2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Vic had direct personal knowledge of this player, having coached him to his best season and better knowledge of him as a player and person than anyone in the Eagles organization and you actually think Howie wouldn't consult with him? Really? That's stupendous. I guess you think Howie just reads tea leaves. I recall a few years back when Howie traded for Ajayi. He consulted with Pederson before making that trade and that's a matter of record.

You act like he hasn't consulted with his coaches before getting a player...

I said it's possible because it's happened before. I didn't say it happened or not this particular time. Keep up

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

I'd think in this case he would have talked to Vic but he evidently hasn't on the CBs this year. Who knows. We can speculate and assume but we don't know.

Evidently? That means based on evidence. What evidence?

19 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Right, he's 26. Of course when he was less than 12 months post op on ACL he wouldn't be the same player. Since he's been a year removed from surgery he's been very good. And there's a good chance he keeps getting stronger. That's what you are betting on for pick 90+. Seems like a reasonable bet

I said Yesterday I thought a 3 was a reasonable price for a top 20 1st round pick who's solid against pass and run that had been good enough even with injuries for Miami to pick up his 5th year and I stand by that.

If he can put the injuries behind him his upside is incredible, even if he doesn't develop from where he is now he's a solid addition to the rotation, right now he can probably put up Josh Sweat numbers, if he stays healthy and kicks on to his potential he could be a real top end edge.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

You act like he hasn't consulted with his coaches before getting a player...

I said it's possible because it's happened before. I didn't say it happened or not this particular time. Keep up

There is a finite possibility but a miniscule likelihood.

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Absolutely. If he didn't have input I'm worried. If he did then I'm excited. Remember, he is the guy who wanted Hunt who struggled a bit early but had a good game and played well at the end of last year. I trust his input on players especially if they have played for him in the past.

Now, if for some reason Howie didn't talk to Vic that's another story. I can't imagine he wouldn't have in this situation, though.

I'm fairly certain that it was reported as recently as a few days ago that Phillips was one of the guys Fangio really liked from his Miami days.

Just now, just relax said:

There is a finite possibility but a miniscule likelihood.

33 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He signed huff. Meanwhile fangio said he was fine losing CJGJ, he was involved in drafting Campbell and kuba. Besides Bryce huff, the rest of the guys given to fangio weren’t exactly highly priced guys and were flyers. Also a lot more times they’ve asked him about things he has been ok with and wanted. He needed to ask fangio about adoree Jackson? who likely if ringo did his job well might not even be here anymore.

I’d be really shocked if the Eagles didn’t go to Fangio about the guy he worked with in Miami before making that trade to get as much intel as possible.

Hunt was a big Vic guy as well

I'm skeptical that we're going to get anything out of Carter or Alexander. However, Graham and Phillips are excellent players that, along with the return of Nolan Smith, should transform this defense into something closer to what it was last year. History shows you can get away with having one bad corner.

I can see how a player not "finishing" a sack would be frustrating to fans. But pressures are also super important. Especially when you have good DTs and LBs who can clean up a QB who gets flushed out.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I’ll bet you your favorite morning beverage against my favorite morning beverage. The loser can set up a prepaid order at the location of choice. My beverage will be a cafe mocha at Peet’s.

Hah deal. I only drink water in the morning (I am weird), but if they get a 4 or 5 out of this I got you.

Like what Howie has done thus far. Backup nickel CB in case Dejean has to kick outside or God forbid gets hurt. Alexander in case Bennett and Ringo can't cut it. Phillips just boosts a DL that has BG and Smith coming back. They are a little light at DT but I expect Phillips and BG to have some snaps there as well.

This roster feels a lot more complete than it did last week. Toth's performance last week calmed alot of the concerns I had about interior OL. Fred Johnson is next tackle up and has played well when called up. And, who knows, maybe Opeta and Pryor might be able to handle OG spots in event of injury.

14 minutes ago, just relax said:

Evidently? That means based on evidence. What evidence?

Him in a press conference saying that about Jackson

Just now, DEagle7 said:

I can see how a player not "finishing" a sack would be frustrating to fans. But pressures are also super important. Especially when you have good DTs and LBs who can clean up a QB who gets flushed out.

Generating pressures is on base percentage. Sacks are batting average. From a 30,000’ view, on base percentage is a huge help to the team.

But sometimes, you just need a base hit to drive in runs. Pressures end plays and sacks end drives. Yes, there is INT factor, but that’s not a multiple time per game occurrence.

58 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Means nothing.

He's fine player - doesn't mean I have to like him personally.

1 hour ago, Cliftoma said:

Not that I put much stock in Florio and Simms takes but they seem to think the Eagles got an elite player who may be fully back by the time playoffs start. They also say that he was one of the only players that liked Fangio in Miami and that Fangio liked him

NBC Sports

Eagles acquire EDGE Phillips from Dolphins

"The rich get richer” according to Mike Florio and Chris Simms as the Eagles acquire edge rusher Jaelan Phillips from the Dolphins before the trade deadline.

Phillips and Fangio leaving a dumpster fire team for a Super Bowl champion team.

Well, this was something to wake up to...after looking at it, I like the move for a few reasons.

1. Giving up our own 3rd is basically giving up a 4th (hopefully pick 96). We kept the Jets' 3rd, so we should have 3 picks in the top 70 of this draft, and we can target areas of need (OL, CB, maybe TE or Edge) while still having a 3rd round comp pick, 2 4ths and 2 5ths. 8 picks, and I'm not sure there's room for 8 rookies on this roster next year anyway. Yeah, I'd love to have given our 4th, but that's basically a 5th, and Dolphins wouldn't go for that. Keeping the Jets pick is the key IMO.

2. Vic clearly signed off on this and likes the guy. He knows the system and thrived under Vic in 2023.

3. He has been one of the better edge rushers in the league over the last month.

4. He seems to be very effective rushing from the inside. I feel like a lot of our quick pressures come from tackle/end stunts. Imagine running a T/E stunt with JP and JC...good luck to the opposing line.

5. If Nolan is back, then Smith/Hunt/Phillips/BG/Uche is a very strong and deep edge group. An area of weakness becomes a strength.

On the comp pick/rental question, we need to look more closely at our 2026 cap space. Spotrac has it at $19mm, but you need to make 2 adjustments: (i) they have JP on the books this year for $6.6mm, but the Dolphins ate most of that, so that creates ~$5.8mm more of rollover cap; and (ii) Michael Carter will be cut and we save ~$8.9mm. So our actual cap space is more like $33-$34mm. So here are the basic considerations from there:

1. DG is on the books for $20.5mm in dead money to be elsewhere. If we extend him before FA, we can kick that down the road and likely drop his cap number by 5-10mm. So it's cheaper short-term to bring him back. I'm not sure the long-term, big guarantee contract is out there for him.

2. If we don't bring DG back, we need to draft of sign a TE. Think 5-7mm if we go outside.

3. Assume Reed costs ~10mm per year, his 1st year cap hit would be 4-5mm.

4. So if we lose DG, and resign Reed, we could have ~21-24mm of cap space.

5. If we extend JD, it would lower his 2026 cap number.

Long way of saying, we could resign JP if we wanted to. The Carter extension likely won't bump his 2026 cap number that much. If he walks, a 2027 4th seems likely as a comp pick. So either he's here long term, or he cost moving back a round and a year. Works for me.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Generating pressures is on base percentage. Sacks are batting average. From a 30,000’ view, on base percentage is a huge help to the team.

But sometimes, you just need a base hit to drive in runs. Pressures end plays and sacks end drives. Yes, there is INT factor, but that’s not a multiple time per game occurrence.

I don't disagree. Just marinating in the trade a bit and the criticisms of Miami fans of his play. Even if he's not a big sack contributor but gets consistent pressure I think I'm still fun with the price given the build of our Defense. Not that that's a given but still.

12 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I can see how a player not "finishing" a sack would be frustrating to fans. But pressures are also super important. Especially when you have good DTs and LBs who can clean up a QB who gets flushed out.

Nobody likes not finishing

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Hah deal. I only drink water in the morning (I am weird), but if they get a 4 or 5 out of this I got you.

You don't think JP would generate a 5th round comp pick if he walks?

With the qualifier that he needs to walk and not be resigned, I'll bet that he meets the level to generate a 5th rounder. Now if it is cancelled out by someone we sign, but the pick would have been a 5th, I win.

If those terms work, I'm game for it. How much?

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nobody likes not finishing

Ugh you sound just like my wife

Roster tango will be interesting.

- When Nolan Smith is back they'll have 6 DEs. Usually they'd dress 4 or 5. Normally that would mean Patrick Johnson would likely get cut (along with AJ Dillon, who's a goner). But he's a core ST guy, so it likely he not only stays, but dresses. Also, many of those DEs have injury histories, and PJ has done a decent job as a pass rusher. I don't think they want to lose him to waivers like they did last year.

- When Bennett is back, they'll have 8 CBs. At most they'll dress 6. McWilliams sits, but they didn't trade for Alexander and Carter just to have them sit on game day. That leaves Adoree Jackson or Ringo as the odd man out. Ringo is a damn good (and core) STer, so that leaves Jackson. I really don't see another obvious cut on the roster so if they can't trade him he's the most likely cut/IR candidate.
- Besides Dillon and Jackson who are the other possible cuts?
Granson? Latu could fill in as the 3rd TE and if Granson clears waivers you've got 5 potential PS elevations remaining between Granson and EJ Jenkins if Goedert or Grant gets hurt.
Byron Young? Doubtful as I don't think they trust Robinson to be the 4th DT (and he won't be active on game day if someone gets hurt).
Gipson? Doubtful as that would leave them with only 4 WRs and he's done a good job as the KR/PR.
Patrick Johnson? Doubtful (see above)

- Assuming Dillon and Jackson get cut/IRd, who are the inactives? That's not as easy of a questions as it seems.
1. Howell
2. McWilliams
3. Robinson
4. Kendall
You need 2 more. Here's where it gets interesting.
Patrick Johnson- Again, he's a core STer. If you're not going to activate him, you might as well cut him, but as stated above,
Darius Cooper - That leaves you mighty thin at WR on game day, and with Gipson as your 3rd WR if there's an injury, which is far from ideal.
Cam Latu - Doubtful. He's important to the run game, especially on play action and used in a decent bit of sets.
Smael Mondon Jr. - This is most likely even though he's a core STer. Dean and Trot Jr. are better backup LBs.
Kylen Granson - Probably, even though he's a core STer, because Latu could fill in for him as TE2 if there's an in-game injury, thought it may leave them unable to run plays out of 12 personnel that also require a FB.

One aspect I like about all the moves since the season started (Bennett, Bigsby, Carter, Alexander, Phillips) is they are mostly low cost and do not need to be considered long-term. The way the roster and contracts are, letting guys go after last offseason we knew they were going to need to go cheaper and younger to make up for it.

Bigsby seems a lock to continue as RB2 next year. If Phillips healthy and decent, he can remain in the rotation next year but it's not a full-time starter expectation, and doesn't mean they don't draft another Edge. The corners besides Q and DeJean have all been bad, so any slight upgrade or depth is nice but they really need to draft a corner high next year to get a quality guy in there. We'll see who stays and goes after the season but the good news is, it's not like they traded too much assets or invested too much financially, they can easily move on from these guys.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nobody likes not finishing

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The window is now. Howie made all those moves last year in the draft to get this draft capital in order to do just this.

Hopefully Howie makes better moves in FA so he doesn’t have to leak draft assets for players like Johnson, Metchie, Alexander, Carter…

Reaction from fans of other teams on social media, they view Howie as the best GM and are mad that teams keep letting the rich get richer.

Except I keep seeing some Cowboys fans saying these players should go to Dallas to win a ring with Dak. Not sure if serious 😄