Posted October 10, 2025Oct 10 Does the Eagles' offense in 2025 actually have an identity?The Eagles' offense is far too talented to look as aimless as it has through five games in 2025.By Dave Zangaro • Published October 7, 2025The Eagles’ offensive identity was clearly defined for most of the 2024 season.They leaned on their elite offensive line and superstar running back. They had the best rushing attack in the NFL and rode it into the playoffs and then to the Super Bowl. And when they needed to pass the ball in the postseason, they were able to do it and hoist the Lombardi Trophy.But what is this offense in 2025?Because the Eagles haven’t been very good at running the ball this season. Saquon Barkley might be the same guy, but the holes don’t look the same and the explosive runs are nonexistent through five games behind a line that isn’t quite as elite. And there are moments where they pass the ball effectively, but they are also going 3-and-out at an alarming rate. They’re very hot and cold.The Eagles are 4-1, but it’s a little unclear just what they are exactly on offense. The day after their first loss of the season, head coach Nick Sirianni was asked what they can lean on going forward."We have the players to be able to run and pass,” Sirianni said on Monday. "That’s how we feel. And you want to dictate to the defense what you want to do. But there are times you also … you can’t just force something in there. You have to take what they give you in the run game and in the pass game no matter what. And so we have a lot of confidence and we gotta build on that."We have to finish a game. We have to play a game all the way through, coaching, playing, everything. I think that’s something that we have is the ability with the players we have on this team, the ability to do it multiple ways. And we just have to do it and coach it more consistently.”We saw some of that strategy in their Week 5 loss to the Broncos. The Eagles went with a super heavy passing attack and even though it dried up in the second half, it was effective through the first two quarters (and a drive in the third), as Sirianni pointed out on Monday.The Eagles also reintroduced their RPO (run-pass option) game against the Broncos and found some success with that too."I think every game dictates different things,” Sirianni said. "Yesterday, we saw opportunity in the pass game to be able to take advantage of a couple things and a couple matchups that we were getting. I think for a majority of the first half and the first drive in the second half, we were having a lot of success with that. Throwing for 200+ yards in a little bit over two quarters of work."And then some other things that happened that we didn’t finish out that game. But I think that every game calls for something different. We had some RPOs yesterday that were really good. Sometimes RPOs aren’t going to be good based off of how they’re doing.”So what’s the issue? It’s probably not just one thing. The most obvious answer is that new offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo is the problem. But plenty of the issues we’re seeing in 2025 pre-date his promotion to that position. While there’s no doubt that Patullo can be better, it’s probably unfair to pin this all on him.OK, so what else? The offensive line, like we mentioned, hasn’t been quite as elite thanks to injuries and perhaps attrition. Aside from that, execution has been lacking. Mental errors have been abundant. They keep getting behind the sticks. The Eagles somehow can’t seem to get to the line of scrimmage quickly enough. Jalen Hurts has been inconsistent. Receivers look lost on scramble drills.There are a lot of issues that have prevented this offense from hitting its ceiling and perhaps finding an identity.Here’s where the Eagles’ offense stands after five weeks in several key categories:Yards: 261.6 per game (30th)Passing yards: 161.8 per game (31st)Rushing yards: 99.8 per game (25th)Rushing success rate: 43.0% (13th)Red zone efficiency: 92.3% (1st)EPA/play: -0.03 (18th)EPA/pass: -0.09 (23rd)EPA/rush: +0.04 (6th)The one area on offense the Eagles have been elite in 2025 has been in the red zone. And on their first trip inside the 20 against the Broncos they were held to a field goal for the first time all season.Sometimes the talk of identity can be a little overblown. Ideally, the Eagles want to be good at multiple things. Like Sirianni said on Monday, the hope is, that with all their talent, they should be good at running the ball and passing it. That has not happened so far.We’re already over a month into the 2025 season and this offense is far from good enough. There’s still time to figure it out but they better hurry. Because Sirianni is right about one thing: There is a lot of offensive talent on this team.Way too much for it to look like this.https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/does-the-eagles-offense-in-2025-actually-have-an-identity/688389/
October 11, 2025Oct 11 Yes this offense has an identity… Sloppy and poor! That’s how they’ve been so far and to be honest I’m not sure they are going to turn that around. It all just feels like it’s broken.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Author Our identity is and should continue to be as a run-based offense - it worked so well in 2024 that it led to a Super Bowl championship. The fact that they've purposely gone away from that (the run-pass ratio is heavily skewed in favor of the pass) is mind-boggling. How many times do the players need to approach the coaches and ask to run the f^*%&ing ball to get us back on track?!?!
October 13, 2025Oct 13 9 minutes ago, time2rock said:Our identity is and should continue to be as a run-based offense - it worked so well in 2024 that it led to a Super Bowl championship. The fact that they've purposely gone away from that (the run-pass ratio is heavily skewed in favor of the pass) is mind-boggling. How many times do the players need to approach the coaches and ask to run the f^*%&ing ball to get us back on track?!?!I’m not sure it’s so much that they’ve gone away from it? They can’t seem to effectively run the ball this year so far and certainly not consistently.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Author 10 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:I’m not sure it’s so much that they’ve gone away from it? They can’t seem to effectively run the ball this year so far and certainly not consistently.Against NY: 13 carries (by RBs) to 33 passes.Against Denver: 9 carries (by RBs) to 38 passes.It has been ineffective because play design is junior high BS ... just keep trying to run it up the middle. Zero creativity.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:I’m not sure it’s so much that they’ve gone away from it? They can’t seem to effectively run the ball this year so far and certainly not consistently.Yeah, I don't see it as they've "gone away from it". They just literally can't run the ball. Can't pass it either though.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 2 minutes ago, time2rock said:Against NY: 13 carries (by RBs) to 33 passes.Against Denver: 9 carries (by RBs) to 38 passes.It has been ineffective because play design is junior high BS ... just keep trying to run it up the middle. Zero creativity.Oh I don’t disagree the play calling has been awful and uncreative but the OL has struggled.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Just now, time2rock said:Against NY: 13 carries (by RBs) to 33 passes.Against Denver: 9 carries (by RBs) to 38 passes.It has been ineffective because play design is junior high BS ... just keep trying to run it up the middle. Zero creativity.I agree that the play designs stink...but the OL just hasn't looked good. They simply just can't run the ball effectively. They can't do anything effectively...consistently, anyway. It seems degraded OL play is causing/exposing other issues and the Patullo/Hurts combo is struggling.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Author 42 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:Yeah, I don't see it as they've "gone away from it". They just literally can't run the ball. Can't pass it either though. The numbers speak for themselves (see above). You say they're not effective running it ... so they've gone away from it. I have acknowledged multiple times the fact that injuries are likely one of the main culprits for the offense's performance. Obviously play design stinks as well. But to have a double digit lead going into the 4th quarter and you only give Saquon ONE carry the entire 2nd half (Denver) is ridiculous.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 17 minutes ago, time2rock said:The numbers speak for themselves (see above). You say they're not effective running it ... so they've gone away from it. I have acknowledged multiple times the fact that injuries are likely one of the main culprits for the offense's performance. Obviously play design stinks as well. But to have a double digit lead going into the 4th quarter and you only give Saquon ONE carry the entire 2nd half (Denver) is ridiculous.I'd argue the reason for the numbers you point out is because they know they can't run it. If you're struggling doing it, going 3 and out and an incredible rate, what are they gonna do? Keep doing that?Do they need to run the ball more? Yes...but that comes with the caveat that they can start doing it effectively. Right now, they just can't do anything effectively
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Author 24 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:I'd argue the reason for the numbers you point out is because they know they can't run it. If you're struggling doing it, going 3 and out and an incredible rate, what are they gonna do? Keep doing that?Do they need to run the ball more? Yes...but that comes with the caveat that they can start doing it effectively. Right now, they just can't do anything effectivelyYeah that's a good point.Hopefully they can get a bit more creative in the running game to allow it to be more effective, even with the injuries we are dealing with.But players in the past have spoken out on this subject and said that the more they do it the more they get into a groove of doing it which allows it to become more effective.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 26 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:Do they need to run the ball more? Yes...but that comes with the caveat that they can start doing it effectively. Right now, they just can't do anything effectivelyAnd here lies the problem right… they can’t run the ball effectively and consistently but they can’t pass the ball consistently either. We keep hearing that the run opens up the pass or that the pass opens up the run. But ultimately you need to do both effectively to keep a defense honest and to force them to think. If we can’t pass or run and we keep going 3 and out then we have no chance.
October 13, 2025Oct 13 4 minutes ago, time2rock said:Yeah that's a good point.Hopefully they can get a bit more creative in the running game to allow it to be more effective, even with the injuries we are dealing with.But players in the past have spoken out on this subject and said that the more they do it the more they get into a groove of doing it which allows it to become more effective.Hopefully what Lane Johnson said after the game resonates with everyone, particularly the coaching staff. Johnson said they've been too predictable and have lacked in-game adjustments (the key points).
October 13, 2025Oct 13 Author 2 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:Hopefully what Lane Johnson said after the game resonates with everyone, particularly the coaching staff. Johnson said they've been too predictable and have lacked in-game adjustments (the key points).Wonder who those comments are indirectly directed at?? Hmmmm
October 13, 2025Oct 13 5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:And here lies the problem right… they can’t run the ball effectively and consistently but they can’t pass the ball consistently either. We keep hearing that the run opens up the pass or that the pass opens up the run. But ultimately you need to do both effectively to keep a defense honest and to force them to think. If we can’t pass or run and we keep going 3 and out then we have no chance.Exactly. They lead the league in 3 and outs....that's, uh, not good!
October 13, 2025Oct 13 1 minute ago, time2rock said:Wonder who those comments are indirectly directed at?? Hmmmm Most definitely. And Hurts had a recent comment: "I think it's like having all the same ingredients but having a different chef in the kitchen"More indirectly direct to you know who!
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