17 hours ago, JamesK said:

This just isn't true. Every year players across the league are confronted with career ending injuries. You just don't hear about it because they might not be household names. Probably dozens.

And then there are players that might not retire, but they’re just never as good as they once were. Carson Wentz is a good example. He was never the same after his torn ACL. He lost all mobility. Before his injury, he was as mobile as Josh Allen and arguably as good. Now he's a backup QB and not a good one. Too slow and no mobility.

Carson Wentz also seemed to have mental issues in addition to the physical handicaps. How much of the mental part is due to the various hits to the head I don't know but I recall a TV shot of Wentz on the sideline when he was playing for the 'skins. He had kind of a vacant look like he was shell shocked or something.

The red flag is that Jurgens was a top 5 center in 2024 and a bottom 10 center in 2025.

Voodoo, Stems Cells, or Darkness Retreats, and rest don't fix back injuries.

Buh buy.

Toth is a better C. He's hungry and wants it more.

Either way, the Eagles need 2 major offensive line moves. The draft might have to focus on the o line exclusively for them. I have no problem with that- its gotta be done.

1 hour ago, Talonblood said:

Either way, the Eagles need 2 major offensive line moves. The draft might have to focus on the o line exclusively for them. I have no problem with that- its gotta be done.

This is why it is important to sign Phillips. Edge wouldn't be a need and they can concentrate on OL. Otherwise they need to draft an Edge high and that is one less pick they have for an OL.

Cam like Landon I believe struggled through injures all season. Lane was out due to injury and Steen wasn’t good enough. You know if Joe Borrow had a line with 4 question marks on it the excuse machine would be in full force blaming everyone but him for the team’s struggles. Jalen had that line and apparently he’s a bum whose backup needs to start. His team still won’t eleven games, but yeah bring in the backup.

Columbia? Colombia?

Went to Columbia for "treatment" (wink wink).

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

Went to Columbia for "treatment" (wink wink).

In my late 20's I went to Columbia too. Every weekend for like 2 years. 😎😎

On 2/19/2026 at 8:10 AM, JamesK said:

I think we know more than you think.

1) He injured his back.

2) He had back surgery.

3) He was never the same last year.

4) We don't know the exact procedure he had, but we do know the types of back procedures there are.

5) We do know that even the procedures that are considered relatively minor and routine are big deals and have long periods of recovery.

6) And now we find out he's going to Colombia to receive treatments that are not certified by the FDA and largely rejected by the best neurosurgeons on the planet.  

So did he re-injure his back?  Did the surgery fail?  Does he need surgery?  Is this a Hail Mary?

I keep thinking about Eddie Van Halen and how we was going to Germany to receive "alternative" cancer treatments.  One year later, he was dead.  

Anytime someone is leaving the country for treatment like this, that's not a good sign.  

not necessarily, there are certain hallucinogens like Ayahuasca (which are illegal in the USA) that have been shown to greatly improve (even reverse) the long term effects of CTE, Dan Carcillo, former Flyers enforcer used them in Central America with amazing results, and now Johns Hopkins is actually researching them as treatment modalities.

This might be something similar where the treatment is sound but has not yet garnered FDA approval

This offensive line needs to be invested in and not some mid to late round picks hoping they can be developed. Stout is gone now. Time to replenish the line.

Dickerson also made the trip to Columbia for stem cell treatment.

Until they can grow super discs in a lab from a person's stem cells and replace their ruined disc, ruptured disc back injuries are the end of football careers. I have more confidence in Dickerson's titanium and bungee cord joints than Jurgens' back. Both guys likely have to be replaced and I think it would be prudent for Howie to take that approach. If they both come back 100% then the worst result would be having a lot of starting caliber O-linemen, which is a good problem to have.

Jeeze, WTF is going on.

I feel bad for both dudes. To be so young and have these injuries.....ugh.

Again, this sounds like a Hail Mary to me. Traditional treatments aren't working — that's the takeaway here.

11 hours ago, JamesK said:

Again, this sounds like a Hail Mary to me. Traditional treatments aren't working — that's the takeaway here.

So what did your doctor say? Is this a red flag? Or can stem cells provide supplemental benefits?

22 hours ago, JamesK said:

Again, this sounds like a Hail Mary to me. Traditional treatments aren't working — that's the takeaway here.

It sounds to me like Jurgens reported good results to Dickerson and sold him on the idea of getting the procedures.

Stem cell therapy has shown some promise, in general, but has yet to make it to "mainstream" treatment options. Of course, I'm sure this type of treatment hasn't garnered more mainstream approval (or FDA approval) due to the people in charge of that being owned by Big Pharma. Big Pharma wants to reject anything that doesn't involve lifelong or years of taking meds.

That said, stem cell therapy has mixed results and vary from person to person pending what they're trying to treat. Hopefully it helps Jurgenson and Dickerson. We'll see. But I agree that it feels like a "hail mary" attempt at finding some relief so they can continue playing.

Check this out … this is insane.

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

Check this out … this is insane.

Crazy that he played like that... The fact that they let him play like that looks even worse then it did before.

On 2/18/2026 at 8:44 PM, JamesK said:

I just had a minimally invasive decompression procedure for my back. The purpose was to relieve severe stenosis at L4-L5, which was due to a herniated disc. They drilled two holes into my vertebrae and pulled out matter that was impinging on my central nervous system. So far, it looks like a success. My life will get back to normal, but here's the big difference. I'm not a center in the NFL.

Now I'm not sure what's going on with Cam, but I can say for sure the procedure I had was relatively minor compared to most back procedures. And I was still told no working out, no exercising, and no gym for 6 months. If I were an NFL player, my career would be over, and again, this is one of the most minor back operations there is.

If Jurgens is visiting Columbia for stem cell treatments, that tells me a couple of things. 1) Last year's surgery either failed or he re-injured his back. 2) The best hospitals on the planet (e.g., Mayo Clinic) are probably giving him news he doesn't want to hear. He probably needs a Fusion procedure, and now we're talking about serious back surgery. If so, that's a career ender. He's never playing again.

I'm not a Doctor, but I think this stem cell treatment is like a Hail Mary pass, and his attempt to avoid a career-ending surgical procedure.

Just my 2 cents, but it's based on a lot of relavant, real-life experience.

You are right - I’m in the business and the stem cell injection is total BS - that’s why you can’t get it in the US with insurance paying for it.

Should have drafted the player with less of an injury history that year in Creed Humphrey, now we have to use another top pick on an OG plus and OT.

On 3/12/2026 at 10:41 AM, EaglesAddict said:

Stem cell therapy has shown some promise, in general, but has yet to make it to "mainstream" treatment options. Of course, I'm sure this type of treatment hasn't garnered more mainstream approval (or FDA approval) due to the people in charge of that being owned by Big Pharma. Big Pharma wants to reject anything that doesn't involve lifelong or years of taking meds.

That said, stem cell therapy has mixed results and vary from person to person pending what they're trying to treat. Hopefully it helps Jurgenson and Dickerson. We'll see. But I agree that it feels like a "hail mary" attempt at finding some relief so they can continue playing.

Injecting stem cells is like injecting saline- it’s a placebo. There are no proper peer reviewed trials which show statisticalltmsignificant results. That’s why only charlatans treat people and no insurers cover the procedures.

I believe again that this is why an OL will be the top pick. In a year or two Jurgens, Dickerson, Johnson will be gone. They have 5th and 6th round picks to replace them at this moment. Some people don't like Steen for some reason, maybe because he isn't an all-pro. But he is solid and needs to be extended otherwise 4/5 of the OL is history. This is reality.

9 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Crazy that he played like that... The fact that they let him play like that looks even worse then it did before.

Wonder what the odds are that he ever recovers fully ... to return completely to the condition he was in prior to this. I'm not a doctor (nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express ) but am guessing not likely.

Him being trotted out week after week basically crippled was criminal. What an embarrassment. Who decides to play a guy that can barely walk? On a team trying to make a back to back run. Was Lurie ok with this? Howie? It's unbelievable. Not just as an affect to the team but his general health and welfare.

I've never seen anyone play this messed up for an entire season continually put in a lineup. Maybe a game or two. Whoever made these decisions, and there's more than one that we know of, needs to be put into a cannon and shot into the Sun.