3 hours ago, Road to Victory said:

Noooo… this guy is hated wherever he’s been.

I will say one nice thing about Matt Nagy (kind of). His wife is one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life, so he can't be all bad. Seems to suck as a coach, but I'm trying to be at least a little positive here.

Who gets the feeling we are more and more doomed at this point.

45 minutes ago, wrestlevessel said:

Who gets the feeling we are more and more doomed at this point.

Fans are finally getting a dose of reality that a lot of people aren't interested in coaching there, there's just too much to deal with. The writing has been on the wall forever though, we haven't been able to get the candidates we truly wanted for at least two hires. They worked out, but this has been a thing for a while now.

Bottom line- nobody wants to work with a marionette puppet coach who feels threatened by OC's- that they might take his job. So they refuse to even bother with Philly.

6 hours ago, Talonblood said:

Botom line- nobody wants to work with a marionette puppet coach who feels threatened by OC's- that they might take his job. So they refuse to even bother with Philly.

But several people passed on the head coaching job when Nick was hired, and when Doug was hired, so doesn't that imply that it has to do with a lot more than just Sirianni?

1 hour ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

But several people passed on the head coaching job when Nick was hired, and when Doug was hired, so doesn't that imply that it has to do with a lot more than just Sirianni?

Could be- I just hate Siri. 🤣

1 hour ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

But several people passed on the head coaching job when Nick was hired, and when Doug was hired, so doesn't that imply that it has to do with a lot more than just Sirianni?

Definitely has more to do with than just Sirianni.

For one thing, the Eagles always do their due diligence when hiring. These things take some time. There's also a crap ton of flux going on right now...10 HC openings, 6 of which are still open...lots of coaching staff shakeups and fallout when all is said in done.

For the Eagles' situation in particular, there are many things for OC candidates to consider...

1. Sirianni - will the new OC be guaranteed autonomy for the entire season or at the first sign of struggles will he have to worry about Sirianni interjecting himself and taking over?

2. Pressurized situation with team expected to win now.

3. Jalen Hurts is a limited QB.

4. AJ Brown - traded or will he be back and discontent again?

5. OL health - the play of the OL can make or break any offensive scheme. What's the inside scoop on LJ, Dickerson and Jurgens and their futures?

6. Overall structure of the organization...Howie/Lurie don't want coaches who want any say on things outside of coaching matters. Is this a turn-off? For HC candidates it has to be. For OC? Maybe.

7. On the plus side - they'd have a GM who will do his best to supply coaches with talent that fits their vision and an owner who is willing to pay.

8. On the plus side - they have a championship ready defense and a QB who has been to 2 SBs and the MVP of one. They could just be the right OC away from getting there again thus setting himself up as a future HC.

Another candidate we interviewed taking a job elsewhere. Just posting the info … don’t have any interest.

32 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Another candidate we interviewed taking a job elsewhere. Just posting the info … don’t have any interest.

crap !!! I prefer Brady but I think someone will offer him a HC position...wanted him if can't get Brady.

2 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Definitely has more to do with than just Sirianni.

For one thing, the Eagles always do their due diligence when hiring. These things take some time. There's also a crap ton of flux going on right now...10 HC openings, 6 of which are still open...lots of coaching staff shakeups and fallout when all is said in done.

For the Eagles' situation in particular, there are many things for OC candidates to consider...

1. Sirianni - will the new OC be guaranteed autonomy for the entire season or at the first sign of struggles will he have to worry about Sirianni interjecting himself and taking over?

2. Pressurized situation with team expected to win now.

3. Jalen Hurts is a limited QB.

4. AJ Brown - traded or will he be back and discontent again?

5. OL health - the play of the OL can make or break any offensive scheme. What's the inside scoop on LJ, Dickerson and Jurgens and their futures?

6. Overall structure of the organization...Howie/Lurie don't want coaches who want any say on things outside of coaching matters. Is this a turn-off? For HC candidates it has to be. For OC? Maybe.

7. On the plus side - they'd have a GM who will do his best to supply coaches with talent that fits their vision and an owner who is willing to pay.

8. On the plus side - they have a championship ready defense and a QB who has been to 2 SBs and the MVP of one. They could just be the right OC away from getting there again thus setting himself up as a future HC.

There was a report that they were giving full autonomy over the offense to select coaches

I could see the win now being a problem. We did just fire a coach after a winning season. Though he deserved it because the offense was a problem all season

AJ probably is likely happier in a different offense. People seriously need to let go this idea that he's going anywhere

Oline health is definitely an issue. Cam and Landon already have a bad injury history. Plus losing Lane to either retirement. And if Lane does stay then we're most likely going to lose him to an injury for a few weeks

Defense should be a selling point. Get a competent offense going and we're winning a lot of games

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

I find this one interesting. No play calling experience, but he has a good rep as a fast rising offensive mind. If we don't go the established play caller route, I think I'd find this guy the most interesting thus far.

3 hours ago, Talonblood said:

Could be- I just hate Siri. 🤣

I respect the being honest about it if I'm real. Lol.

3 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Definitely has more to do with than just Sirianni.

For one thing, the Eagles always do their due diligence when hiring. These things take some time. There's also a crap ton of flux going on right now...10 HC openings, 6 of which are still open...lots of coaching staff shakeups and fallout when all is said in done.

For the Eagles' situation in particular, there are many things for OC candidates to consider...

1. Sirianni - will the new OC be guaranteed autonomy for the entire season or at the first sign of struggles will he have to worry about Sirianni interjecting himself and taking over?

2. Pressurized situation with team expected to win now.

3. Jalen Hurts is a limited QB.

4. AJ Brown - traded or will he be back and discontent again?

5. OL health - the play of the OL can make or break any offensive scheme. What's the inside scoop on LJ, Dickerson and Jurgens and their futures?

6. Overall structure of the organization...Howie/Lurie don't want coaches who want any say on things outside of coaching matters. Is this a turn-off? For HC candidates it has to be. For OC? Maybe.

7. On the plus side - they'd have a GM who will do his best to supply coaches with talent that fits their vision and an owner who is willing to pay.

8. On the plus side - they have a championship ready defense and a QB who has been to 2 SBs and the MVP of one. They could just be the right OC away from getting there again thus setting himself up as a future HC.

A lot of this is over-exaggerated. Especially Jalen Hurts being a limited QB. We know this guy can perform well, very well, in the Super Bowl. And that's when it matters most.

However, I do agree with OL comments. In less than 12 months, we went from having one of the best OLs in the league to having a weak, pathetic, below-average OL. I'm not optimistic about Dickerson or Jurgens ever being as good as they once were. We need a new LG and C, either through the draft or free agency.

I also agree with the comments about the pressure. Let's face it. The new OC will be on the hot seat first game in the pre-season. The guy is going to get marinated for any offensive let-up during the season.

45 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

There was a report that they were giving full autonomy over the offense to select coaches

I could see the win now being a problem. We did just fire a coach after a winning season. Though he deserved it because the offense was a problem all season

AJ probably is likely happier in a different offense. People seriously need to let go this idea that he's going anywhere

Oline health is definitely an issue. Cam and Landon already have a bad injury history. Plus losing Lane to either retirement. And if Lane does stay then we're most likely going to lose him to an injury for a few weeks

Defense should be a selling point. Get a competent offense going and we're winning a lot of games

They may say "full autonomy" (if they're even saying that in truth), but as an outside guy you'd have to wonder if Sirianni would hold true to that over the course of the entire season. If we struggle in the beginning and lose some games due to the offense, will Sirianni step in? Plans change based on circumstances.

And Brown 100% might be traded. That, at this point, is a very legit question and one I'm sure an OC candidate will ask about.

2 minutes ago, JamesK said:

A lot of this is over-exaggerated. Especially Jalen Hurts being a limited QB. We know this guy can perform well, very well, in the Super Bowl. And that's when it matters most.

However, I do agree with OL comments. We went from having one of the best OLs in the league to having a below-average OL in less than 12 months. I'm not optimistic about Dickerson or Jurgen ever being as good as they once were. We need a new LG and C, either through the draft or free agency.

I also agree with the comments about the pressure. Let's face it. The new OC will be on the hot seat first game in the pre-season. The guy is going to get marinated for any offensive let-up during the season.

I don't think any of it is "over exaggerated", but that's just me. Just as me thinking Hurts is a limited QB. Yes we know he can perform well, has done it, has won it all!! But yet, he's still "limited" in what he brings to the table overall as an NFL QB. Both things can be true.

3 minutes ago, JamesK said:

A lot of this is over-exaggerated. Especially Jalen Hurts being a limited QB. We know this guy can perform well, very well, in the Super Bowl. And that's when it matters most.

You have to get to the Super Bowl to play well in the Super Bowl. One time he got to the Super Bowl by actually playing well, combined with a pretty good defense in Eagles history that fell flat in the Super Bowl (decent part due to the field). The other time he was a backseat QB until the NFCCG after which he played very well.

He's definitely limited, especially when he isn't interested in running as much, or has slowed down. If you lack fundamental QB elements that are needed to execute schemes and thus need everything schemed open to carry you, you are limited. If you don't throw people open, you are limited. If you don't lead receivers enough to get YAC, you are limited. You can grow from that point though, people can improve or find ways to overcome limitations. Drew Brees had weird issues with his arm after his injury, so he started throwing his ball with different trajectories to allow himself to make all the throws again. Sometimes things like this are needed.

No one wants to deal with siri and jalen. Sad

1 hour ago, EaglesAddict said:

I find this one interesting. No play calling experience, but he has a good rep as a fast rising offensive mind. If we don't go the established play caller route, I think I'd find this guy the most interesting thus far.

It seems we are going to be choosing from candidates who have experience but are less than desirable (Nagy, etc) or candidates with little to no experience (Doyle, etc.). This is a tough spot to be in for sure. I think I would rather roll with an unknown vs someone who has experience but demonstrated they weren't very good.

Regarding the OLine, JMO, but Toth needs to be the Center. If Cam ever gets healthy, move him to Guard.

Fire away at me. 🫣🫣

Didn't Nagy get pushed aside for the Chiefs to re-hire EB as their OC?? Wonder in Andy is getting desperate.

49 minutes ago, time2rock said:

It seems we are going to be choosing from candidates who have experience but are less than desirable (Nagy, etc) or candidates with little to no experience (Doyle, etc.). This is a tough spot to be in for sure. I think I would rather roll with an unknown vs someone who has experience but demonstrated they weren't very good.

I agree. I have zero interest in Nagy and if he's the hire, we should all storm the Novacare with pitchforks and torches, lol.

Jim Bob Cooter? Meh, too much of "it's Shane, not Cooter". Josh Grizzard? Uninspiring. Kingsbury? Uninspiring. Kafka? Again, uninspiring. I say uninspiring because none of them scream "good" but to me, also don't scream "bad"...just rather...meh.

The maybes: Slowik, Scheelhsase (but is it really McVay?)
Intriguing: Doyle, Thomas Brown, Joe Brady, David Shaw

Who else?

54 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Regarding the OLine, JMO, but Toth needs to be the Center. If Cam ever gets healthy, move him to Guard.

Fire away at me. 🫣🫣

Toth looked better than Jurgens when he played.

14 hours ago, Talonblood said:

Bottom line- nobody wants to work with a marionette puppet coach who feels threatened by OC's- that they might take his job. So they refuse to even bother with Philly.

Sirianni days are counting because of the structure of the coaching staff. Oc is the most important position in this coaching staff. Why people would accept to be hire just to be OC and having a bigger impact than the OC ? Nobody.

Eagles need a hc who can call the play a la Ben Johnson or Sean McVay

1 hour ago, chris9210 said:

Sirianni days are counting because of the structure of the coaching staff. Oc is the most important position in this coaching staff. Why people would accept to be hire just to be OC and having a bigger impact than the OC ? Nobody.

Eagles need a hc who can call the play a la Ben Johnson or Sean McVay

That WOULD be nice. Lurie and Howie are afraid of coaches they can't control, though. That's a part of the problem.