Now no longer under contract in 2028. Likely frees up cap.

Interesting

He's retiring in a season or two.

Another O Line hole to fill. This is getting ridiculous.

Not exactly encouraging about him being healthy this year.

Definitely have to refill the OL pipeline. We could easily lose Dickerson and Johnson after this season...and Jurgens will be a wildcard too. If we want to compete for a SB this year, I'd be taking OL in Rounds 1 and 2. Can't afford the OL to play like they did last year.

Could Fred play guard? Also, is Steen still under contract?

8 minutes ago, scottr@pictips.com said:

Could Fred play guard? Also, is Steen still under contract?

Steen was drafted in '23 ... he still has 1 more year left on his rookie contract.

3 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Steen was drafted in '23 ... he still has 1 more year left on his rookie contract.

I guess the better question would be is he starting?

2 hours ago, LacesOut said:

He's retiring in a season or two.

Another O Line hole to fill. This is getting ridiculous.

Which is why they need to find cams dickersons and lanes replacement STAT.

We only have 1 dependable lineman and thats mailata.

I don't know how to feel about Steen. MID player. Just a guy. I suppose hes OK.

they are going to be drafting oline heavy in the next two drafts IMO and they need to.

while i want to give the new offensive coaching group a chance, i'd sure feel better if stout were here to coach these incoming rookies.

again though, i gotta give the new coaches a chance.

No surprise there. His wheels were all refurbished before he ever played a snap in the NFL. This doesn't look like a great year for O-line prospects. Hopefully the Eagles can find at least one really good O-lineman in the draft to be a future replacement at one of the 3 positions where they desperately need a guy.

3 hours ago, LacesOut said:

He's retiring in a season or two.

Another O Line hole to fill. This is getting ridiculous.

They should probably draft at least three OL in the draft with two in the first four picks.

Eagles line is kind of a mess. Landon agreeing to less years and an incentive contract has me believing that he really was considering retiring and his body isn’t healthy anymore. His knees were bad when they drafted him which is why they were able to get him when they did to begin with. One guard with bad needs, a center with a bad back, another guard who looks like he’s best suited to be a rotational interior lineman, and a tackle who is often injured that could retire at any moment. Howie has a lot of work to do in order to replenish this offensive line.

1 hour ago, EagleMatt said:

Which is why they need to find cams dickersons and lanes replacement STAT.

We only have 1 dependable lineman and thats mailata.

I don't know how to feel about Steen. MID player. Just a guy. I suppose hes OK.

Don’t forget about Lane too.

Both Drew Kendall and Cameron Williams played pretty decent late last season. Nobody seems to consider the possibility of either of them developing into a legit starter. Steen has been talked about and he is coming off a very solid first year as a starter.

I swear ... the doom and gloom around here is thick.

Woe is me ... I don't know what will happen in the future ... poor me ...

Seems like a smart move by the organisation. He is incentivised to play well. We don’t have to worry about whether he’ll hang them up leaving us with a huge dead cap hit. And if he decides to continue playing then we can always extend him or bring him back after he’s tested FA.

5 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Both Drew Kendall and Cameron Williams played pretty decent late last season. Nobody seems to consider the possibility of either of them developing into a legit starter. Steen has been talked about and he is coming off a very solid first year as a starter.

I swear ... the doom and gloom around here is thick.

Woe is me ... I don't know what will happen in the future ... poor me ...

I agree that Kendall should be better this year and is there but my issue and of course we have to wait and see is we drafted guys like Williams,Hollins and the other big man whose name is escaping me with Stout's vision of the offense and what he expects out of his lineman..

this offense is apparently in need of more mobile lineman...of course they have to be given a chance and they actually may be better at this NEW thinking then Stout's...

47 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said:

I agree that Kendall should be better this year and is there but my issue and of course we have to wait and see is we drafted guys like Williams,Hollins and the other big man whose name is escaping me with Stout's vision of the offense and what he expects out of his lineman..

this offense is apparently in need of more mobile lineman...of course they have to be given a chance and they actually may be better at this NEW thinking then Stout's...

Sometimes I wonder if we put Stoutland on too high a pedestal. He was here last year and we saw him choose to play the guys that played --- whether they were hurt and less effective or not. That was his call. We drafted Andre Dillard under him and he didn't work out. We Drafted Matt Pryor under him and he was mostly awful until he left, finally had a good season for another team, came back here and was awful. There are a lot of other teams in the NFL that also had good O-lines over the years. The players liked Stoutland. Maybe they'll like the new guy too. But any player that wants to be great is going to have to put in the work regardless of who the coach is.

Sorry, but I think it’s pretty unrealistic to think these middle to late round picks will all be the answers to the Eagles offensive line woes. I mean clearly Dickerson and Cam were clearly hobbled all last year, but they kept putting them out there. Lane was injured for a good portion of the season and the ran to Fred Johnson a guy they originally didn’t bother resigning. This situation won’t be fixed by the backups we have right now. To try and hype up these mid round picks while dismissing the guy who was developing them is crazy work. 😂🤣😂

4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Sorry, but I think it’s pretty unrealistic to think these middle to late round picks will all be the answers to the Eagles offensive line woes. I mean clearly Dickerson and Cam were clearly hobbled all last year, but they kept putting them out there. Lane was injured for a good portion of the season and the ran to Fred Johnson a guy they originally didn’t bother resigning. This situation won’t be fixed by the backups we have right now. To try and hype up these mid round picks while dismissing the guy who was developing them is crazy work. 😂🤣😂

Sure sure cuz iate round picks never work out and 1st and 2nd round picks never bust...😒

10 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Sorry, but I think it’s pretty unrealistic to think these middle to late round picks will all be the answers to the Eagles offensive line woes. I mean clearly Dickerson and Cam were clearly hobbled all last year, but they kept putting them out there. Lane was injured for a good portion of the season and the ran to Fred Johnson a guy they originally didn’t bother resigning. This situation won’t be fixed by the backups we have right now. To try and hype up these mid round picks while dismissing the guy who was developing them is crazy work. 😂🤣😂

I'm not saying he wasn't a good position coach. He was. We all agree on that, but he's not the only good O-line coach to ever grace the sideline. The Eagles have actually had a few over the last 3 decades.

We have no way of knowing how developmental prospects will eventually turn out. Mailata started his career as one and he wasn't trusted to step on the field until his 3rd season and he kept getting better the more he played. All I know is Cam and Drew both looked better than our experienced backups last year when given a chance to play and they didn't get the benefit of playing alongside the starters. So there is reason to have some optimism they can continue to improve regardless of the name of the position coach.

So should we put all our eggs in that basket? No. We don't have to since we have starters at those position already ahead of them. They can keep developing in practice or maybe they'll get their shot if an injury happens. But right now, the plan is we start Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Steen and Lane Johnson. "But ... but ... what if they all get hurt and retire during the season?" What if all your tires go flat on your way to work? Do you carry four spares? I mean ... some of the people here must not ever sleep knowing deep down that only bad things are possible.

We can draft 3 offensive linemen with our first 3 picks and they can all get hurt too ... or worse ... become NFL busts.

Draft BPA and stop reaching for Dillards, Reagors and JJAWs.

I think it tells a lot about Dickerson. He will not last long. That and LJ situation make me think Eagles should make OL safety and DE a huge priority for the draft

The loss of Stoutland is going to be felt this year.......Chris Kuper is a pretty unaccomplished replacement.