4 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

russia is communism and we absolutely need to worry about their system of government as it helps dictate their policies. including their cyber-spy activities. 

LOL -- so only communist governments cyber spy?  Okay.    The US does - as does every other major democracy.   Moreover, Russia is technically an Oligarchy now or perhaps a dictatorship (arguably Putin installed himself as dictator over the oligarchy).   The old days of classical communism (i.e. Lenin/Marxist style) in Russia are essentially over -   you may see it in its more classic form maybe in N. Korea and China.

Russia is hyper-capitalist, not communist.  It’s more like the U.S. was in the Gilded Age.

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

russia is communism and we absolutely need to worry about their system of government as it helps dictate their policies. including their cyber-spy activities. 

They're crony capitalist. China is communist.

To me this is a cyber act of war and time we stood up and attacked. 

Of course idiot has said nothing 

58 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

To me this is a cyber act of war and time we stood up and attacked. 

Of course idiot has said nothing 

Why should he start to govern now?  

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

To me this is a cyber act of war and time we stood up and attacked. 

Of course idiot has said nothing 

Trump says it’s overblown media hype. He blames China. 

Had a bunch of stuff written up for everyone as sort of a cliff notes guide to events up to this point but I realized the best way to describe it is...

 

This was not your normal, run of the mill cyber espionage. It was... insidious (I struggle to find a more apt term). Most of you will never truly understand how shaky the ground is right now. The rest of the world is somewhat lucky that this was as targeted as we think it is. While the attack vector on this one near endless, Russia seems to have been hyper focused on American government/NGO's and the IT service industry (<--- really bad).

But I can promise you one thing... in about 3 years from now when we've all forgotten this happened we're going to inevitably be hit with news of some enterprise being victimized by a hack (like we always do every so often) and the post mortem will trace the root of events back to an Orion platform being compromised years prior. It's going to be a long time before we realize the full impact of these events.

This is scary.

https://www.wired.com/story/oldsmar-florida-water-utility-hack/

 

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

 

Probably all over the US. 

5 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

 

 

 

 

On 12/17/2020 at 5:28 PM, toolg said:

Huge news nobody wants to talk about: The US Federal government was a target of a massive cyberattack, affecting several agencies, likely perpetrated from Russia. Foreign agents have access to US emails/systems... How much was breached? How will US respond?

 

 

 

You should follow what going on, Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum has stated that there's another pandemic coming that's going to make COVID-19 look like a minor inconvenience, he said it's going to be a cyber attack that is going to knock out the power grid in the US, they're simply setting the stage for that to happen.

There are many that think massive death will occur during the outage of the power grid, there're going to do it during the cover of darkness when no one will have electricity.   

1 minute ago, EagleVA said:

You should follow what going on, Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum has stated that there's another pandemic coming that's going to make COVID-19 look like a minor inconvenience, he said it's going to be a cyber attack that is going to knock out the power grid in the US, they're simply setting the stage for that to happen.

There are many that think massive death will occur during the outage of the power grid, there're going to do it during the cover of darkness when no one will have electricity.   

So the next pandemic will a cyber-pandemic.

Thanks Mr. Science!!

5 hours ago, Toastrel said:

So the next pandemic will a cyber-pandemic.

Thanks Mr. Science!!

This the problem with posters on this site, everybody wants to be smartarse wiseguy, anything for a laugh.

Listen for yourself to Klaus Schwab's Cyber-Pandemic talk, let's see what kind of arsehole joke you can come up with now.

37 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

This the problem with posters on this site, everybody wants to be smartarse wiseguy, anything for a laugh.

Listen for yourself to Klaus Schwab's Cyber-Pandemic talk, let's see what kind of arsehole joke you can come up with now.

No, you have forced some people, like me, for example, to not take you seriously.

32 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

No, you have forced some people, like me, for example, to not take you seriously.

I was expecting, sorry, you're right, Schwab did speak of a cyber pandemic that will target our power grid, but that would take a classy guy, I guess that's not you huh?

On 2/11/2021 at 8:12 PM, mayanh8 said:

 

There are Cybersecurity professionals being overpaid to give people common sense. It's incredible.

1 hour ago, EagleVA said:

I was expecting, sorry, you're right, Schwab did speak of a cyber pandemic that will target our power grid, but that would take a classy guy, I guess that's not you huh?

Yes, he did.

That does not mean it will come true. People apocalypse in everything.

In case you were still confused about his motivations... Snowden (while "hiding" in Russia) thinks we are all better off with Russian malware in the critical IT infrastructure and businesses that run our country and employ most of us.

Snowden issues aside, it does make me rather apprehensive to see the NSA urging businesses to pick up patches from private companies. 

I get that it can be a legitimate national security message from the NSA. but still....

28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Snowden issues aside, it does make me rather apprehensive to see the NSA urging businesses to pick up patches from private companies. 

I get that it can be a legitimate national security message from the NSA. but still....

Why? It's no different than the FDA telling you to throw out a specific brand of romaine lettuce because of ecoli risk, or NHTSA telling you to take a specific model of vehicle to the dealer due to a recall. This isn't discouraging competition, it's advising prudent cyber security policy for an operating system with predominant market share that was vulnerable.

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Why? It's no different than the FDA telling you to throw out a specific brand of romaine lettuce because of ecoli risk, or NHTSA telling you to take a specific model of vehicle to the dealer due to a recall. This isn't discouraging competition, it's advising prudent cyber security policy for an operating system with predominant market share that was vulnerable.

my trust level with the FDA is higher than the NSA

11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

my trust level with the FDA is higher than the NSA

Blind squirrel...

On 2/11/2021 at 8:12 PM, mayanh8 said:

 

This is very, very common.

Generally speaking, a lot of these companies do not understand IT, firewalls, DMZs - the plant gets slowly computerized with more and more machines being connected. Eventually, some guy in section 12 needs Internet access and the entire network gets connected.

The OS are all old, the firewalls are off, because you need somebody who understands ports used by software.

The passwords are all simple for the guys running the machines, and standardized for shift work, and half the time are taped onto the equipment.

1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

This is very, very common.

Generally speaking, a lot of these companies do not understand IT, firewalls, DMZs - the plant gets slowly computerized with more and more machines being connected. Eventually, some guy in section 12 needs Internet access and the entire network gets connected.

The OS are all old, the firewalls are off, because you need somebody who understands ports used by software.

The passwords are all simple for the guys running the machines, and standardized for shift work, and half the time are taped onto the equipment.

Ironically, passwords being taped to the equipment isn't really much of a security risk in these cases. At least not when compared to how easily the operators can get phished because they aren't trained to spot suspicious emails, or how dumb they can be when it comes to finding random USB drives on the ground in the parking lot with the words TOP SECRET on it.