January 3Jan 3 38 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:They didn’t vote for that but when Daddy says jump they are happy to abide. The single principle is to obey.Yup. It’s sad.
January 3Jan 3 Somehow when Dems did it you loonies were silent. (See Obamas overthrow of Ukraine's democratically elected govt, see Biden bragging that he withheld $1 billion worth of aid if they investigated the board Hunter was on, see Obama using drones against Houthis, Biden airstrikes in Syria and Iraq, etc.) Now, not so much. Funny how that works.
January 3Jan 3 3 minutes ago, The_Omega said:I don’t think it leads to warfare, I think it stops it. More dominos are likely to fall soon, with little to no additional US military action. Less certain is how to achieve his objectives up north, but that could, potentially, have a peaceful solution as well.What do you mean "little to no additional US military action”? Who do you think is going to be in control of Venezuela until a new government is formed and is secure?The Venezuelan military and law enforcement are loyal to Maduro. If they weren’t, then they would have ousted him on their own after he refused to leave office after losing the election.
January 3Jan 3 Just now, The_Omega said:I don’t think it leads to warfare, I think it stops it. More dominos are likely to fall soon, with little to no additional US military action. Less certain is how to achieve his objectives up north, but that could, potentially, have a peaceful solution as well.No chance. Rubio just put Cuba on notice and for sure there will be more warfare accelerating in other regions of the world even if we focus on Venezuela only.
January 3Jan 3 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:No chance. Rubio just put Cuba on notice and for sure there will be more warfare accelerating in other regions of the world even if we focus on Venezuela only.Right, pressure. If you think what just happened in Venezuela was "war” then I don’t know what to tell you. Cuba will fall far faster, Columbia might be a tougher one but Trump seems to know how to turn the most painful screws. Lastly, China having more influence on who is leading countries in our hemisphere is obviously dangerous and unsustainable.
January 3Jan 3 2 hours ago, TEW said:Yes! Another cope and seethe thread!Give me your tears sh!t libs! Give me all of them!Looks more like a retarded person, ranting like a retarded person lmao.
January 3Jan 3 5 minutes ago, The_Omega said:Right, pressure. If you think what just happened in Venezuela was "war” then I don’t know what to tell you. Cuba will fall far faster, Columbia might be a tougher one but Trump seems to know how to turn the most painful screws. Lastly, China having more influence on who is leading countries in our hemisphere is obviously dangerous and unsustainable.I happen to agree with you on this God what just happened? A loser liberal agreed with a right wing maga guy. OH my God! Yuck
January 3Jan 3 1 minute ago, The_Omega said:Right, pressure. If you think what just happened in Venezuela was "war” then I don’t know what to tell you. Cuba will fall far faster, Columbia might be a tougher one but Trump seems to know how to turn the most painful screws. Lastly, China having more influence on who is leading countries in our hemisphere is obviously dangerous and unsustainable.You seem to think everything is over. The occupation is the hard part and it will require significant boots on the ground. We’ve also already had a small invasion force invade the country under significant fire. What would you like to call it? If there is no more fighting then maybe we can call it an invasion executed under a minor skirmish. That remains to be seen.
January 3Jan 3 2 hours ago, The_Omega said:We didn’t kidnap their President, we arrested the wanted fugitive illegally occupying the office. Maria Corina Machado is the President and she fully supports our actions. Now how long until Boasberg or another rogue activist judge tries to order he be released?LOLOL so much for that. Man you guys are so awesome….
January 3Jan 3 15 minutes ago, Walkingwindchime said:I happen to agree with you on this God what just happened? A loser liberal agreed with a right wing maga guy. OH my God! YuckI’ve intentionally refrained from liking and quoting your post because I didn’t want the other "liberals” around here using it against you. Maybe when two sides can agree we’re on the right path.
January 3Jan 3 People are criticizing these Venezuela strikes, but early January is traditionally the time of year that Trump sends people to a nation’s Capitol in order to kidnap their leaders. Respect other people’s cultures!
January 3Jan 3 1 hour ago, Gannan said:We invaded a foreign country and US serviceman were shot. Sure sounds like a war to me.You will call anything war at this point if it lets you queef about Trump…Abduction? Maybe. What do we call an "arrest” on foreign soil where we have no jurisiction?
January 3Jan 3 1 hour ago, The_Omega said:Not a big fan of some of what he said today but time will tell."I haven't figured out a way to justify this but with enough time, Fox News will let me know how."
January 3Jan 3 5 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:What do we call an "arrest” on foreign soil where we have no jurisiction?good question! It’s called Kidnapping, or formally Called Extraordinary rendition. Which is A Violation of the United Nations charter. If a government or its agents carried it out, its Punishable by10–30+ years imprisonmentLife imprisonmentLoss of rank, pensions, and international travelUniversal-jurisdiction arrest warrantsThe UN is meeting probably as we speak here, so we can hope they have some balls and do what needs to be done and they arrest Trump and all the people Involved with this. This can just be swept under a rug this is a MAJOR violation and sets a dangerous worldwide precedent.
January 3Jan 3 🚨LEGAL EXPERT: Trump’s Venezuela Bombing Is ILLEGAL - and It’s IMPEACHABLE.A legal expert is now explaining why Donald Trump’s military action against Venezuela is not just reckless, but illegal under U.S. law - and why one buried fact changes everything: the bombing did not start recently. It began months ago, in September.That single detail detonates the administration’s entire legal defense.Under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, the rules are explicit:When a president introduces U.S. armed forces into hostilities without a declaration of war or specific authorization from Congress, the law gives the president 60 days to obtain congressional approval. If Congress does not approve the action, the military operation must stop.There are no loopholes. There is no reset button.Public reporting shows that U.S. forces began bombing Venezuelan-linked boats in September, using American military force abroad. Under the War Powers Resolution, that use of force qualifies as hostilities. Congress did not declare war. Congress did not authorize the strikes. And Congress was never asked to approve them within the required 60-day window.That means the legal clock started in September.And it expired months ago."That’s the part people are missing,” said Joe Gallina, an attorney with training in international and cross-border criminal law. "Once U.S. bombs were used in September against those boats in the Caribbean, the War Powers Resolution was triggered. Everything that followed runs on that same clock. And that clock is long expired.”That is why this is not merely controversial policy. It is a clear violation of U.S. law.Legal scholars note that knowingly continuing military operations after the War Powers deadline, without congressional authorization, is not just unlawful - it is impeachable conduct. The statute was written after Vietnam to prevent presidents from doing exactly this."This is the kind of abuse of power the impeachment clause exists to address,” Gallina said. "Defying Congress and the law on matters of war is not something the Constitution allows.”Under normal circumstances, Congress would act. But with Republicans barely allowing the government to function - blocking oversight and shielding executive misconduct - accountability through impeachment has effectively been paralyzed.That leaves one remaining recourse.The midterms. And we’re ready.——Joe Gallina is the publisher of Call to Activism, which has been tracking executive overreach related to the Venezuela operation.LR.
January 3Jan 3 5 minutes ago, Procus said:If it’s about taking out murderous dictators, I have an idea…..take out Putin. Oh wait, you guys love him.
January 3Jan 3 24 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:You will call anything war at this point if it lets you queef about Trump…Abduction? Maybe. What do we call an "arrest” on foreign soil where we have no jurisiction?What do you call toppling a govt thru military force and then sending in people to occupy and run things (i.e. govern)?
January 3Jan 3 The real shame of this is how much Dick Cheney would have loved to see it. RIP Big Dog.
January 3Jan 3 1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:What do you mean "little to no additional US military action”? Who do you think is going to be in control of Venezuela until a new government is formed and is secure?The Venezuelan military and law enforcement are loyal to Maduro. If they weren’t, then they would have ousted him on their own after he refused to leave office after losing the election.Watch and see. We snatched Maduro with very little harm suffered by our military, while their military was backing him. How long do think their military leadership has left? Well, it seems hysterics like you give them far more credit then they reasonably deserve so probably for a while.
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