April 23, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, Gannan said: I saw him in Bill Maher. He’s at least intelligent and articulates his points well, and has served our country valiantly. I don’t care for his defense of Trump’s odious behavior. Saw that too and came away with the same thoughts.
April 23, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, Outlaw said: What personal example of mass hysteria from republicans do you have? Several hundred Trumpers were at my state capitol earlier this week protesting the stay at home order mandated by the state. Again, my Governor is a Republican and the state House and Senate are both super majority republican. I have tons of Facebook posts in my feed with the same opinion, but I'm not posting them on a public message board.
April 23, 20205 yr 16 hours ago, TomatoPie said: He's mostly a Trump-defending POS First reply - BUT TRUMP
April 23, 20205 yr Author 16 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: Several hundred Trumpers were at my state capitol earlier this week protesting the stay at home order mandated by the state. Again, my Governor is a Republican and the state House and Senate are both super majority republican. I have tons of Facebook posts in my feed with the same opinion, but I'm not posting them on a public message board. If we're going off Facebook/Twitter, I can easily provide just as many references from the other side of the spectrum.
April 23, 20205 yr I respect Crenshaw for his military service...and his badazz eyepatch. I don't follow his politics, but anyone still supporting/defending cheeto at this point is an imbecile.
April 23, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: I respect Crenshaw for his military service...and his badazz eyepatch. I don't follow his politics, but anyone still supporting/defending cheeto at this point is an imbecile. Our senators in TX (Cruz and Cornyn) are two of the biggest Trump defenders around. Not sure why everyone’s name begins with a C
April 23, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: If we're going off Facebook/Twitter, I can easily provide just as many references from the other side of the spectrum. You don't think 8 years of propagated outrage throughout Obama's presidency and Hillary's butter emails has anything to do with the Trump cult we have right now? Interesting.
April 23, 20205 yr Author 28 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: You don't think 8 years of propagated outrage throughout Obama's presidency and Hillary's butter emails has anything to do with the Trump cult we have right now? Interesting. Deflect deflect deflect. And bringing Obama into it?
April 23, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, toolg said: I don't care, that joke was funny. Or whatever. Only the President is allow to deliver below-the-belt zingers (about dead people, gold star families, etc.). Comedians are held to a much higher standard. In his defense, Crenshaw handled it well and made it clear that he didn't care.
April 23, 20205 yr 16 hours ago, Outlaw said: What personal example of mass hysteria from republicans do you have? I'll start. The last president was a secret muslim from Kenya. The last democratic nominee was running a child sex ring out of a pizza joint.
April 23, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Only the President is allow to deliver below-the-belt zingers (about dead people, gold star families, etc.). Comedians are held to a much higher standard. In his defense, Crenshaw handled it well and made it clear that he didn't care. Crenshaw's reaction to this was great. Joked about it, didn't get outraged. The bit with him having an Ariana Grande ring tone was hysterical.
April 23, 20205 yr Author 5 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I agree with him here. This is what I find with him. Despite supporting the President (which 99.9% of republican in the house/senate do), I think he has a good common sense approach to most issues and actually has some Libertarian tendencies which I like.
April 23, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I agree with him here. I've read that in a public place if everyone is wearing a proper mask, the contagion rate goes from 88% down to 2-3%. I'm having a tough time reconciling the "Oh my god we need to reopen the economy now no matter what the costs" argument and the "I refuse to wear a mask no matter what" argument coming from the same side. It seems to me that the only way to get back to going about our business is to test everyone and wear masks until we get an effective vaccine. This idea that we will trust people to do the right thing and the smart thing without enforcement is pure fantasy island. If this pandemic hasn't made it painfully clear that we are a nation of reckless morons, nothing will.
April 23, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, Gannan said: I've read that in a public place if everyone is wearing a proper mask, the contagion rate goes from 88% down to 2-3%. I'm having a tough time reconciling the "Oh my god we need to reopen the economy now no matter what the costs" argument and the "I refuse to wear a mask no matter what" argument coming from the same side. It seems to me that the only way to get back to going about our business is to test everyone and wear masks until we get an effective vaccine. This idea that we will trust people to do the right thing and the smart thing without enforcement is pure fantasy island. If this pandemic hasn't made it painfully clear that we are a nation of reckless morons, nothing will. Morons will be morons. We can’t legislate intelligence any more than we can morality. Most people are doing the right thing, the media tends to cover those doing the wrong thing more.
April 23, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Morons will be morons. We can’t legislate intelligence any more than we can morality. Most people are doing the right thing, the media tends to cover those doing the wrong thing more. We legislate reckless stupid behavior all the time. Its why we have speed limits stop signs speed bumps laws against negligent homicide drunk driving I could go on. Once someone's reckless behavior endangers my well being, it's where someone's right to act like a moron ends and my right to live begins. As far as ",most people doing the right thing goes", sorry that isn't good enough. If 70% are doing the right thing and 30% are spreading this through their reckless behavior, it can do a lot of damage.
April 23, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, Outlaw said: Deflect deflect deflect. And bringing Obama into it? Uhhh yeah. 8 years of republicans building outrage over tan suits, birth certificates, secret muslim that hated America. Enough people were pizzed off enough to vote for trump, the angriest candidate on the debate stage.
April 24, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Gannan said: We legislate reckless stupid behavior all the time. Its why we have speed limits stop signs speed bumps laws against negligent homicide drunk driving I could go on. Once someone's reckless behavior endangers my well being, it's where someone's right to act like a moron ends and my right to live begins. As far as ",most people doing the right thing goes", sorry that isn't good enough. If 70% are doing the right thing and 30% are spreading this through their reckless behavior, it can do a lot of damage. Yes, so many laws to give us the appearance we are safer. Traffic accidents and fatalities are way down right now. Maybe we should ban driving? And let’s not forget that the same group of people who told us not to wear a mask about a month ago, not want to forcibly remove you from a bus or excessively punish you for not wearing one. "Thank you sir, I’ll have another.” Unless you are not in my face, I couldn’t care less if you were a mask. The stores I go to now make their customers wear masks. If they didn’t, I could choose not to go there. Im not sorry that I don’t have the desire to force my morals on others.
April 24, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: Yes, so many laws to give us the appearance we are safer. Traffic accidents and fatalities are way down right now. Maybe we should ban driving? And let’s not forget that the same group of people who told us not to wear a mask about a month ago, not want to forcibly remove you from a bus or excessively punish you for not wearing one. "Thank you sir, I’ll have another.” Unless you are not in my face, I couldn’t care less if you were a mask. The stores I go to now make their customers wear masks. If they didn’t, I could choose not to go there. Im not sorry that I don’t have the desire to force my morals on others. Eh, it's one thing to outright make them mandatory forever, and it's another to make them mandatory for a few weeks.
April 24, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Bill said: Eh, it's one thing to outright make them mandatory forever, and it's another to make them mandatory for a few weeks. What sound does freedom make when we start down a slippery slope?
April 24, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: Yes, so many laws to give us the appearance we are safer. Traffic accidents and fatalities are way down right now. Maybe we should ban driving? And let’s not forget that the same group of people who told us not to wear a mask about a month ago, not want to forcibly remove you from a bus or excessively punish you for not wearing one. "Thank you sir, I’ll have another.” Unless you are not in my face, I couldn’t care less if you were a mask. The stores I go to now make their customers wear masks. If they didn’t, I could choose not to go there. Im not sorry that I don’t have the desire to force my morals on others. You’re smarter than this. Don’t resort to a straw man like "ban driving!!!”.
April 24, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, sameaglesfan said: What sound does freedom make when we start down a slippery slope? It's mandatory that I wear clothing outside. Is wearing an extra piece of fabric for a few weeks that big of a deal?
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