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Cleveland is Done

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I am never going to tell a team that they have to start Deshaun Watson but wow, Shedeur is not an NFL QB.

The only reason to start Shedeur 17 times is so you can go 4-13 and pick a new QB next year.

From what I have seen today, they should trade for Keenum and start him.

Crazy cuz it's a pretty solid roster if they could get anything at all from the Qb position.

Sanders was asked about the INT he threw last night. This was part of his response. He doesn’t lack confidence like his father, he just had zero the talent.

Any decision I make, I know is the right decision, I just didn't execute the decision, but a great decision was made

10 hours ago, EaglesIreland said:

Sanders was asked about the INT he threw last night. This was part of his response. He doesn’t lack confidence like his father, he just had zero the talent.

Jesus H Christ..... he must have gone to school with Kamala Harris

On 8/15/2026 at 3:26 PM, SkippyX said:

Shedeur is not an NFL QB.

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6 hours ago, paco said:

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his pick by pick meltdown about sanders not being selected made that draft worth watching beyond the first day.

Mel Kiper Jr. says he's "disgusted" at Shedeur Sanders ...

Kiper gets the tar and feathers but the entire draftnik apparatus had everybody believing he was at least a 1st rd Qb.

15 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Kiper gets the tar and feathers but the entire draftnik apparatus had everybody believing he was at least a 1st rd Qb.

  1. Field Yates (ESPN): Ranked Sanders 16th overall on his final pre-draft big board and as the No. 2 quarterback in the class behind only Cam Ward.

  2. Daniel Jeremiah (NFL.com / NFL): Slotted Sanders as the 20th-ranked overall player in his final big board, maintaining a firm first-round grade on him.

  3. Mel Kiper Jr. (ESPN): Strongly championed Sanders' on-field play and polished passing ability, pushing back heavily on his mid-process critics.

  4. Jordan Reid (ESPN): Evaluated him as the most polished passer in the 2025 draft class due to his low off-target percentage and poise under pressure.

  5. Emory Hunt (CBS Sports): Gave Sanders a pre-draft grade that scored higher than any other quarterback in his respective class.

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22 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Kiper gets the tar and feathers but the entire draftnik apparatus had everybody believing he was at least a 1st rd Qb.

Yeah. But Kiper was the loudest about it.

13 minutes ago, paco said:

Yeah. But Kiper was the loudest about it.

muthafracker was testifying like he was al sharpton.

ANY QB that gets drafted by the Cleveland browns, their career is severely hampered.

Any parent, agent or college coach who is advising a top level draft prospect would be well advised to avoid franchises like Cleveland, the NY Jets, the AZ cardinals, the Raiders and the Falcons......they can neither recognize QB talent and cannot develop one. If they get drafted by one of those, go to Canada for a year or two, or flat out to refuse to report.... Demand a trade......teams with bad front offices and revolving doors for head coaches is the best way to destroy your career.

Browns named Deshaun Watson as the starting QB. The fans seem normal about it.

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On 8/15/2026 at 3:26 PM, SkippyX said:

I am never going to tell a team that they have to start Deshaun Watson but wow, Shedeur is not an NFL QB.

The only reason to start Shedeur 17 times is so you can go 4-13 and pick a new QB next year.

From what I have seen today, they should trade for Keenum and start him.

I disagree. It's the smart move. Whoever starts in Cleveland is likely to fail. Better to let Watson absorb that failure instead of ruining the confidence of a young player who isn't ready. Much better situation for a young QB to replace Watson mid-season, unless of course Watson plays well - then the move will have been a good one.

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On 8/26/2026 at 11:55 AM, Procus said:

I disagree. It's the smart move. Whoever starts in Cleveland is likely to fail. Better to let Watson absorb that failure instead of ruining the confidence of a young player who isn't ready. Much better situation for a young QB to replace Watson mid-season, unless of course Watson plays well - then the move will have been a good one.

Setting up Watson to get beat up in the Florida heat and humidity in the first 2 weeks vs better teams is the right play. I doubt Shedeur is ready by week 3 (or ever) but getting him destroyed twice in Florida in September is a definite no for me. I'd be fine with them starting Gabriel in week 3 but I am also fine with Shedeur falling on his face every week for the last 15 games.

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Just FYI: Shite-Door was 70th in Passer rating last year (61st of everyone who threw more than 2 passes)

He was 87th in interception %

71st in completion %

69th in ANY/A

46th in ypa

50th in TD%

He was not rookie starter bad. He was draft bust even in round 5 bad.

Giovani Carmazi, Josh Rosen, Cade McNown, and JaMarcus Russell were also drafted.

Shedeur is the Danny Watkins or Vernon Gholston of QBs.

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On 8/16/2026 at 4:33 AM, dawkins4prez said:

Crazy cuz it's a pretty solid roster if they could get anything at all from the Qb position.

Watson is giving them more than anything, he's playing legit mature ball and I got no problem declaring the Browns are for real as long as he can keep it up.

Just now, dawkins4prez said:

Watson is giving them more than anything, he's playing legit mature ball and I got no problem declaring the Browns are for real as long as he can keep it up.

He must have found himself a good masseuse

Just now, mikemack8 said:

He must have found himself a good masseuse

He's a completely different player, but he's making great decisions moving around the pocket and doing a lot of the little things. Browns have got a ton of young talent on both sides of the ball.

Some say that if the Browns can get a QB, watch out.

But some said that about the Texans too. So……….

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