1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The Mannion hiring was not inspiring I’ll be honest. Not that I thought it was a terrible hire but it wasn’t really inspiring. But bringing in Grizzard to be the pass game coordinator? That makes a lot of sense to give Mannion some experience on the offense. Because let’s be honest Sirianni is a chocolate fire guard there. So the combo may be a really good one and there’s upside there.

For those saying Mannion hasn’t called plays in the NFL. That’s a completely fair point and look it hasn’t worked out for us in the recent past. But at one point McVay, Shanahan and Johnson hadn’t called plays. At some point every OC (good and bad) hadn’t called plays.

A chocolate fire guard?? That's a new one for me!

14 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That’s a fair point… Though I’d imagine it would have been discussed prior to making the move for Grizzard?

On the other hand, we expect the offense to be successful. In that case, Mannion is a head coach in two years and Grizzard becomes the OC. Win-Win for both guys.

At any rate, I view this offseason with cautious optimism. It’s ridiculous to be negative about two guys who are highly thought of around the league.

This will be a telling season for Hurts, too. With all the talk about his number of offensive coordinators, let’s be serious: Outside of the first few games with Moore, he has always run "The Jalen Hurts Offense.”

Any good OC will play to Hurts’ strengths and keep a lot of what he likes to do. However, it’s also on Jalen to embrace some new concepts which have proven to be successful throughout the league.

1 hour ago, SB52 said:

I wonder if Mannion knew of the Grizzard plans before taking the job? It seems like a good hire for the Eagles, but not so good for the guy looking over his shoulder.

They HAD to have that plan in place and agreements BEFORE the hires, agreeing its a good plan.
I am pretty sure they would NOT just spring it on Mannion. Mannion must be super confident in his
abilities, because having your possible replacement "looking over his shoulder" is a bit much.

On 1/29/2026 at 6:27 PM, Talonblood said:

There was only ONE condition for OC that HAD to be met to keep me watching this team next year-
the new OC had to at least have PLAY CALLING EXPERIENCE. Not only does this clown NOT have that,

he only has been coaching for 2 year!

Its Luries fault 1st and foremost. Then Howie. Then Siri. This org has become the 76ers- a crap show.

I'm out and will have a LOT of free time next year.

So the Eagles failed to tell us they had a 2 part plan. This was my reaction to the 1st part they revealed.
THEN they hire Grizzard the next day, and it walked me back from the ledge. THERE IS THE NEEDED PLAY

CALLING experience if they need him. Thats ALL I needed.

People need to understand what ignorance is and how to deal with it. In this instant reaction world we are constantly having opinions with limited knowledge. That's OK as long as you update when you get the new information.

Did you have your own special feelings about the Mannion hiring alone? Those feelings mean nothing.

There will never be Mannion alone leading the Eagles 2025 offense. Grizzard is on the team and will be a part of this.

They may add a QB coach and a senior analyst, etc.

If you give the Eagles a B+ for both but gave them a C for just Mannion, the C is meaningless.

Its like the cult trying to grade Hurts' career after every throw.

My concerns were NO PATULLO, MINIMAL SIRI, NO NAGY AS OC!

I am thrilled.

Stafford is a slob. He pooped his pants in every single playoff game in 2025 but the scheme, and the WRs, and the running game, gave him endless opportunities. (and drops and taunting, etc..) Hurts, who is a far superior QB to Stafford, will now have a similar system with very good WRs and a good run game assuming the line is not mangled this year.

This is a massive win both for the new system and how it proves that Siri was lobotomized or he bought in to this massive change.

Jordan Love is inferior to Hurts and he shines in that Green Bay passing game.

Baker is inferior to lots of QBs and he had 44 TDs in that 2024 Tampa offense.

Baker had 44 TDs and 10 wins. He led the league with 16 picks, took 40 sacks, and fumbled 13 times (only lost 2 on luck)

This year Baker had 16 TDs to 2 picks on the 6-3 Bucs who were 1-1 vs the Super Bowl teams. 99.2 passer rating.

He had 10 TDs to 9 picks the rest of the way. 78.9 passer rating.

43 minutes ago, time2rock said:

A chocolate fire guard?? That's a new one for me!

Uk saying perhaps? The other is "as useful as a chocolate tea pot”.

37 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Any good OC will play to Hurts’ strengths and keep a lot of what he likes to do. However, it’s also on Jalen to embrace some new concepts which have proven to be successful throughout the league.

Completely agree with you! Hurts needs to do more and embrace new concepts to avoid this offense being predictable.

I like the hire. It is worth a chance grabbing someone from the McVay/Lafleur coaching tree that is up and coming. And maybe we can hold onto a decent OC for more than a season. I'm just glad it wasn't Nagy or someone else on that level (previous OC or offensive-minded HC that flamed out spectacularly).

I think everyone forgets Kellen Moore was looked at as a uninspiring hire. Moore was let go by Dallas and Dallas' offense did even better without Moore and with McCarthy calling the plays. And Moore had a bad season with Herbert before joining the Eagles. He probably wasn't set up to succeed with the Chargers. Overall, people forget Moore was questionable.

I'm also glad they didn't search internally again.

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Uk saying perhaps? The other is "as useful as a chocolate tea pot”.

Yeah I had to look it up after seeing that to see if it was really a thing. And you are right, it is a British idiom for something completely useless.

The best thing to come of these hirings is this: It's quite clear that Howie and Lurie told Sirianni it's time for a new offense and for him to focus on being the CEO head coach. Let's just look at the facts for a second. Sirianni called plays for the first few games of his coaching career and he himself admitted he wasn't good at it and gave it up. The two times Sirianni hired an OC from within and was more involved in the offense it went horribly wrong. This year in particular was so bad that he himself said he got more involved at some point during the year and we all saw how things got worse after the bye.

Mannion played for McVay, Stefanski, and KOC, and coached under Lafleur. Grizzard coached under McDaniel and Cohen. They are finally going in a real different direction with the offense and it's time to sink or swim for both Hurts and Sirianni in 2026. It's risky but let's be honest had they continued on with the same path they were on things weren't going to work out.

I don't know if Mannion and Grizzard will work out but there is certainly reason for optimism, excitement, and intrigue for what could be and with most of the candidates when things got down to the wire that simply wasn't the case. I am also really intrigued to see what happens next. Does AJ Brown stay or get traded. Do they go out and get another WR who has experience with the new coaches, Doubs, Evans, etc, or do they draft a WR high. What happens to the TE position? This is likely going to be a heavy play action, under center offense which uses two and even three TE's. I am all for completely revamping the position and mainly through the draft with a receiving TE early and a legit blocking TE on day three. I'd also keep an eye on Cade Otton in free agency with the Grizzard connection.

As I said, if nothing else this entire direction brings a lot of excitement and intrigue and had they hired a JBC or Nagy that would not have been the case at all.

The unknown and the new scheme are the excitement. I saw a headline with ESP saying 'still not sold'. Of course not the direction they chose had little to base an opinion on. But it doesn't matter now just embrace the mystery (until it's eggs throwing time)

On 1/29/2026 at 5:27 PM, Talonblood said:

There was only ONE condition for OC that HAD to be met to keep me watching this team next year-
the new OC had to at least have PLAY CALLING EXPERIENCE. Not only does this clown NOT have that,

he only has been coaching for 2 year!

Its Luries fault 1st and foremost. Then Howie. Then Siri. This org has become the 76ers- a crap show.

I'm out and will have a LOT of free time next year.

Good bye.

17 hours ago, SkippyX said:

They beat some garbage teams and they had the 23 28 offense.

Shough had 13 total TDs in 9 starts+

He was the 19th rated passer.

Good on them for not picking top 3 and for finishing 5-4 after starting 2-7

They beat:

Carolina x2

Tampa

Jets

Titans

They generated fan interest and showed some promise for a possible 2026 progression to something better than awful.

So what looked to be the worst team in the league at the beginning of the season, starting to a 2-12 record, beat

1. a playoff team, twice

2. a formidable Tampa Bay team

and ended up going 4-1 for their last 5 games? Even that last game was close and were without their only star on offense, Olave.

They did that with a rookie QB, Shough. Other than Olave, not sure what other talent that team even has.

I think that coach did an outstanding job with the team he had. Who knows, had they just started Shough sooner, perhaps they would have had more wins.

On 1/29/2026 at 6:41 PM, Mike030270 said:

It's that last part that bothers me. It's still Nicks offense

Yep. Nick sucks with his Ultra conservative bs.

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

The best thing to come of these hirings is this: It's quite clear that Howie and Lurie told Sirianni it's time for a new offense and for him to focus on being the CEO head coach. Let's just look at the facts for a second. Sirianni called plays for the first few games of his coaching career and he himself admitted he wasn't good at it and gave it up. The two times Sirianni hired an OC from within and was more involved in the offense it went horribly wrong. This year in particular was so bad that he himself said he got more involved at some point during the year and we all saw how things got worse after the bye.

Mannion played for McVay, Stefanski, and KOC, and coached under Lafleur. Grizzard coached under McDaniel and Cohen. They are finally going in a real different direction with the offense and it's time to sink or swim for both Hurts and Sirianni in 2026. It's risky but let's be honest had they continued on with the same path they were on things weren't going to work out.

I don't know if Mannion and Grizzard will work out but there is certainly reason for optimism, excitement, and intrigue for what could be and with most of the candidates when things got down to the wire that simply wasn't the case. I am also really intrigued to see what happens next. Does AJ Brown stay or get traded. Do they go out and get another WR who has experience with the new coaches, Doubs, Evans, etc, or do they draft a WR high. What happens to the TE position? This is likely going to be a heavy play action, under center offense which uses two and even three TE's. I am all for completely revamping the position and mainly through the draft with a receiving TE early and a legit blocking TE on day three. I'd also keep an eye on Cade Otton in free agency with the Grizzard connection.

As I said, if nothing else this entire direction brings a lot of excitement and intrigue and had they hired a JBC or Nagy that would not have been the case at all.

This is a good post. Thank you for taking the time to write this.

For those ready to quit the team because they didn't have a candidate that checked every box, that they had faith in, this post should help show you why you are at home and they are operating a team. Will it definitely work? No. Does it have a better chance of success than hiring Nagy, Kingsbury, or whatever was left? I would say it does.

Season might start a bit rough, but this should make for an exciting season.

3 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Stafford is a slob. He pooped his pants in every single playoff game in 2025 but the scheme, and the WRs, and the running game, gave him endless opportunities. (and drops and taunting, etc..) Hurts, who is a far superior QB to Stafford, will now have a similar system with very good WRs and a good run game assuming the line is not mangled this year.

Buddy, Stafford is every bit the QB Hurts is.

Stafford lost to the Seahawks after throwing for 374 yards and 3 TDs with no INTs. What more would you need him to do.

He had a bad game against the Bears.

Hurts couldn't throw for more than 168 yards against a decimated San Fran defense. Even with Stafford's bad game against the Bears, he threw for 258 yards.

Let's not throw any stones at Stafford. I don't think Hurts would have done any better if he was a Ram.

3 hours ago, Vee said:

Buddy, Stafford is every bit the QB Hurts is.

Stafford lost to the Seahawks after throwing for 374 yards and 3 TDs with no INTs. What more would you need him to do.

He had a bad game against the Bears.

Hurts couldn't throw for more than 168 yards against a decimated San Fran defense. Even with Stafford's bad game against the Bears, he threw for 258 yards.

Let's not throw any stones at Stafford. I don't think Hurts would have done any better if he was a Ram.

I agree Stafford is a good QB. But if I am picking between him and Hurts today for my franchise (imagining I am owner/GM) I would stick with Hurts. I would pair him with a offensive minded playcaller HC that is innovative. If not that then I would do it with a a defensive minded innovative head coach and play caller. Nailing down continuity on at least one side is such a big advantage. Doing that on both sides is where dynasties come from. I believe this is what Lurie/Howie thought there were getting in Sirianni on offense but didnt get the offensive guru - but they got the good CEO head coach. Now they have Fangio to stabilize the D.

I am hopeful this change in offensive scheme and the new blood coming in can set the stage for that continuity on the offensive side of the ball. I hope Sirianni embraces it and is able to learn and grow and create that stability and foster it on the offensive coaching staff.

But I also hope Hurts really leans in and grows. Not just as a player but as an offensive mind. I want too see him take that step and ownership of the offense. I think he needs to in order to help create that year over year stability on offense. I hope Mannion grooms him hard and pushes him as a player to grow into that role. I think he can do it.

3 hours ago, Vee said:

Buddy, Stafford is every bit the QB Hurts is.

Stafford lost to the Seahawks after throwing for 374 yards and 3 TDs with no INTs. What more would you need him to do.

He had a bad game against the Bears.

Hurts couldn't throw for more than 168 yards against a decimated San Fran defense. Even with Stafford's bad game against the Bears, he threw for 258 yards.

Let's not throw any stones at Stafford. I don't think Hurts would have done any better if he was a Ram.

Hurts would absolutely do better than 9 turnover worthy plays in the playoffs with this team..

Stafford had Davante Adams open deep vs Carolina and he flat out missed him.

Stafford goes on these 6 for 17 type slumps in the middle of games with the best offense in the league.

He is not the best QB, never has been close.

Adams and Puka are the best pair of WRs in the league.

Kyren Williams and Blake Corum combined for 1998 yards rushing and 16 rush TDs at about 5.0 a pop.

They combined for 2325 total yards and total 19 TDs

Puka did not just have 1715 and 10 receiving, he also had 105 rushing and a TD.

The Rams line allowed the lowest combined pressure rate in the NFL and they also excelled at run blocking.

You can argue they were the best OL but for sure they were top 5.

I'm guessing you had no clue about any of that. The media just tells you to lick Stafford and you open your mouth and go to the screen.

Stafford was down 11 in the NFCCG and he threw a 3rd down pass into the hands of a Seahawks DB. Then that guy taunted.

That had nothing to do with Stafford. He absolutely sucked on that play.

Tom Brady said that its the OC's job to get his QB layups on throws.

Stafford gets more layups than anyone and he misses a bunch of them anyway.

I will throw every possible stone at the most overrated QB in NFL history, in Stafford.

He is a career 120-118-1 on merit. He is Eli. 2.0

He got to his first SB because Jaquiski dropped a grade Z hideous deep ball popup.

You appear to slurp propaganda so you loves you some Stafford. I watch the actual games.

Stafford on the 2025 Eagles would have been 6-11 if he survived the beating.

The last play of Hurts' season was trying to throw with nobody open. This is a character flaw, apparently.

The last play of Stafford's season was trying to throw with nobody open. He almost won the Super Bowl again!

You know, like last year when he held the ball too long and Carter mauled him like a Grizzly.

Then he threw the ball at the out of bounds stripe on 4th down.

The only way to describe the offense Hurts had to run in 2025 is horrific.

He still had 34 TDs and led them to 11 wins.

They tried running the same scheme with super prospect Tanner McKee. How'd that go?

When things are not perfect for Stafford, he's going to lose 9+ games or go 5-5 and get broken.

We have 17 years of evidence.

I get how the ignorant that have box score only recency bias could consider Stafford a great QB.

Something just hit me today. I could be way off....

Mannion in at OC... no experience at OC, but a lot of upside supposedly. Grizzard has OC and play calling experience. I have a feeling Mannion will have a short to medium leash and Grizzard is the safety blanket bc we all know Siri just can't. If this was their thought process that's pretty smart.

Or I'm giving them way too much benefit ofnthe doubt.

7 hours ago, Vee said:

I think that coach did an outstanding job with the team he had. Who knows, had they just started Shough sooner, perhaps they would have had more wins.

OTOH starting a Rookie QB too soon on a bad team might well delay his development (or worse).

10 hours ago, T-1000 said:

The best thing to come of these hirings is this: It's quite clear that Howie and Lurie told Sirianni it's time for a new offense and for him to focus on being the CEO head coach. Let's just look at the facts for a second. Sirianni called plays for the first few games of his coaching career and he himself admitted he wasn't good at it and gave it up. The two times Sirianni hired an OC from within and was more involved in the offense it went horribly wrong. This year in particular was so bad that he himself said he got more involved at some point during the year and we all saw how things got worse after the bye.

Mannion played for McVay, Stefanski, and KOC, and coached under Lafleur. Grizzard coached under McDaniel and Cohen. They are finally going in a real different direction with the offense and it's time to sink or swim for both Hurts and Sirianni in 2026. It's risky but let's be honest had they continued on with the same path they were on things weren't going to work out.

I don't know if Mannion and Grizzard will work out but there is certainly reason for optimism, excitement, and intrigue for what could be and with most of the candidates when things got down to the wire that simply wasn't the case. I am also really intrigued to see what happens next. Does AJ Brown stay or get traded. Do they go out and get another WR who has experience with the new coaches, Doubs, Evans, etc, or do they draft a WR high. What happens to the TE position? This is likely going to be a heavy play action, under center offense which uses two and even three TE's. I am all for completely revamping the position and mainly through the draft with a receiving TE early and a legit blocking TE on day three. I'd also keep an eye on Cade Otton in free agency with the Grizzard connection.

As I said, if nothing else this entire direction brings a lot of excitement and intrigue and had they hired a JBC or Nagy that would not have been the case at all.

No, I know people aren't going to give him credit but I seriously think if Sirianni wasn't on board with this, they would have just fired him. I think what's more likely is they all came up with this and identified the problem of the rapid turnover, so they came up with a plan to fight it. It's kind of funny because I suggested something very similar to this before.

Of course, unless video proof is given, people will assume Sirianni was mandated this and was kicking and screaming the whole time like a toddler. Lol.

2 hours ago, Portyansky said:

Something just hit me today. I could be way off....

Mannion in at OC... no experience at OC, but a lot of upside supposedly. Grizzard has OC and play calling experience. I have a feeling Mannion will have a short to medium leash and Grizzard is the safety blanket bc we all know Siri just can't. If this was their thought process that's pretty smart.

Or I'm giving them way too much benefit ofnthe doubt.

I had the same thought but more of mentorship then a quick leash.

5 hours ago, Portyansky said:

Something just hit me today. I could be way off....

Mannion in at OC... no experience at OC, but a lot of upside supposedly. Grizzard has OC and play calling experience. I have a feeling Mannion will have a short to medium leash and Grizzard is the safety blanket bc we all know Siri just can't. If this was their thought process that's pretty smart.

Or I'm giving them way too much benefit ofnthe doubt.

Think of Grizzard as the in-house fall back if the Eagles lose Mannion to another team