On 3/14/2026 at 12:45 PM, T-1000 said:

Sydney Brown is one of the worst safeties in the NFL. There is no putting it together for him with his lack of football IQ.

Mukuba and Carter would absolutely be terrible. First of all, Mukuba has 10 NFL starts at safety and Carter has zero. Second and more importantly having two starting safeties under 6'0 and 190 lbs is just a disaster waiting to happen. They had better have a plan to add a couple of guys to the position, with the least they should do being to bring back Epps and draft someone on day two or early day three.

On 3/14/2026 at 1:32 PM, Road to Victory said:

Mukuba looks more suited for a nickel role. That guy got trucked anytime they ran at him. He’s way too small to be a starter. I would rather have Epps in there.

Mukuba entered the NFL at the same size Dawkins did. Dawkins added some weight over time. That doesn't mean Mukuba will, but I would expect him to spend time in the weight room and get stronger. His 10 starts came in 11 games played before his injury.

When we traded for CJGJ, he had 0 starts at safety and most of his starts came as a nickel corner.

We all want all-pro players at every position. But even a guy like Dawkins only made all-pro 5 times in 14 years and didn't make his first one until his 6th season or his 1st pro bowl until his 4th. Fans don't want to be patient, but there's a reason why rookie deals are cheaper than quality veteran players. Being able to win a starting role on a super bowl caliber defense is actually a positive sign.

The difference between Epps and Mukuba at this point is Epps is an adequate replacement worth around the vet minimum. He has zero upside, but is not a huge liability. Mukuba actually demonstrates playmaking skills, has plenty of upside and also is not a huge liability. I would take Mukuba over Epps any day.

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

Dallas is ALL Eagles. Took pay cut last year. This year turned away free agency just to stay HOME. My man. Love the resigning. Love the player. Very happy to see him here for at least one more year...Or more?

6 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Mukuba entered the NFL at the same size Dawkins did. Dawkins added some weight over time. That doesn't mean Mukuba will, but I would expect him to spend time in the weight room and get stronger. His 10 starts came in 11 games played before his injury.

When we traded for CJGJ, he had 0 starts at safety and most of his starts came as a nickel corner.

We all want all-pro players at every position. But even a guy like Dawkins only made all-pro 5 times in 14 years and didn't make his first one until his 6th season or his 1st pro bowl until his 4th. Fans don't want to be patient, but there's a reason why rookie deals are cheaper than quality veteran players. Being able to win a starting role on a super bowl caliber defense is actually a positive sign.

The difference between Epps and Mukuba at this point is Epps is an adequate replacement worth around the vet minimum. He has zero upside, but is not a huge liability. Mukuba actually demonstrates playmaking skills, has plenty of upside and also is not a huge liability. I would take Mukuba over Epps any day.

Mukuba and Epps are both backups. Neither one is the answer. From what I’m seen so far, Mukuba can make plays in the passing game but is a huge liability against the run.

Mukuba doesn’t have the frame to add size nor does he have the mentality to be a run stopper. He’s the furthest thing from Brian Dawkins.

36 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

Mukuba and Epps are both backups. Neither one is the answer. From what I’m seen so far, Mukuba can make plays in the passing game but is a huge liability against the run.

Mukuba doesn’t have the frame to add size nor does he have the mentality to be a run stopper. He’s the furthest thing from Brian Dawkins.

He doesn't have to be Brian Dawkins. He just has to be a good starter.

vic Fangio on mukuba

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Vic Fangio noted significant growth in rookie safety Andrew Mukuba by late 2025, stating he is "not a rookie anymore" due to improved consistency and fewer big plays allowed. While initially describing Mukuba’s season as "uneven", Fangio credited his development with helping the Eagles' defensive improvement, although he previously noted the need for more strength.

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Key details regarding Fangio's assessment of Mukuba:

Progressive Trust: After an uneven start, Fangio recognized Mukuba’s improved consistency in November 2025, noting a reduction in the "bad plays" that occurred early in the season.

Transition from Rookie: By game 11, Fangio stated that due to playing time and experience, Mukuba was no longer playing like a typical rookie.

"Rookie Tax": Fangio referenced the need to "pay taxes" (experience growing pains) when playing rookies, acknowledging he had to live with some shaky play earlier in the season.

Physicality and Role: While recognized as a "hitter," early assessments pointed to a need for more strength and consistency in his tackling, with hope that he could become a major, reliable piece of the secondary.

I'll take what Fangio says of Mukuba over the eye test of people sitting on their couch lol.

10 hours ago, Road to Victory said:

Mukuba and Epps are both backups. Neither one is the answer. From what I’m seen so far, Mukuba can make plays in the passing game but is a huge liability against the run.

Mukuba doesn’t have the frame to add size nor does he have the mentality to be a run stopper. He’s the furthest thing from Brian Dawkins.

Budda Baker, Winfield Jr, Tyrann Honey Bradger are all undersized as well. Safeties can excel and be weak in their unique ways.

5 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

vic Fangio on mukuba

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Vic Fangio noted significant growth in rookie safety Andrew Mukuba by late 2025, stating he is "not a rookie anymore" due to improved consistency and fewer big plays allowed. While initially describing Mukuba’s season as "uneven", Fangio credited his development with helping the Eagles' defensive improvement, although he previously noted the need for more strength.

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Key details regarding Fangio's assessment of Mukuba:

Progressive Trust: After an uneven start, Fangio recognized Mukuba’s improved consistency in November 2025, noting a reduction in the "bad plays" that occurred early in the season.

Transition from Rookie: By game 11, Fangio stated that due to playing time and experience, Mukuba was no longer playing like a typical rookie.

"Rookie Tax": Fangio referenced the need to "pay taxes" (experience growing pains) when playing rookies, acknowledging he had to live with some shaky play earlier in the season.

Physicality and Role: While recognized as a "hitter," early assessments pointed to a need for more strength and consistency in his tackling, with hope that he could become a major, reliable piece of the secondary.

I'll take what Fangio says of Mukuba over the eye test of people sitting on their couch lol.

What do you expect Fangio to say about a rookie?

How do think he played the run this year?

12 hours ago, brkmsn said:

He doesn't have to be Brian Dawkins. He just has to be a good starter.

Agreed. People still haven't adjusted to the fact that the league has evolved to where safeties can't be a Dawkins. The very successful safeties in this era are more so ball skill, good coverage, and take down tacklers rather than the big hitter impact tackler types. Mukuba fits the current day safety archetype.