QBhunter58 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Our secondary needs help, and I would love to see the eagles finally draft a freaking safety in the first half of the draft for a change. I will admit, I think our first round pick is better utilized for other areas of need (edge rusher, O-lineman, Linebacker, or Chase 😆). However, I still think we should consider a pro bowl level safety early in next year's draft, we really blew it by not taking Chinn this year (especially if you are not even going to let hurts play). Corners are still the premium when it comes to the secondary but i have always ben partial to safeties since I was a little kid (we will call it the "brian dawkins effect"). So while an elite corner is ideal, you can give me the Eddie Jackson's, Anthony Harris', Jamal Adams' , and Derwin James' all day. So, the first safety I am choosing to highlight is probably the best, Andre Cisco. I do not make the comparison to Ed Reed lightly, because Ed was one of the best I have ever seen, but this kid has the juice. He is a game changing playmaker who reads and reacts at a level that reminds me of the best safeties in the NFL today. Cisco will likely be a late first round guy so he may not even be an option, but he did have an injury so you never know. I get it, he takes risks and jumps some routes. BUT → speed, aggression, playmaking ability, and good instincts... sign me up.  Love the play at the 1 minute mark  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray75 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Love this kid. Indeed the best safety in the class. Ball hawk! Torn ACL I believe?! Borderline first rounder if not for the injury.Wonder who’ll take a flyer on him in the second?! I admit I was high on Sidney Jones prior to his injury too and was fairly happy when the Eagles took him in the 2nd. That didn’t work out too well. Don’t know if they’d use a high pick on an injured player anytime soon but if Cisco is still on the board at the start of the 3rd, by all means...go get him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philafan4o8 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 This guy is going to be legit. I first saw him play this year in the opener vs North Carolina. He is going to be a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Guinness Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Looks like he's only played in 2 games this season going off the stats on ESPN. He has 11 tackles (7 solo) and 1 INT. The previous 2 seasons he had 125 tackles (87 solo) with 12 INTs and 14 PDs. I liked Winfield Jr. in the last draft, but TB took him early, because he was a centerfield playmaker. In today's NFL where the rules favour the O players, especially the WRs, the time of the shutdown corner is almost over. What you need are ballhawks who can create TOs and get the ball back to your O. Getting that extra possession or two each game is what is going to help win football games. I'm OK with DBs who get beat now and then so long as they have the ability to create a TO. Right now we have DBs who get beat and create ish. Remember 2017 how we were creating TOs? Our D hasn't done that since. If this kid is a ballhawk, a defensive playmaker, then he's what I want for our D going forward.  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 The ACL tear is the only reason to not draft him in the first and id still consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/1/2020 at 11:37 AM, QBhunter58 said:  I would love to see the eagles finally draft a freaking safety Why do we need a safety, we have Mills!! Seriously, this guy looks like a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/2/2020 at 11:14 AM, Green_Guinness said: What you need are ballhawks who can create TOs and get the ball back to your O. Ballhawks and hitters, this guy is that double whammy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBhunter58 Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 we an got extra mid rounder just saying... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philafan4o8 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Stud! Steal if we can get him in the 3rd! Too much talent so we know Howie will take him off the draft board. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I think this could be a really good pick. If he's there in the third then do it without hesitation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJWolverEagle11 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 17 hours ago, philafan4o8 said: Stud! Steal if we can get him in the 3rd! Too much talent so we know Howie will take him off the draft board. Then we jus gotta tell howie he's drafting for a checkers team so maybe he'll take a football player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetroLot Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Was a big fan until I started looking at film. If you're into guys who consistently blow coverages and both can't tackle or play the run, he's definitely for you. I mean, he is a ballhawk. And that might be the end of anything appealing about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, stinkfist said: Was a big fan until I started looking at film. If you're into guys who consistently blow coverages and both can't tackle or play the run, he's definitely for you. I mean, he is a ballhawk. And that might be the end of anything appealing about him. Even watching just the highlight video on the OP you can tell he just goes for the highlight reel play everytime which is always a gamble. Consistently trying to go for the big play in the NFL is just going to get him burnt a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right4thePicking Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 4:42 PM, philafan4o8 said: Stud! Steal if we can get him in the 3rd! Too much talent so we know Howie will take him off the draft board. Probably would need to get him in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philafan4o8 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Right4thePicking said: Probably would need to get him in the second. You may be right but not at #37. He is coming off torn ACL. He may go mid to late 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right4thePicking Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 12/1/2020 at 11:37 AM, QBhunter58 said: Our secondary needs help, and I would love to see the eagles finally draft a freaking safety in the first half of the draft for a change. I will admit, I think our first round pick is better utilized for other areas of need (edge rusher, O-lineman, Linebacker, or Chase 😆). However, I still think we should consider a pro bowl level safety early in next year's draft, we really blew it by not taking Chinn this year (especially if you are not even going to let hurts play). Corners are still the premium when it comes to the secondary but i have always ben partial to safeties since I was a little kid (we will call it the "brian dawkins effect"). So while an elite corner is ideal, you can give me the Eddie Jackson's, Anthony Harris', Jamal Adams' , and Derwin James' all day. So, the first safety I am choosing to highlight is probably the best, Andre Cisco. I do not make the comparison to Ed Reed lightly, because Ed was one of the best I have ever seen, but this kid has the juice. He is a game changing playmaker who reads and reacts at a level that reminds me of the best safeties in the NFL today. Cisco will likely be a late first round guy so he may not even be an option, but he did have an injury so you never know. I get it, he takes risks and jumps some routes. BUT → speed, aggression, playmaking ability, and good instincts... sign me up.  Love the play at the 1 minute mark  Please grab this baller. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I’m a huge Cisco fan. Would love to have him but I think corner is a much bigger need than safety. I’d be all over Cisco if we got lucky enough for him to be there for the third round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 9 hours ago, nipples said: I’m a huge Cisco fan. Would love to have him but I think corner is a much bigger need than safety. I’d be all over Cisco if we got lucky enough for him to be there for the third round pick. Oh without doubt but I think Cisco in say the third (?) Would be much better value than any CB at that point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Oh without doubt but I think Cisco in say the third (?) Would be much better value than any CB at that point? I mean if the draft fell the way I wanted it would be 1: Chase 2: Samuel Jr 3: Cisco If those were our first three picks I’d be ecstatic. Unfortunately I think Samuel could slip into the late 1st round and Cisco could go in the mid-late 2nd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I’m thinking if both Pitts and Chase are sitting there at 6, maybe they can swap with Carolina to go back to #8 (they’d still get one of Pitts or Chase, assuming carolina’s move up is for a qb). They could possibly pick up a third in the trade with the Panthers... then package that with their own third to get into the mid-late second round to land Cisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 15 hours ago, nipples said: I mean if the draft fell the way I wanted it would be 1: Chase 2: Samuel Jr 3: Cisco If those were our first three picks I’d be ecstatic. Unfortunately I think Samuel could slip into the late 1st round and Cisco could go in the mid-late 2nd I’m right now at: 1: Kyle Pitts, Weapon Florida 2: Tyson Campbell, CB UG 3A: Andre Cisco, S Cuse 3B: Tylan Wallace, WR OKST 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Should have traded up a few spots and got cisco but howie wanted his combine warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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