March 8, 20214 yr 12 hours ago, Dave Moss said: I don't really see a problem with the minimum wage floor (the federal minimum wage number) being set at a number that is sufficient for low-income low-cost-of-living areas, while allowing state and local adjustments to bring the floor up to a more appropriate level for those locales. most cities already have minimum wage numbers well above the federal minimum wage, and even Florida has a statewide number exceeding the federal limit. I can see right-sizing the number to around $10/hour, but $15 is simply not appropriate. do the actual analysis. $10 would be more inline with historical heights of the federal minimum wage level. I do not see minimum wage being some number where people are supposed to support a family. that's just a bollocks argument. it's the same argument that has turned social security, which is supposed to be a bare minimum safety net to keep the elderly from living on the streets, to having to be the retirement plan for too many Americans.
March 8, 20214 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: I admit, I'm not a fan of the Marilyn Monroe hair thing going on lately. but she's a fit, attractive, bi-sexual Arizona State University girl.
March 8, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I admit, I'm not a fan of the Marilyn Monroe hair thing going on lately. but she's a fit, attractive, bi-sexual Arizona State University girl. Aren’t they all like that?
March 8, 20214 yr On 2/2/2021 at 6:35 PM, Dave Moss said: yeah, he was doing the same thing every other business does in our capitalist society - trying to crush his competitors. Have you ever watched the Social Network? Zuckerberg is pretty shady too. Zuckerberg is actually worse.
March 8, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't really see a problem with the minimum wage floor (the federal minimum wage number) being set at a number that is sufficient for low-income low-cost-of-living areas, while allowing state and local adjustments to bring the floor up to a more appropriate level for those locales. most cities already have minimum wage numbers well above the federal minimum wage, and even Florida has a statewide number exceeding the federal limit. I can see right-sizing the number to around $10/hour, but $15 is simply not appropriate. do the actual analysis. $10 would be more inline with historical heights of the federal minimum wage level. I do not see minimum wage being some number where people are supposed to support a family. that's just a bollocks argument. it's the same argument that has turned social security, which is supposed to be a bare minimum safety net to keep the elderly from living on the streets, to having to be the retirement plan for too many Americans. This. A million times this. If you are working for minimum wage, you shouldn't have kids. It's time to reintroduce some personal responsibility.
August 12, 20214 yr https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/mcdonalds-pushes-diners-to-use-trays-as-food-bags-run-tight-11628343262 "Many new crew members have never had to deal with trays before,” the company said in the late-July message. The "transition to using trays has been slower, more difficult because we haven’t done it in so long.” McDonald's workers want $15/hr, but can't figure out how to put food on a tray instead of a bag.
August 12, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, NOTW said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/mcdonalds-pushes-diners-to-use-trays-as-food-bags-run-tight-11628343262 "Many new crew members have never had to deal with trays before,” the company said in the late-July message. The "transition to using trays has been slower, more difficult because we haven’t done it in so long.” McDonald's workers want $15/hr, but can't figure out how to put food on a tray instead of a bag. Well, the workers better put the stuff on the trays correctly, because have you seen the customers? They’re even dumber than the workers.
August 12, 20214 yr On 3/8/2021 at 9:44 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't really see a problem with the minimum wage floor (the federal minimum wage number) being set at a number that is sufficient for low-income low-cost-of-living areas, while allowing state and local adjustments to bring the floor up to a more appropriate level for those locales. most cities already have minimum wage numbers well above the federal minimum wage, and even Florida has a statewide number exceeding the federal limit. I can see right-sizing the number to around $10/hour, but $15 is simply not appropriate. do the actual analysis. $10 would be more inline with historical heights of the federal minimum wage level. I do not see minimum wage being some number where people are supposed to support a family. that's just a bollocks argument. it's the same argument that has turned social security, which is supposed to be a bare minimum safety net to keep the elderly from living on the streets, to having to be the retirement plan for too many Americans. Us min wage absolutely belongs in the $15/hr range. Especially when you factor in the fact inflation is already here and it won't get touched again for another 10-15 years. That's a big hike so the best way to do it would be in phases, starting at $10 and raising it up to $15 by 2028 or so.
August 12, 20214 yr On 3/8/2021 at 12:56 PM, vikas83 said: This. A million times this. If you are working for minimum wage, you shouldn't have kids. It's time to reintroduce some personal responsibility. No, but it should be enough to pay rent with a room mate/pay for transportation where you live and go the movies once a month. The current min wage isn't even decent pocket change.
August 12, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Us min wage absolutely belongs in the $15/hr range. Especially when you factor in the fact inflation is already here and it won't get touched again for another 10-15 years. That's a big hike so the best way to do it would be in phases, starting at $10 and raising it up to $15 by 2028 or so. If we're going to have a minimum wage, it should be pegged to inflation. I say it in this way because I don't want to get into a tangential argument with anyone about whether or not there should be any minimum wage. That's a completely different discussion. The problem I think is that the minimum wage is a national number. $9-10/ hour is a good floor for a national minimum wage. It's only insufficient in particular regions that have higher costs of living. What the minimum wage should NOT be, and never was intended to be, was a wage at which someone could live independently on, especially if they have dependents. That ISN'T what it is for.
August 12, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If we're going to have a minimum wage, it should be pegged to inflation. I say it in this way because I don't want to get into a tangential argument with anyone about whether or not there should be any minimum wage. That's a completely different discussion. The problem I think is that the minimum wage is a national number. $9-10/ hour is a good floor for a national minimum wage. It's only insufficient in particular regions that have higher costs of living. What the minimum wage should NOT be, and never was intended to be, was a wage at which someone could live independently on, especially if they have dependents. That ISN'T what it is for. Sure, cool. But you can't treat it like it's for 10 yr olds doing paper routes to collect stamps either. You've got 10 of millions of adults who gotta make their way on it.
August 12, 20214 yr 40 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Us min wage absolutely belongs in the $15/hr range. Especially when you factor in the fact inflation is already here and it won't get touched again for another 10-15 years. That's a big hike so the best way to do it would be in phases, starting at $10 and raising it up to $15 by 2028 or so. What's driving this terrible inflation? Oh yeah, it's the government printing literally trillions of dollars a year to cover the never-ending expansion of the federal bureaucracy. Rather than addressing the root cause of inflation and actually coming up with a non-suicidal, sane budget, let's just pass along the cost of the inflation we're creating to businesses and consumers! Brilliant! And the small businesses that can't cover the cost? Eff em! Let them go under. The owner and former employees can just go on welfare that's paid for by printing more money!
August 12, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, Kz! said: What's driving this terrible inflation? Oh yeah, it's the government printing literally trillions of dollars a year to cover the never-ending expansion of the federal bureaucracy. Rather than addressing the root cause of inflation and actually coming up with a non-suicidal, sane budget, let's just pass along the cost of the inflation we're creating to businesses and consumers! Brilliant! And the small businesses that can't cover the cost? Eff em! Let them go under. The owner and former employees can just go on welfare that's paid for by printing more money! Inflation is a necessary and healthy part of capitalism. If anything it has been artificially brought down by gov't because we have been moving from crisis to crisis and we are currently in a correction.
August 12, 20214 yr I feel our village idiot doesn't truly understand what inflation really is or why it happens.
August 12, 20214 yr 29 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Inflation is a necessary and healthy part of capitalism. If anything it has been artificially brought down by gov't because we have been moving from crisis to crisis and we are currently in a correction. Wow, great news! We're on pace to be really, really healthy as a country in 20 years. Just have to hope the government keeps printing trillions more than it brings in in tax revenue. 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: I feel our village idiot doesn't truly understand what inflation really is or why it happens. It's a very difficult concept to grasp. Can you explain it?
August 12, 20214 yr 54 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Sure, cool. But you can't treat it like it's for 10 yr olds doing paper routes to collect stamps either. You've got 10 of millions of adults who gotta make their way on it. Minimum wage should be a short term stop on the way to something better. If it's a career choice, choices have consequences. I'm willing to subsidize other members of our shared society up to a point. And I don't want to see levels of exploitation that we've witnessed in past periods of our history. But a nation $15/he number makes no sense.
August 12, 20214 yr When I was a kid, you could get a soda pop for a nickle. Then the ishlibs printed money and now its a dollar.
August 12, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, Boogyman said: When I was a kid, you could get a soda pop for a nickle. Then the ishlibs printed money and now its a dollar. Yes, the government spending trillions more than it brings in on a yearly basis causes inflation, you complete and utter moron. That you think inflation is some sort of difficult concept to understand is kind of incredible. That's what I get for responding to my reply guy. Lesson learned.
August 12, 20214 yr Why dont you stick your head up my butt and fight for 15 minutes of air? /Joe Dirt
August 12, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yes, the government spending trillions more than it brings in on a yearly basis causes inflation, you complete and utter moron. That you think inflation is some sort of difficult concept to understand is kind of incredible. That's what I get for responding to my reply guy. Lesson learned. Look guys, an angry idiot! Damn you are so F'ing easy. Must suck to be overly emotional and stupid at the same time.
August 12, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Minimum wage should be a short term stop on the way to something better. If it's a career choice, choices have consequences. I'm willing to subsidize other members of our shared society up to a point. And I don't want to see levels of exploitation that we've witnessed in past periods of our history. But a nation $15/he number makes no sense. Sky is falling -- watch out! I guarantee that if $15.00 was implemented nationwide tomorrow -- the world would still be rotating. Most businesses if they WANT to, would figure out how to survive. I don't know what the correct # is -- but the dire predictions of imposing a higher wage are bogus. Whenever someone is against proposed legislation they come up with all these doomsday warnings about what ifs, what will happen. Has it ever really happened that way? Literally the republicans painted the gloomiest dire picture if obamacare was passed/or not overturned. Guess what, its still here, and we are basically fine; the scare predictions of the republicans didn't play out. I'm sure the same thing would happen with $15.00. Would SOME folks get laid off - probably. Would some business go under - probably. But the vast majority would be fine. The scare tactics are BS. Sky is falling run, the world will end if the guy at mcdonalds makes $15.00/ hour. OMG. This is why nothing gets done in this country. Someone always raises BS scare predictions.
August 12, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Look guys, an angry idiot! Damn you are so F'ing easy. Must suck to be overly emotional and stupid at the same time. "I was just pretending to be retarded to get you angry!" Nice job, you pulled it off in convincing fashion.
August 12, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, Kz! said: "I was just pretending to be retarded to get you angry!" Nice job, you pulled it off in convincing fashion. I feel I owe an apology to your wife and dog for all the slaps and kicks you have thrown their way because of me. Sorry.
August 12, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Boogyman said: I feel I owe an apology to your wife and dog for all the slaps and kicks you have thrown their way because of me. Sorry. This is why you ignore this pathetic loser. Give him a tiny bit of attention and he's on your ass all day.
August 12, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, Kz! said: This is why you ignore this pathetic loser. Give him a tiny bit of attention and he's on your ass all day. Calm down. Deep breaths. Stop getting so upset over message board posts. It's a bad look.
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