coach, you get snatched up for a HC job after a year or two.

Exactly

3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah, but I don’t remember them just abandoning the RPO though.

No I just meant about the offense looking like 💩. Good point by you about abandoning the RPO though.

3 hours ago, Swimm said:

I mean things should already be figured out its the exact same offensive personnel from last year.. You're also hiring internally. If your OC is still "figuring things out" then maybe you shouldn't have hired him..

I most definitely do not disagree. I’m on record here as saying for a team that has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations they should not be hiring someone who is learning on the job. We all see how they went last time … and conversely how much better it went when we hired someone who did have quite a bit of playcalling experience (Moore). My final comment about only 2 weeks was made completely out of hope.

1 hour ago, Portyansky said:

Saquan said it last year and I'm sure it goes for this year too... 1st 4 games are their pre season. They're not gonna open up their play book. I'm not worried at all. I said it before the season started... I'm giving KP 4-5 weeks as our players are good enough to overcome poor players calling. Lets not forget we did look pretty good early against DallASS. Also missing Goedert is huge against teams that blitz as much as KC did (60%)

Yesterday Smitty said similar in his interview, he said there are always things to be ironed out, it's the same every year whether the OC is new or not, he said it's only week 2. I'd like to see improvement sooner rather than later in the season though.

2 hours ago, Vee said:

The upcoming Rams will set this straight.

Rams are going to put points on the board. They will do it in short, quick spurts.

This team will have to score at least 30 to win next week. We will see how the offense adjusts when it has to play from behind.

Maybe, or maybe they run that slow paced offense to keep Stafford and those receivers off the field.

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

No I just meant about TJ offense looking like 💩. Good point by you about abandoning the RPO though.

TJ?

Patullo tells the defense to a 97% certainty if its run or pass by formation.

This makes him incompetent. Its not really a gray area.

He should stop being incompetent.