16 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Team will win 3 more minimum

May need to win 5 for number 1 seed

Very winnable games left but our Oline is injured and we like to shoot ourselves in the foot. Could win out or could lose out

15 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Big overreaction.

We will still win the division and the good thing is that Brown looked really sharp.

But even with my positive outlook, we have a beat up oline that needs some new young talent and an OC that plainly isn’t good enough. I just don’t see as a contender this year unless a lot breaks right.

We desperately need a Fangio style OC who hasn’t got HC aspirations and will stay here for 3 plus years.

I agree the sky is not falling. I was a very ugly game. We beat ourselves again. You take away a few penalties and the uncharacteristic turnovers we win. Still ugly but we win.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Very winnable games left but our Oline is injured and we like to shoot ourselves in the foot. Could win out or could lose out

A brain dead Patullo could look good against the raiders

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

A brain dead Patullo could look good against the raiders

You give the guy way too much credit, can't point to a single game this season where the offense has played complimentary football.

Each win has fallen squarely on the shoulders of the defense and special teams.

18 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I agree this is much closer to 2023 than it is 2024. I do think this season ends in a similar fashion but not quite as bad. We have what 6 games left? I’ll predict 3-3 from here. I think we split with Wash, beat Vegas and get a win somewhere else either against Chicago or LA.

Jalen hasn’t had a consistent OC but he shouldn’t again this year because KP has to go. This is the issue with a HC who isn’t a good offensive coach.

Isn't even the problem, and I'm really tired of this narrative. Let's take a quick look at one of the obvious and clear counterpoints, the Buffalo Bills.

The Bills have Sean McDermott as their head coach! We most certainly know personally he's not the best offensive coach. Defensive guy. Cool. So let's take a look at his offensive ranks since Josh Allen developed, shall we? We'll start in 2020.

2020: 2nd | Ken Dorsey

2021: 3rd | Ken Dorsey

2022: 2nd | Ken Dorsey

2023: 6th | Ken Dorsey (Fired) -> Joe Brady

2024: 2nd | Joe Brady

2025: 5th | Joe Brady (So far)

Wow, sure looks like their offensive coaching isn't exactly going so bad? And with even more clear control of the offense, people aren't getting poached as frequently there either. Weird isn't it?

Eagles fans cling to narratives and hate changing their opinions, but I've said it like 5 billion times. The problem isn't Nick or his offensive ability, it's Nick and Hurts together. Nick and co not named Frank Reich came through San Diego, and Phillip Rivers then went to the Colts the year before Sirianni got hired as the Head Coach. Phillip Rivers is his NFL prototype, and Jalen Hurts is basically the polar opposite of Phillip Rivers. Nick and Jalen Hurts are schematic opposites.

For someone who is an EXTREMELY bright offensive mind, this isn't necessarily an issue - someone like Shanahan or Reid. However those guys don't grow on trees and average offensive minds are in the NFL too. Average isn't bad, but those people will almost always struggle to invert their templates. This handcuffs Nick, and makes him let someone else handle that, which is why us being so successful and getting coordinators poached every year is so damaging. Sometimes you can have two people who are good, but just be TERRIBLE match-ups for each other. People seem to understand this in marriages, but not in football, and it really comes down to fans always trying to find someone to blame.

This is the exact opposite of the reason why people insisted Frank Reich was the architect behind 2018's Super Bowl win before he also nosedived into the ground, and people got confused - that situation was that Doug and Reich together created more than the sum of their parts - perfectly complementary. Where here, Jalen and Nick are the exact opposite of complementary.

I'm sure people will ignore this post, insightful observation gets no traction because it doesn't relieve stress, but hey, I tried.

3 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

A brain dead Patullo could look good against the raiders

I'd like to think the talent could win out over the bad coaching for that game

But honestly I'm not sure anymore

15 hours ago, b_west3 said:

Honestly I'd be OK with it just from the standpoint that the team needs to make serious changes offensively, up to and including turning over the OC, HC, RB1 and possibly QB.

the head coach does NOT need to go. This kid has gotten us to the playoffs every year since he's been here, and I've never heard even one player complain about him.

What we need is CONSISTENCY in an OC/play-caller. Our BEST offensive coordinators are now coaching the Colts and Saints respectively. The gaps in between (and current) have not been great. I do not think Sirianni is the problem though

honestly the most frustrating thing about this loss was that the Eagles were up 21-0. This is only the 4th time in Eagles history that they blew a lead of this large, and the last time it happened was AR's first game has head coach. We played the Cardinals, and jumped out to a 21-0 1st quarter lead, only to lose the game 25-24

13 minutes ago, JohnB said:

the head coach does NOT need to go. This kid has gotten us to the playoffs every year since he's been here, and I've never heard even one player complain about him.

What we need is CONSISTENCY in an OC/play-caller. Our BEST offensive coordinators are now coaching the Colts and Saints respectively. The gaps in between (and current) have not been great. I do not think Sirianni is the problem though

It's kinda crazy to me how we're on this endless treadmill of OC replacing and rather than someone considering having to replace them every single year as part of the problem, they just point the finger at not hiring perfect candidates. You can tell there's a lot of Eagles fans who have never even ran a basic business in their life, of studied business at all.

2 hours ago, JohnB said:

the head coach does NOT need to go. This kid has gotten us to the playoffs every year since he's been here, and I've never heard even one player complain about him.

What we need is CONSISTENCY in an OC/play-caller. Our BEST offensive coordinators are now coaching the Colts and Saints respectively. The gaps in between (and current) have not been great. I do not think Sirianni is the problem though

No way you've been watching this team this season and think they're a well-coached unit outside of the defense. It's scary to think of where this team would be without Fangio.

8 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

It's kinda crazy to me how we're on this endless treadmill of OC replacing and rather than someone considering having to replace them every single year as part of the problem, they just point the finger at not hiring perfect candidates. You can tell there's a lot of Eagles fans who have never even ran a basic business in their life, of studied business at all.

hold the phone... I don't think Sirianni ever said, "we need to replace Shane Steichen, and we need to replace Kellen Moore." We lost those guys because they were sought after for HC positions. I'm just surprised we didn't go after Frank Reich this past off season once Kellen Moore took the Saints job. If I had to guess, it came down to money.

Season was over when Eagles allowed Patullo to be the OC...

🙄

10 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

The problem isn't Nick or his offensive ability, it's Nick and Hurts together. Nick and co not named Frank Reich came through San Diego, and Phillip Rivers then went to the Colts the year before Sirianni got hired as the Head Coach. Phillip Rivers is his NFL prototype, and Jalen Hurts is basically the polar opposite of Phillip Rivers. Nick and Jalen Hurts are schematic opposites.

Okay so look you’ve made some great points. You are absolutely right other teams get better results on offense with defensive HCs. Another example I guess would be Baltimore who have had very good offenses but Harbaugh isn’t exactly an offensive HC. So there are examples out there but there aren’t a lot. And that’s not to disagree with your point just to say it isn’t necessarily the blueprint that all teams follow.

But here’s my thing… If Hurts isn’t the kind of QB that Sirianni wants then why has he gone with him essentially from the off? He could have changed QB? He could have kept the scheme he wants and shown that Hurts couldn’t run it? Perhaps that’s a risky strategy and perhaps poor results would have led to his firing etc?

15 hours ago, b_west3 said:

No way you've been watching this team this season and think they're a well-coached unit outside of the defense. It's scary to think of where this team would be without Fangio.

I think 2 things are holdings us back right now, despite our talent. The offense has been figured out. "dumbed down" could be a good phrase, similar to how it was with Brian Johnson a few years back. #2, and should not be discounted, is the injuries. We're beat up along the offensive line, and that's led to inconsistent play, and penalties. We're not out there getting the best out of our O-Line

Siri & Patullo in meetings this week.

Can’t wait for this thread to be shut down after the birds go on another winning streak the next few months

3 hours ago, Eriv20 said:

Can’t wait for this thread to be shut down after the birds go on another winning streak the next few months

Tagging to revisit this comment

I'm taking a different view on this team than many others. I think overall, they're doing great. The negativity is justifiably coming out because of that horrible loss in Dallas and the possible reverse of momentum that could result. But we were really spoiled with the SB team from last year, and we took hits on both sides of the ball in free agency and otherwise. The OL is a downgrade from last year with the change at RG, and 3/5 of the line is injured. Barkley is not the same RB he was last year. The playcalling is poor. On defense, we lost a starting DT, DE, SS, CB. There are rumblings of discord in the locker room. And still, the team is 8-3, and three games up in the win column in the NFCE. We're number two seed (like we were last year), and if we have to play the current number 1 seed in an away game, it's in a venue where we play well.

For all the troubles the Eagles have faced this year, they're doing very well all things considered.

11 hours ago, Procus said:

I'm taking a different view on this team than many others. I think overall, they're doing great. The negativity is justifiably coming out because of that horrible loss in Dallas and the possible reverse of momentum that could result. But we were really spoiled with the SB team from last year, and we took hits on both sides of the ball in free agency and otherwise. The OL is a downgrade from last year with the change at RG, and 3/5 of the line is injured. Barkley is not the same RB he was last year. The playcalling is poor. On defense, we lost a starting DT, DE, SS, CB. There are rumblings of discord in the locker room. And still, the team is 8-3, and three games up in the win column in the NFCE. We're number two seed (like we were last year), and if we have to play the current number 1 seed in an away game, it's in a venue where we play well.

For all the troubles the Eagles have faced this year, they're doing very well all things considered.

I definitely do not disagree with any of that ... to be 8-3 considering all of the issues we've faced this season (mentioned in your post) and add to that the fact that we have THE toughest schedule in the NFL this year (with a bullseye planted squarely on our backs because we are the reigning champs) is rather impressive. BUT ... just have to hope we are able to continue to find ways to win despite those issues and not have the wheels fall off like they did in 2023. Hopefully the experience of having gone through that 2 years ago gives them some insight on how to avoid that kind of collapse repeating.

On 11/24/2025 at 4:19 PM, JohnB said:

the head coach does NOT need to go. This kid has gotten us to the playoffs every year since he's been here, and I've never heard even one player complain about him.

What we need is CONSISTENCY in an OC/play-caller. Our BEST offensive coordinators are now coaching the Colts and Saints respectively. The gaps in between (and current) have not been great. I do not think Sirianni is the problem though

I have news for you. You can switch the OC all you want its the same offense. Kellen Moore ran the same offense we have now last year. The offense is predicated on what Hurts can run.

Think critically. Do you think Patullo wants to sabotage his career running simple elementary schemes just for the laughs?

On 11/24/2025 at 6:53 PM, b_west3 said:

No way you've been watching this team this season and think they're a well-coached unit outside of the defense. It's scary to think of where this team would be without Fangio.

They would be one of the worst teams in the NFL.  They were the worst team in the NFL by the end of 2023. 

On 11/24/2025 at 7:56 AM, RainWave23 said:

They can’t score. Lead the league in three and outs. They aren’t beating anyone who plays well.

They're 8-3. They can't beat anyone? Be truthful, who's your team, cause it's not the Eagles. Your posts allude to that fact.

4 hours ago, Swimm said:

They would be one of the worst teams in the NFL.  They were the worst team in the NFL by the end of 2023. 

So the talent of the team can't carry poor coaching to a somewhat respectable level? Let's me forget all of the games we could have easily lost (DAL, KC, TB, LAR, MIN, etc). 8-3 could just add easily be 3-8.