12 hours ago, Swimm said:

I have news for you. You can switch the OC all you want its the same offense. Kellen Moore ran the same offense we have now last year. The offense is predicated on what Hurts can run.

Think critically. Do you think Patullo wants to sabotage his career running simple elementary schemes just for the laughs?

I definitely don't think Patullo wants to sabotage his career, however how can you say Kellen Moore and Shane Steichen ran the same offense as Patullo and Johnson, yet the results were dramatically different? Most of the players are the same. Same O-Line coach, same Head Coach, etc. What did Moore and Steichen get out of this offense that Patullo can't and Johnson couldn't?

1 hour ago, JohnB said:

I definitely don't think Patullo wants to sabotage his career, however how can you say Kellen Moore and Shane Steichen ran the same offense as Patullo and Johnson, yet the results were dramatically different? Most of the players are the same. Same O-Line coach, same Head Coach, etc. What did Moore and Steichen get out of this offense that Patullo can't and Johnson couldn't?

Shane ran a different offense. But even under him the offense had some of the same weird lapses. Shane also had the luxury of a offense and a QB that was not fully scouted yet. Johnson tried to run Shane Steichen's offense. But at that point the offense and hurts were figured out and it became a dysfunctional mess by the end of the 2023 season.

Kellen Moore had to abandon his complex offensive schemes cause Hurts couldn't run them. By the bye they turned into a simple run heavy offense to limit Hurts throwing the ball. But the same issue we have now in the passing game were there last year. The difference is the Eagles had a run game and a Elite defense to lean on. You take the Eagles run game from last year the passing game would be in a similar position it is now.

Getting a new OC probably won't change much by itself. He will see Hurts limitations or what only Hurts wants to do and abandon the complexity for a simplified predictable offense like Patullo is being forced to do.

16 hours ago, Swimm said:

Shane ran a different offense. But even under him the offense had some of the same weird lapses. Shane also had the luxury of a offense and a QB that was not fully scouted yet. Johnson tried to run Shane Steichen's offense. But at that point the offense and hurts were figured out and it became a dysfunctional mess by the end of the 2023 season.

Kellen Moore had to abandon his complex offensive schemes cause Hurts couldn't run them. By the bye they turned into a simple run heavy offense to limit Hurts throwing the ball. But the same issue we have now in the passing game were there last year. The difference is the Eagles had a run game and a Elite defense to lean on. You take the Eagles run game from last year the passing game would be in a similar position it is now.

Getting a new OC probably won't change much by itself. He will see Hurts limitations or what only Hurts wants to do and abandon the complexity for a simplified predictable offense like Patullo is being forced to do.

So what you're saying is Hurts is the problem.

Yeah seasons over, put a fork in Siranni's and Patullo's coaching career and call it a day...

The Eagles will not win again. The offense can’t score. Dallas will win the division. The Eagles will miss the playoffs.

Incompetence at its purest form. This might be the worst coaching staff in the NFL. Time for everyone to go

You already have a season over thread greedy **** 🤣

This was really bad and you can’t really put this on KP. Bad execution again.

Defense defenitely doesn’t get a pass though. Not sure what our two first round DTs and stud linebackers were doing.

Brutal game, offense and defense.

For some games that the play, it looks like they don't even practice during the week. SMFH.

The HC, if they collapse AGAIN, he better be fired.

Season is over. Kevin Patullo is a joke. A repeat of 2023.

They just look so unprepared. That's Coaching, right?

So strange.

I'm going to hide in my bed now. And watch the SB highlights from the win over the Chiefs.

Save the season with Tanner and Tank!!!

why is Patullo still here. Someone please pack his bags. Why did Sirianni go for 2 when they had 3 mins left. Kick it use timeouts and get it back and try and tie after 2nd score. Some head scratching game management yet again

Season is over as of Friday November 28, 2025. Signed and dated.

On 11/23/2025 at 8:12 PM, ManchesterEagle said:

Big overreaction.

We will still win the division and the good thing is that Brown looked really sharp.

But even with my positive outlook, we have a beat up oline that needs some new young talent and an OC that plainly isn’t good enough. I just don’t see as a contender this year unless a lot breaks right.

We desperately need a Fangio style OC who hasn’t got HC aspirations and will stay here for 3 plus years.

Not an overreaction.

On 11/27/2025 at 1:13 AM, Swimm said:

Shane ran a different offense. But even under him the offense had some of the same weird lapses. Shane also had the luxury of a offense and a QB that was not fully scouted yet. Johnson tried to run Shane Steichen's offense. But at that point the offense and hurts were figured out and it became a dysfunctional mess by the end of the 2023 season.

Kellen Moore had to abandon his complex offensive schemes cause Hurts couldn't run them. By the bye they turned into a simple run heavy offense to limit Hurts throwing the ball. But the same issue we have now in the passing game were there last year. The difference is the Eagles had a run game and a Elite defense to lean on. You take the Eagles run game from last year the passing game would be in a similar position it is now.

Getting a new OC probably won't change much by itself. He will see Hurts limitations or what only Hurts wants to do and abandon the complexity for a simplified predictable offense like Patullo is being forced to do.

Ah yes the "Patullo is actually an offensive genius” argument. Didn’t know he had a burner on this message board.

1 hour ago, RainWave23 said:

Ah yes the "Patullo is actually an offensive genius” argument. Didn’t know he had a burner on this message board.

Yea. No where in my post did I say that. Stay off drugs and learn to read.

On 11/23/2025 at 7:54 PM, xxeaglesfanxx said:

Honestly wouldn’t surprise me at this point. But are the Raiders even a guarantee? Nothing is when it’s Philadelphia football.

I think we may squeak out two wins. Vegas and a split with the Commanders. So 9-8 at worst 10-7 at best.

On 11/23/2025 at 8:00 PM, Utebird said:

Im not blaming players lack of effort on this, they just made a ton of mistakes and the O choked the game away

Both AJ and Smitty made plays but eagles inability to run block is killing them, barkley gets hit in the backfield every touch and when he has a hole he doesnt see it, his vision this year has been bad almost as bad as the run blocking

Tank enters the chat.... sike just a decoy on a jacked up pass play.

1 hour ago, Southparkeagles said:

I think we may squeak out two wins. Vegas and a split with the Commanders. So 9-8 at worst 10-7 at best.

Nah they win the rest except the Bills .. they'll sit some guys for that one

1 hour ago, judunno said:

Nah they win the rest except the Bills .. they'll sit some guys for that one

Smoke em if you got em.

18 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Smoke em if you got em.

I still beweeeve

Honestly on the paper the Raiders and the two games against Commanders look as a potential win. I do not believe it in fact. On the last 8 games Eagles are 4-4 with an offense which can hardly score 21 points (and that with some help from the defense). What's more seeing how the NFC east games turned out. Eagles are 2-2 with a very bad loss against the Giants. Eagles were dominated by a poor Giants team.

So no i do not see at all Eagles to win those games.

This team has the feeling of 2023, and considering how they were acting at the beginning of the year (freaking out anytime someone mentioned the Super Bowl, and not being put on the field when the banner dropped) they knew they would struggle all season.

10 hours ago, XdbtX said:

why is Patullo still here. Someone please pack his bags. Why did Sirianni go for 2 when they had 3 mins left. Kick it use timeouts and get it back and try and tie after 2nd score. Some head scratching game management yet again

Been asking a lot of questions about the HC and his decision making lately. Some food for thought though. If KP isn’t calling the plays then it will be Sirianni. I do think there should be a change, but I don’t think Sirianni taking play calling on right now while he’s struggling to manage the game is a good idea either.

10 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

This was really bad and you can’t really put this on KP. Bad execution again.

Defense defenitely doesn’t get a pass though. Not sure what our two first round DTs and stud linebackers were doing.

They were getting run over. The Eagles offensive and defensive lines were both dominated in this game.