Yup sounds about right. This team is garbage. How it is that you can be a head coach for years and still be this stupid? Going for 2 when you need 15? Take the PAT and hope your d makes a stop. Fourth week in a row with a awful decision.

I was getting "we are going to lose out” vibes yesterday. No way we beat the chargers or Bills. This team is going to have to try really hard to lose to the commies and Raiders though. They will probably find a way to do it though.

Our OLine stinks I know they are injured, but the way they get manhandled is crazy.

It was a very short week after a brutal loss. The mental part has probably a lot to do with what happened friday for a big part. This is still a young team. The inefficiency in offense is a big problem and it is doubtfoul it will be solve this year. That said the season is not over yet. Yeah i think a collapse can happen. Finishing the season 0-7 would tie the collapse which happened with Kotite in 1994. That said it cannot happen too. Eagles still play the Raiders who are a brutal mess and Commanders twice. 2 or 3 wins in the last five games are possible. For the NFC east i do not know. I can be wrong but i do not see the Cowboys to win all their 5 games left. I still think their trouble for half of the season are not suddendly completely resolve.

Rams lose. We’re still in it. There’s no unbeatable teams

16 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Rams lose. We’re still in it. There’s no unbeatable teams

This is what overreacting fans never grasp. It sucks to lose. It sucks to lose 2 in a row. But no team is unbeatable. We squeaked out an uncomfortable win vs the rams in the divisional playoff last year and then we destroyed our next two opponents. You can survive some losses in the regular season, but you had better get everything together for the playoffs. I'm not happy with the recent performances of this team, but this team is capable of playing better and I'm going to continue to hold out hope that they do to close the season. Everybody that is convinced this is 2023, needs to look at a calendar. A portion of the fan base gives up every season. The ones that were "right" in 2023 were wrong in 2017 and 2024.

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

This is what overreacting fans never grasp. It sucks to lose. It sucks to lose 2 in a row. But no team is unbeatable. We squeaked out an uncomfortable win vs the rams in the divisional playoff last year and then we destroyed our next two opponents. You can survive some losses in the regular season, but you had better get everything together for the playoffs. I'm not happy with the recent performances of this team, but this team is capable of playing better and I'm going to continue to hold out hope that they do to close the season. Everybody that is convinced this is 2023, needs to look at a calendar. A portion of the fan base gives up every season. The ones that were "right" in 2023 were wrong in 2017 and 2024.

I’m not saying you are wrong but I am going to disagree. Yes fans felt that way in 2017 and in 2024 (though very different) but this has the feel of 2023 we can’t ignore that. In 2017 we panicked because we lost our starting QB. In 2024 we were furious at like week 5. This year (like 2023) we got off to a very good start in terms of the results but the performances were poor. And right now this team looks defeated and broken. And yeah that could change and they could get it together but we have 2023 as a recent example of how this team can fall apart.

Even with our record being 8-4 and in first place it is somewhat deceptive. We blocked a FG to win a game, and I think we are few dropped balls from being 6-6. I do suppose you can say that about most teams however. Everyone is a few plays form a very different record. But I have always thought this year our record did not truly represent our team.

7 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I’m not saying you are wrong but I am going to disagree. Yes fans felt that way in 2017 and in 2024 (though very different) but this has the feel of 2023 we can’t ignore that. In 2017 we panicked because we lost our starting QB. In 2024 we were furious at like week 5. This year (like 2023) we got off to a very good start in terms of the results but the performances were poor. And right now this team looks defeated and broken. And yeah that could change and they could get it together but we have 2023 as a recent example of how this team can fall apart.

I think people are obsessed with 2023. That season ended. This one has not ended yet. It's super easy to predict doom and gloom. Only 1 team each year wins the Championship and everybody else falls short. So predicting failure is the safe bet by far. So you have these perennial pessimists that repeatedly spam the forum with "the season is over" while it is clearly not over. They know that as long as we are one of the 31 teams that don't win the Super Bowl, they can say, "I told you so." Big freakin' deal. Crying about things that haven't happened yet just reaffirms who the bedwetters are. I totally understand why fans would have less confidence in the Eagles because of how they have won games and lost games this season. But if "the season is over" to them, they are literally being drama queens and should only post in Rant N Rave. We are currently 8-4 with 5 games remaining in the regular season. This team can end the regular season anywhere from 8-9 to 13-4. They are still in contention for the #1 seed in the NFC and still can miss the playoffs entirely. The season literally is not over. This team is 8-4 through a tough schedule despite never really playing any great games as a team. They are coming off a very embarrassing home loss. If players take this to heart, and some real leaders step up, we all know this team has the potential to perform at an elite level if everyone just executes.

That doesn't mean they can be unbeatable. There are other teams that are also capable of playing at an elite level. So each week, they have to forget about the previous week and go out there and do their job. Last week, I didn't see a team that quit. I just saw a team that got stomped. They'll have to prevent that from happening again. My confidence in the team isn't as high as it was a couple months ago or this time last year, but my hopes are just as high as ever. I don't have to draw attention to myself by throwing a cyber hissy fit and spouting stupid nonsense just because they underperformed in my opinion. Some people need to get a grip. Some need to air out their mattresses.

I like the other "Season is Over” thread better!

9 hours ago, brkmsn said:

The season literally is not over.

No it isn’t over. As you say there are 5 more games and all of them are winnable. We’ve seen this team win big big games last year. We’ve seen them win big games this year too. So there is still a lot to play for.

I just don’t see it. This team won big games in 2023 and still collapsed the way it did. There are a lot of similarities with the way this looks. Yes that was a different season but there are a lot of players still here who suffered that collapse.

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I just don’t see it. This team won big games in 2023 and still collapsed the way it did. There are a lot of similarities with the way this looks. Yes that was a different season but there are a lot of players still here who suffered that collapse.

Never lose perspective that all the other teams are playing to win as well. Back in the 1970s and 1980s there was a wide gap between championship teams and bad teams. But these days we have a salary cap and free agency and the gap between the best teams and the worst is much smaller --- especially when you consider how fast teams can turn things around now. So we sometimes fall into the trap of thinking a team that has had a losing record in recent years is not capable of beating a team that has been winning during that stretch. We sort of expect a blowout when they meet. When that doesn't happen we automatically assume the so-called "better team" underperformed (here you are using the term, "collapsed" ). But in reality they may have just faced a team that played a very good game that day.

Obviously, not every negative is a direct result of the opponent's play. There are mistakes players and coaches make that contribute to negative outcomes. But these are universal and happen to every team in the league every year. We watch our team with a hyper-critical eye, but then watch other "good" teams play and make mistakes and just shrug it off like they are perfect. When you play an opponent tough, you can actually increase the likelihood they will make mistakes. Teams have been playing tough against the Eagles ... and why shouldn't they?

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Never lose perspective that all the other teams are playing to win as well. Back in the 1970s and 1980s there was a wide gap between championship teams and bad teams. But these days we have a salary cap and free agency and the gap between the best teams and the worst is much smaller --- especially when you consider how fast teams can turn things around now. So we sometimes fall into the trap of thinking a team that has had a losing record in recent years is not capable of beating a team that has been winning during that stretch. We sort of expect a blowout when they meet. When that doesn't happen we automatically assume the so-called "better team" underperformed (here you are using the term, "collapsed" ). But in reality they may have just faced a team that played a very good game that day.

Obviously, not every negative is a direct result of the opponent's play. There are mistakes players and coaches make that contribute to negative outcomes. But these are universal and happen to every team in the league every year. We watch our team with a hyper-critical eye, but then watch other "good" teams play and make mistakes and just shrug it off like they are perfect. When you play an opponent tough, you can actually increase the likelihood they will make mistakes. Teams have been playing tough against the Eagles ... and why shouldn't they?

I respect you and your opinion but we are on different sides of this. Yes I agree we have played good teams and it is hard to win in the NFL. But it’s the way this team is playing and the way this team has lost games. And in fact even the way we have won games too. I get you want to see the positives here and I get you want to see how this can turn around. I’m just saying this doesn’t look like it’s going to turn around and I’m just being (in my opinion) realistic and honest.

On 11/28/2025 at 4:37 PM, RainWave23 said:

The Eagles will not win again. The offense can’t score. Dallas will win the division. The Eagles will miss the playoffs.

Incompetence at its purest form. This might be the worst coaching staff in the NFL. Time for everyone to go

You don't need a new "season is over" topic every week. Just use this one.

On 11/24/2025 at 2:15 PM, Birdman said:

You give the guy way too much credit, can't point to a single game this season where the offense has played complimentary football.

Each win has fallen squarely on the shoulders of the defense and special teams.

2nd Giants game they did well, but aside from that one, your point stands.

On 11/23/2025 at 8:52 PM, GeorgeM37 said:

I think this is an overreaction. Please remember that it is tough for ANY team to go back to the superbowl once they have won it....

This is 2023 all over again...

Jalen has not had a consistent OC pretty much since he has been in the league...

The Oline is WAY off from what it was last year. As soon as Barkley gets the ball there is a player right in his face....just about every single time...

The defense is way different from last year and injuries are starting to pile up....

KP is AWFUL and continues doing the simplest yet dumbest plays that DO NOT WORK every single game....he has not tried to switch it up once....

Every single time Jalen lines up under center bad things happen....every time...

Jalen has so many weapons it's ridiculous....Smitty....AJ....Dotson, all first round picks....Goedert....but it seems he is only focusing on making AJ happy....I really think he was told to do this....He also seems scared to take off again ala 2023....

There are many factors that are going into this.....and if you think the league was going to let the Eagles sweep the cowgirls in dallas there is a bridge in Bahrain I would love to sell you....the blatant bs flags were obvious to those who had eyes to see.....whether you like it or not.....

Do you remember when Joe Santoliquito wrote that article on Wentz back in the day and everyone pretty much said it was garbage? Not long after that Jalen Hurts was drafted. Now we have that story coming out this year by D. Gunn and again people are minimizing the story. He even claimed it’s a Wentz-like situation. I feel like we will learn about how the Eagles truly feel if we get another high quarterback draft selection in a year or two. Ultimately the passing offense hasn’t suddenly started to struggle. It’s been that way a few seasons now. For the talent they have it shouldn’t be this difficult. Why every season the Eagles have to have a new OC, I don’t get, but this is the issue you have when the HC doesn’t call the plays. You know I wonder how committed the Owner and the GM are to the coach or the quarterback. Those two have had a lot of success with many different people manning both of those seats. At this point they may think they can almost put anyone out there of their choosing and still be successful.

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Do you remember when Joe Santoliquito wrote that article on Wentz back in the day and everyone pretty much said it was garbage?

I think people want to believe what they want and dismiss anything they don’t like. That’s not to say the Jalen stuff is definitely true but it is to say we pick and choose what we believe. We may come to learn that the issues do lie with Hurts. We may learn that a few have issues with him and they are moved on and everything works out. But I don’t think these reports are total BS.

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think people want to believe what they want and dismiss anything they don’t like. That’s not to say the Jalen stuff is definitely true but it is to say we pick and choose what we believe. We may come to learn that the issues do lie with Hurts. We may learn that a few have issues with him and they are moved on and everything works out. But I don’t think these reports are total BS.

I’m trying to be realistic here. That situation looked like we had a coach/qb combo for the next decade, and a few years later both were gone. For as much success as Sirianni and Hurts have had together you would think this could be how things go for years to come, but this team has let people go in the past. They let Andy Reid go. They moved on from McNabb after arguably one of his best statistical seasons. They moved on from Foles, and Wentz. They moved on from Doug after winning the SB. Just seems like if this team didn’t want this info leaked it wouldn’t have been. Maybe they’re trying to light a fire under their quarterback?

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

I’m trying to be realistic here. That situation looked like we had a coach/qb combo for the next decade, and a few years later both were gone. For as much success as Sirianni and Hurts have had together you would think this could be how things go for years to come, but this team has let people go in the past. They let Andy Reid go. They moved on from McNabb after arguably one of his best statistical seasons. They moved on from Foles, and Wentz. They moved on from Doug after winning the SB. Just seems like if this team didn’t want this info leaked it wouldn’t have been. Maybe they’re trying to light a fire under their quarterback?

They are trying to do something. Either light a fire under the QB or start a process of moving on from him. Either way like you say if they didn’t want so much leaking out it feels like they’d be able to do more to quieten the noise.

3 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

They are trying to do something. Either light a fire under the QB or start a process of moving on from him. Either way like you say if they didn’t want so much leaking out it feels like they’d be able to do more to quieten the noise.

Well I don’t think Tanner McKee is the answer so if they are planning to move on from the quarterback, we will find out if they draft another quarterback high.

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Well I don’t think Tanner McKee is the answer so if they are planning to move on from the quarterback, we will find out if they draft another quarterback high.

And I don’t think he is either… But with the way this is looking right now? And the way it looks so similar to 2023? I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a bit curious to see what would happen with Tanner at QB. And I’m not saying it’ll get better but I am now curious.

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And I don’t think he is either… But with the way this is looking right now? And the way it looks so similar to 2023? I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a bit curious to see what would happen with Tanner at QB. And I’m not saying it’ll get better but I am now curious.

Well I don’t know if we would see any real answers until teams started scheming for him.

9 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I’m trying to be realistic here. That situation looked like we had a coach/qb combo for the next decade, and a few years later both were gone. For as much success as Sirianni and Hurts have had together you would think this could be how things go for years to come, but this team has let people go in the past. They let Andy Reid go. They moved on from McNabb after arguably one of his best statistical seasons. They moved on from Foles, and Wentz. They moved on from Doug after winning the SB. Just seems like if this team didn’t want this info leaked it wouldn’t have been. Maybe they’re trying to light a fire under their quarterback?

The QB is tied much more so to the OC (and QB coach) when the HC really offers nothing on offense. Hurts needs someone running the offense that knows how to tailer the scheme around his strengths (and to minimize the chances of his weaknesses being exposed). Patullo is NOT that guy.

I have always liked Hurts for what he brings to the table ... I think they far outweigh the negatives. If the plan is to move forward with him as our QB they absolutely need to find the right guy to work with him. If Sirianni is going to be stubborn and stick to his guns with Patullo (and there is no push from above to fire him) then I'm afraid it would probably be best to find a QB that better fits to what they are trying to do. It really would be interesting to see what the offense would look like with McKee leading it for a few games. With more of a traditional drop back pocket passer with traits that would seem to be a better fit for the scheme (he may not be "the answer" but he at least fits the description), if the offense continued to sputter then it would quiet the Hurts detractors a bit and add more clarity as to who is really to blame ... Patullo. On the flip side, if the offense really took off, then it adds more proof that the Hurts-Patullo match is far from ideal and going to continue to be an issue here.

I don’t think KP is nearly good enough at OC and expect him to be replaced soon.

But egging his home and involving his family is absolutely classless. He got promoted out of his depth but that’s not his fault.

On 12/3/2025 at 5:34 AM, EazyEaglez said:

Do you remember when Joe Santoliquito wrote that article on Wentz back in the day and everyone pretty much said it was garbage? Not long after that Jalen Hurts was drafted. Now we have that story coming out this year by D. Gunn and again people are minimizing the story. He even claimed it’s a Wentz-like situation. I feel like we will learn about how the Eagles truly feel if we get another high quarterback draft selection in a year or two. Ultimately the passing offense hasn’t suddenly started to struggle. It’s been that way a few seasons now. For the talent they have it shouldn’t be this difficult. Why every season the Eagles have to have a new OC, I don’t get, but this is the issue you have when the HC doesn’t call the plays. You know I wonder how committed the Owner and the GM are to the coach or the quarterback. Those two have had a lot of success with many different people manning both of those seats. At this point they may think they can almost put anyone out there of their choosing and still be successful.

So you are saying its a plug and play system.....